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what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur
We'll start with the samsung galaxy tab because samsung is the worst of all the linux phone vendors in many ways and most of all in their hilarious lies.

To begin with Samsung won't say how many Galaxy Tabs have actually been sold.

However, they do keep repeating that over 2 million samsung galaxy tabs "shipped." Amazing! Those sales are incredible! Samsung has a real winner here...


However of course it then comes out in the wall street journal that


quote:

But during the company’s quarterly earnings call on Friday, a Samsung executive revealed those figures don’t represent actual sales to consumers. Instead, they are the number of Galaxy Tab devices that Samsung has shipped to wireless companies and retailers around the world since product’s formal introduction in late September.

Pressed by an analyst at an investment bank, the Samsung executive, Lee Young-hee, acknowledged that sales to consumers were “quite small,” though she didn’t give a specific number.


whoooops corean supremacy denied, turns out reporting numbers of units shipped to channel is just a hilarious lie

except an admission like this cannot stand, samsung represents the pride of a nation, so she delivers a correction to the wall street journal

quote:

Corrections & Amplifications

Samsung executive Lee Young-hee said Galaxy Tab sales were “quite smooth,” according to a recording of the company’s conference call with analysts. This post relied on a transcript of the call, which quoted her erroneously as saying they were “quite small.” Samsung said the transcript, done by a third party and initially cited by a company spokesman, has since been corrected.

so it now read

quote:

Pressed by an analyst at an investment bank, the Samsung executive, Lee Young-hee, acknowledged that sales to consumers were “quite smooth,” though she didn’t give a specific number.


hmmmmm.



In any case, let's move onto the returns. They're quite high. ITG, a research firm that polls retail sites, reports them as upwards of 16%. That's one in six samsung galaxy tabs returned.

Samsung wouldn't stand for this either. They returned with a proud statement that returns are around a more acceptable 2%, not that shocking 1/6 number.

Of course, as has been pointed out they are probably just reporting the returns against their hilariously inflated "shipped to channel" 2 million+ units number. So if you combine that 2% with the 16%....

quote:

What if Samsung's number is based on their distribution shipments of "2 million" units and the report numbers are based on actual sales (what stores would report). Let's assume the "under 2%" is 1.8% to give them some wiggle room.

That means 36000 returns on 2 million units. For which 36000 is 16% of 225000 units. (100/16= 6.25 x 36k = 225k)

That could mean only 225k units have actually been sold to customers, of which 36k have been returned. Or 250k if you use exactly 2% in calculation above.

Only 225-250K sold to customers. Now that's sort of a sad revelation for samsung and her proud fatherland, but there's a little wrinkle in these numbers.

Around 36,000 have been returned, let's ballpark this and say they sold 236,000, which means consumers only kept 200,000, the rest are back on the shelf (some of which are stuffed back in the box, missing the power adapter, basically a radio shack special).

That 200,000 number is interesting because it's 10% of their hyped 2,000,000. This means 90% of all Samsung Galaxy Tabs are still sitting on the shelf, unsold, because they are terrible and nobody except fishmech wants one.

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The Evan
Nov 29, 2004

Apple ][ Cash Money
gonna ship 1 to this thread

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
 

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qirex
Feb 15, 2001

people are saying OK things about the Motorola Xoom but it's probably going to be at least $100 more expensive than the iPad

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur
Next we'll do the dell streak 7


I'll just link to the engadget review because not much more needs to be said


Cheap Screen:

quote:

the Streak's 800 x 480 panel just looks cheap, and the experience is definitely felt when browsing, reading, looking at photos, or watching a high-definition clip.


(old) Phone OS without rewrites for tablet usage:

quote:

Dell's gone ahead and released the Streak 7 with Android 2.2. We're well aware that there are no Honeycomb tablets shipping yet, but there's something about the Streak that just feels rushed to market, and that experience is even more pronounced when you realize Dell didn't do anything on top of the OS to make it more tablet friendly.

quote:

On the topic of that mail app, it nor any of the other native apps, like the calendar or messaging, have been revamped to take advantage of the extra screen real estate.

This tablet has a dual core Tegra. It's almost overpowered for what it does right now, yet...

quote:

Flash performance was pretty decent -- we were able to get some of the New York Times' Flash videos playing within a few seconds of loading the site.

"pretty decent" flash performance, because "some" of the videos would play within a few seconds. Not instantly, and only some. Flash is a joke.

