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We are all photographers now. And being that we are all big fat photo nerds, we probably feel a burning desire to carry a camera around with us 24/7. And not just some crappy cell phone camera, neither, but a proper camera! May I introduce you, fellow pathetic photo nerd, to the 35mm point & shoot?    Yes, the 35mm point and shoot. The humble and once ubiquitous genre of cameras that are always a nice addition to a photographer's arsenal. But wait! I've already fashioned an impenetrable exosuit of Leica M7s and RZ67s!! Why do I need a chintzy goofball hipster camera?? Many of us probably already have quite respectable camera collection as is. Rare and expensive. Japanese and German. Why would we ever want to use anything else? The answer is because they are clunky and impractical. We all know the huge burden of walking around with a massive medium format camera all day. And unfortunately, as is the case in most of the world most of the time, the sun sets eventually. And no one wants to be caught at night with a huge and unwieldy medium format or expensive SLR system with the wrong film, or having to work with an antiquated flash/metering system. Heh! You're just a pathetic weakling! I carry my 16x20 around all day. I run in marathons with it. Clearly you must be a Holga user Even if you DO have a system for shooting medium/large format reliably at night, even if it doesn't bother you to carry around your body + lenses all day and night, even if you are some sort of superhuman freak who can reload his camera in seconds flat, there are distinct advantages to a cheap but solid camera:   They are less expensive, so you don't care about them as much. They are quiet, discrete, and can be hand held even on say, a roller coaster. They can be everywhere you are without anyone noticing. Real life has no patience for photography nerds. Sometimes you are at a concert and get swept up into a moshpit. Sometimes there is a brawl outside your local bar. Sometimes the cops are arresting hundreds of people in your neighborhood. Sometimes crazy poo poo happens, and you just need a solid, cheap camera that can take damage and keep on on trucking, or even be outright broken with nary a tear shed. Blah blah blah! Shut the gently caress up you Terry Richardson wannabe. We are real photographers here Haven't convinced you yet? Well, actually, some of them are actually really nice cameras believe it or not:  The Leica Minilux. Can you own a Leica camera with an 40mm f/2.4 lens for under $400? Yes, yes you can. Solid camera. I learned the hard way that it's prone to expensive shutter failures though.  The Yashica T4. The classic. Should not cost you more than $150. Even then it's overpriced. Still a loving drat good camera. Sturdy, sharpass Carl Zeiss 35mm f/3.5 lens. Very simple features. The t3 and T4 are basically the same. The T4s is weatherproofed for the ultimate in hardcore "just-try-to-break-this-camera"-ness. I had this camera for a summer and a half and I lost it in a cab and regret that to this day. Sturdy. Reliable. Beautiful. Small. Cheap. Yes, Terry Richardson uses one.  The Olympus Stylus Epic. a 35mm f/2.8 in a very-interesting looking form should not cost you any more then $60, if eBay is any indication. Easy to find, great compact little system in a cool form for the price of a new video game. And there's not even any good games out anyways. Go buy an Olympus Stylus Epic.  These have a wildly varying price. Anywhere from $250-ish to well into the upper $600s for some of the rarer/weirder limited editions and what not. The widest lens yet though, with a 28mm f/2.8, and of course, sharp and badass looking.  warning: camera porn incoming  The Contax T3. With a Sonnar 35mm f/2.8 and that insane matte black finish, this is one boner-inducing camera. Too bad it's easily $600 and up   The Minolta TC-1. Probably the weirdest looking lens I've ever seen, but also one of the best ever made for a compact. $650 for this camera is a loving bargain. Don't even bother trying to buy this one. I pretty much only put it here so we can all ogle the bizarre lens. That tiny little thing is a 28mm f/3.5!!  Alright, this one is more of a "compact 35" and less of a "point and shoot" because the lens doesn't retract. BUT it's spectacularly rare and got a nice lens and I just got on one on eBay for $200, the approximate cost of fixing my Leica Minilux's now-dead shutter!!  Anyways, long story short, while 35mm P&S were once ubiquitous and synonymous with taking pictures, much as cameraphones are now, they've fallen by the wayside but are still drat good, occasionally cheap, sturdy, reliable cameras that will round out your photographic bases quite nicely. They can be where other cameras can't. Discuss your favorite 35mm P&S here, or use this to post camera porn so good we can literally jerk off to it!! Edit: Compact 35s! So what IS the difference between a P&S and a compact 35 exactly? The definition of a quote:"Point and shoot" is "A point-and-shoot camera, also called a compact camera, is a still camera designed primarily for simple operation. Most use focus free lenses or autofocus for focusing, automatic systems for setting the exposure options, and have flash units built in." So, anything with more complex operation, such as custom exposure/aperture settings etc, with a shoe instead of a built in flash, manual winding/rewinding and manual focus/non retracting lens in a small form factor is what will hereby be referred to as a "compact 35"  The Olympus RC! Gorgeous Zuiko 2.8 lens and a sexy rangefinder, prices seem to vary wildly but I'd say if you pay anything above $80-90 you've overpaid significantly. Kind of narrow at 42mm.  Canon G-III 17! A wildly popular Canon camera from the 80s, should be incredibly easy to find, has a good meter (a spot meter, I believe) and should only run you about $20 on eBay. $40 max. f/1.7 lens!! 40mm  Yashica Electro 35CC! Another solid camera from Yashica with a f/1.8 35mm lens. Unfortunately a little harder to find and, like all Yashica 35mm's apparently, disgustingly overpriced at around $350 for the only eBay sale I could find. If you just search "Yashica Electro 35" you will find other cameras from that series but as they are not TRUE compacts I will exclude them. They're solid cheap 35mms though, around $20-50 a piece.  The Minox 35mm. A camera only a mother could love. Cheap, plastic body (all the others are metal), wretched, ugly, horrid look, but regrettably a fine lens and overall good system at around $20-40 on eBay means I should include it. Check the barf-inducing flash/body combo:   Just to make up for the Minox, check this bad boy out:  The Rollei 35! Lots of fancy knobs and doodads on the front! Steel! Only f/3.5 40mm though, and with all sorts of weird special editions floating around it may be hard to snatch a bargain. I'd say around $40-120 for this weirdo.  Petri COlor 35! Classy! Cheap ($20). Uses weird rear end batteries! That wouldn't be a problem except this one is fully automatic save for aperture/ISO knobs on top.  The dreadfully sexy voigtlander VF135. Unfortunately, I could not even find a single on on eBay. You'd probably have more luck with the VF101/general Voigtlander 35mm's (non-compacts) That's about it, folks! Some warnings for you guys firing up your PayPals and eBays: THESE ARE OLD, CRANKY CAMERAS THAT USE FUNKY BATTERIES quote:size 675 zinc-air hearing aid batteries are a direct replacement for size 675 mercury cells and that they last about two to three weeks once opened so keep a pack in your camera bag They were designed for a specific purpose (mainly to unseat the Leica CL, but other than that, to be discrete, VERY QUIET compact, sharp, fast, metal 35mms to have on you at all times). FOR MOST PEOPLE READING THIS THREAD A 35MM POINT AND SHOOT WILL SERVICE YOUR NEEDS JUST AS WELL AS, IF NOT BETTER THAN THE CAMERAS LISTED ABOVE, AND MORE RELIABLY AT THAT there is no need to buy a fancy-shmancy Russian Leica replacement with an ultrafast lens if you're presently just going to use it to take cool snapshots of your friends and such. Or if you want a simple 35mm to replace/compliment your main system. They ARE great cameras, but don't buy something you don't really need. 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That Minolta is cool as hell, goddamn. Also this should be considered as well 
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Feb 8, 2011 18:19
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I have an Olympus Stylus with the f/3.5 lens. It's fun and sharp and I got one off craigslist for $5. It does make a hell of a noise when it snaps though. Click, flash, WHHHHIIRRRR. AIIAZNSK8ER fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Feb 8, 2011 |
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Feb 8, 2011 19:20
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:I got a Yashica T2 because it was £6 in a charity shop for a camera with an f/2.8 Zeiss lens. It's great, but it stamps T-series on every photo it takes.I'd wanted a more versatile high end P&S for a while, after seeing lots of great shots taken with them on various photographers' blogs, but was sceptical about the range of shots that a P&S could satisfactorily capture. I e-mailed a lot of people, and many confirmed that the images they posted were those the camera was capable of taking rather than the full range of shots they wanted/attempted - a bit disappointing. I'm certain that a Contax T3 would do everything I ever want and solve all problems in my life, but I'm not willing to pay that much. I recently got a Leica Minilux, because I was offered it for a bargain. Just one roll through it so far; seems to do what I want. I also use a Minox 35ML, which could almost fit in this thread but uses scale focus. -- More camera porn:  
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Feb 8, 2011 19:27
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My parents had one of those olympus ones, I should see if they still have it, it seemed like a decent camera from what I remember.