But wait, there's more!

quote:

Similarly, on our battery rundown test, which loops the same standard definition video with brightness set at 65 percent and WiFi on, the 2780mAh battery only lasted three hours and 26 minutes

Three hour battery life with reduced brightness.

                Battery Life
Dell Streak 7         3:26
Archos 70             6:00
Archos 101            7:20
Samsung Galaxy Tab    6:09
Apple iPad            9:33


quote:

Ironically, despite the Dell Streak 7's improved specs, it finds itself in no better place than the original Streak: it runs the same software, and while it has a larger screen, the resolution doesn't make it anymore useful. And hey, it can't even make phone calls! Yes, sadly, at the close of yet another Dell tablet review, we're left wishing the company put a little more love into what could have been a pretty great product. We're actually not even sure why the guys in Austin decided to bring the Streak 7 to market in its current form. There's no doubt that at $199.99 on contract / $450 off contract the tablet is one of the more decently priced Android slates out there, and its HSPA+ speeds make it incredibly fast, but when you combine its low-resolution screen, poor battery life, and soon-to-be outdated OS, we simply can't recommend it

quote:

(Keep in mind, we're not positive that the Tab will be upgradable to Honeycomb, so you're taking a risk there).

That's right you dumb motherfuckers this abortion of a tablet/phone/hybrid costs only $50 less than an iPad. Why would you buy this, ever?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

what is this posted:

Next we'll do the dell streak 7


I'll just link to the engadget review because not much more needs to be said


Cheap Screen:



(old) Phone OS without rewrites for tablet usage:



This tablet has a dual core Tegra. It's almost overpowered for what it does right now, yet...


"pretty decent" flash performance, because "some" of the videos would play within a few seconds. Not instantly, and only some. Flash is a joke.

But wait, there's more!


Three hour battery life with reduced brightness.

                Battery Life
Dell Streak 7         3:26
Archos 70             6:00
Archos 101            7:20
Samsung Galaxy Tab    6:09
Apple iPad            9:33




That's right you dumb motherfuckers this abortion of a tablet/phone/hybrid costs only $50 less than an iPad. Why would you buy this, ever?

$180 less than ipad+3g.


Id buy a galaxy tab if it were $200-$250.

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

qirex posted:

people are saying OK things about the Motorola Xoom but it's probably going to be at least $100 more expensive than the iPad

Motorola Xoom pricing is still not firmed up, release date is still nebulous, but the laptop dock costs $500.

You can straight up buy a laptop with Motorola Xoom specs for under $500. And load it with a horrible linux for free!

z0ratio
Feb 1, 2011

:toot:
:420::420::420::420:
THIS PEYOTE!
IT'S OVER z0rTHOUSAND!

:420::420::420::420:
:woop:

Eegah posted:

 



wanna cross her DMZ :twisted::rms:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
this is all pretty loving sad really
like seriously, the sad state of the "me too" consumer industry

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"

what is this posted:

Motorola Xoom pricing is still not firmed up, release date is still nebulous, but the laptop dock costs $500.

You can straight up buy a laptop with Motorola Xoom specs for under $500. And load it with a horrible linux for free!

Isn't the laptop dock for the atrix? (still waaaaaaaaaaaaay over priced)

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

a horrible linux

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

Don Lapre posted:

$180 less than ipad+3g.


Id buy a galaxy tab if it were $200-$250.

No, look at the base pricing here. We're not going to do a dumb checkbox feature comparison, the iPad has a bigger screen, better battery life, etc.

Just say, if you had $500, which would you buy, dinner at Ruby Tuesday's and a Dell Streak 7, or an iPad?

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

multigl posted:

Isn't the laptop dock for the atrix? (still waaaaaaaaaaaaay over priced)

Yes, in review you're correct. Hard to keep all these crazy names straight. It's like early 90s car names. Or dumb 1998 internet start up brands. "Xoom" are you kidding me?