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Feb 8, 2011 19:52
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Those Nikon meters seem too badass to function. I have an Olympus XA-2 that I bought for $40 at a place by my house. It's a great little camera and I tend to carry it around in my car. I load a roll of 400 tri-x in there and push it to 800 in development and the results are great. Those cameras tend to last forever unless they're badly mistreated. Props to OP for making this thread it's going to be great.
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Feb 8, 2011 19:58
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I was at my parents house some weeks ago and found a Pentax Espio 35-70mm camera, it still had some film in it and the recepit for it said it cost my mother 400 euro equivelants in 1994. so I guess my question is, should i bother hunting down a battery for the drat thing or should i just throw it as far as i can into some dank and muggy closet somewhere? Is the film still good? it's likely to be from the early 00's since that is when my mom got her first digital camera.
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Feb 8, 2011 20:40
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Erfsom posted:I was at my parents house some weeks ago and found a Pentax Espio 35-70mm camera, it still had some film in it and the recepit for it said it cost my mother 400 euro equivelants in 1994. That's a pretty respectable camera despite having a zoom lens. What batteries does it take?
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Feb 8, 2011 20:42
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:That's a pretty respectable camera despite having a zoom lens. What batteries does it take? just says lithium, the slot for it looks slightly thicker and shorter than a AA battery.
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Feb 8, 2011 20:58
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Sounds like a cr123
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Feb 8, 2011 21:03
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Yeah. That's what my Leica Minilux takes, and my Yashica T4 as well I believe. They're common as gently caress. Adorama sells them at the checkout counter.
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Feb 8, 2011 21:10
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Right-O, I am not yet a photographer, but I would like to pick it up as a hobby, and this seems to be the most appropriate thread for my question. I would normally lurk, but I really need some guidance on this one as time may be an issue, and you guy's seem to be a great resource. I have found a "Canon eos rebel k2 35mm" on craigslist for $40, it seems like a great deal, but I don't know enough about the camera, or photography in general to make a wise decision. I know it takes film, and I would have to get it developed, and that's about the extent of my knowledge. Is there anything else I should know before buying? Is this a lovely camera? Is this deal as great as I think it is? Really any thoughts at all would be appreciated.
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Ric posted:This one is more an argument against carrying a camera 24/7, or making your lifestyle choices. I think that might be a David LaChapelle image, from a series he did with assembling found snapshots. Either that or a really awkward party. Olympus XA2's forever:      cheap, pocketable, easy to operate when intoxicated or riding a bike one handed, and fairly hard to break. Also you can get a cheap flash for it. XA1's are nice and more manual but gently caress that just spin the ISO dial on the XA2 if you really care. brad industry fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Feb 9, 2011 |
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The only remotely pocketable camera I own is an Olympus RD 35 but goddamn I love it. Rangefindered, aperture prio AE (with aperture display in the finder) or all manual, 40/1.7 lens. The only downside is the battery not being made any more.