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"
I literally have money saved to buy an iPad 2 the second it's available. Going 3G and giving my wife my current iPad.

iPad supremacy. All hail iOS.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

z0ratio posted:

wanna cross her DMZ :twisted::rms:

itd be a litteral thing too cause that chicks got more issues than a magazine stand guaranteed

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

a tablet without a tablet os with the ui gaps being filled in by samsung

it might be okay on someone else's firmware but lol this was doomed from the word go

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

what is this posted:

Yes, in review you're correct. Hard to keep all these crazy names straight. It's like early 90s car names. Or dumb 1998 internet start up brands. "Xoom" are you kidding me?

hah, I knew it, Xoom literally was a dumb internet startup

Xoom Web Hosting

quote:

Prior to its current incarnation as a money transfer company, Xoom was founded by Chris Kitze in September 1996 as a download website offering free clipart and a productivity suite including a word-processing application, centering around a word processor based on Wordstar. In March 1997, Xoom became a web hosting (offering 100MB) and an e-mail hosting website. The company acquired several small service providers in 1997 and 1998, including Paralogic, creator of ParaChat which was the largest chat network on the web at the time, and PageCount, a page counter service. The main revenue sources for the company were direct marketing via email to members and banner advertising.

The company was funded by a former Lycos executive who had previously started Creative Multimedia (Portland, OR), Aris Multimedia (Marina del Rey, CA) and Point Communications (New York, NY), and angel investors who invested a total of $10M in common stock. No venture capital was raised and the company went public in December, 1998 (ticker symbol: XMCM). Around that time, it was ranked as the 13th most popular site on the web by Media Metrix. In May 1999, a deal was announced to use Xoom.com as a vehicle for NBC's internet ventures, that combined Snap.com (owned by CNET and NBC), and various NBC internet assets plus $400M of NBC on-air promotion to form NBC Internet (NBCi). At that time, the combined entity was ranked as the 7th most popular site on the web by Media Metrix.

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur
Motorola named the Xoom after a free clipart direct marketing internet startup that had their IPO in 1998 and then flopped.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

what is this posted:

Motorola named the Xoom after some shady white people got rich and bailed.

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004

:golgo:
EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN
:golgo:
and this is why you never buy android-based hardware that isn't made by HTC

Autism Monday
Mar 18, 2005

anime comes to life and kisses me on the lips
xoom is pretty nice hardware wise but honeycomb is mad buggy even now and will be shipped with mondo bugs probably. should make for good times

BUSINESS CATTE 2.0
Dec 23, 2002

by T. Butt

Tatsujin posted:

and this is why you never buy android

ftfy

Settlers_of_Katyn
Nov 25, 2010

by Fistgrrl
the question is, why would you want an android device that isn't a phone? you also have to pay like 30-60$ a month for the 3g network coverage and noone is stupid enough to sign a 2-year contract for that since there is no necessity use. i think the ipad is worthless too, but at least they don't try to make you sign a contract for 3g.

what is this
Sep 11, 2001

it is a lemur

Settlers_of_Katyn posted:

the question is, why would you want an android device

Settlers_of_Katyn
Nov 25, 2010

by Fistgrrl
well, at least if it's a phone........



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Korean girls are hot

Autism Monday
Mar 18, 2005

anime comes to life and kisses me on the lips
i bet the sales tactic for andorod phones is basically to tell some girl or grandma that its like iphone/ipad but cheaper. then: 16% return rate

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Settlers_of_Katyn posted:

i think the ipad is worthless too

you're ghonna hate the future

Coffee Jones
Jul 4, 2004

16 bit? Back when we was kids we only got a single bit on Christmas, as a treat
And we had to share it!
Fishmech owns one.

Yakattak
Dec 17, 2009

I am Grumpypuss
>:3

yeah they suck what a big surprise

The Evan
Nov 29, 2004

Apple ][ Cash Money

Coffee Jones posted:

Fishmech owns

The Evan
Nov 29, 2004

Apple ][ Cash Money
j/k that dude is a human being

Settlers_of_Katyn
Nov 25, 2010

by Fistgrrl
newsfeed: warehouse overflows with fitted screen protectors for galaxy tablet

Settlers_of_Katyn
Nov 25, 2010

by Fistgrrl
solution: repackage as "universal" screen protectors

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
lollin

Trainbearer
Nov 5, 2005

:rms:

got dat wmd
Apr 28, 2009
Wanna see if any third party accessory manufacturers have gone bankrupt from making non apple poo poo

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003
honeycomb gonna own own own, looks like crApple's time is up... apple FTL!!

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
it's korea, they can't even spell their country right :rolleyes:x1000

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Kirk posted:

honeycomb gonna own own own, looks like crApple's time is up... apple FTL!!
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Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

haveblue posted:

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lol drat