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It's not quite pocketable, but this is the job my G1 gets used for. It doesn't have a fully auto option, but it does aperture priority fast enough. The size tradeoff comes for getting to use interchangeable lenses- and brilliant ones at that..JPG)
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Feb 9, 2011 18:17
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I'm thinking of getting an Olympus Mju II with the f/2.8 lens, I think this thread has tipped me over the top.
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Feb 9, 2011 18:47
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Ugh, look at this Japan-only, awesome bullshit: Fuji Natura Black - 24mm f/1.9 lens. Samples Not Japan only, but kind of a dark horse: Konica's Hexar AF is kind of the Cadillac of 35mm P&S's - an autofocus 35mm f/2 lens that's reputedly a copy of the Leica Summacron:  Samples I used to use a Lomo LC-A as a 35mm P&S when I lived overseas, although it wasn't full auto, you had to select from one of four distance settings:  Morning Commute by ethics_gradient, on Flickr  Luke by ethics_gradient, on Flickr  Teacher by ethics_gradient, on Flickr  798 by ethics_gradient, on Flickr
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Feb 9, 2011 18:56
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How is the Hexar AF?
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Feb 9, 2011 19:20
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Rednik posted:How is the Hexar AF? Expensive 
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brad industry posted:I think that might be a David LaChapelle image, from a series he did with assembling found snapshots. Either that or a really awkward party. actually it's something I shot, but I am flattered you would confuse it for David LaChapelle! Or, alternatively, flattered you think I go to awkward parties (the best parties)
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Cosmic Charlie posted:Right-O, I am not yet a photographer, but I would like to pick it up as a hobby, and this seems to be the most appropriate thread for my question. I would normally lurk, but I really need some guidance on this one as time may be an issue, and you guy's seem to be a great resource. Also, this is a great loving deal. You should jump on that deal ASAP. That camera + a nice lens can easily cost $200 and up, so even if you just get tired of it in a few weeks and resell it, it's still a good move on your part. Also, photography is pretty much the tits. Frankly, as that camera is a rather modern SLR, you may be overwhelmed, but I learned on a Canon 30D as my first camera so you should have no trouble picking it up as long as you keep on shooting and take your camera with you everywhere. It's ironic that you would post this in a point and shoot thread as that would probably suit you much better, but go for it. dorkasaurus_rex fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 10, 2011 |
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oh man, why did this thread have to come up now, a few days after my olympus ecru was lifted off me at a club? 35mm f/3.5, silly-powerful flash, and a wacko form factor that broke the ice with anyone i wanted to shoot.  looked at replacing it, they run upwards of $400 on ebay cause they were limited edition (20k worldwide), so that's not gonna happen. fortunately they were essentially the same as the stylus epic (the ecru was the proof-of-concept that led to the epic), and those are cheaper and with a faster lens, but not as dooooooooooope.
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Gonna repost this as there's quite a few P&S there - http://kenshukan.net/john/archives/2009/12/30/travel-photography-by-photographica/     I want just about every one of these. Maybe tomorrow I'll post my collection of P&S/pocketable cameras.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Also, this is a great loving deal. You should jump on that deal ASAP. That camera + a nice lens can easily cost $200 and up, so even if you just get tired of it in a few weeks and resell it, it's still a good move on your part. Thank you so much  I really do have a lot to learn, but you gotta start somewhere right. And yeah, I just saw the 35mm in the title in the front page "Popular Threads" box, checked the dorkroom rules and here I am. Anyway, thanks again, may your pictures make powerful men say Hmmmmmmm and stroke their beards slowly.
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How is the Olympus XA not mentioned in the OP? Probably the cheapest f/2.8 available (aside from the Epic mju II). I'm working through my first roll now. Tiny and fun.
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I'm gonna go ahead and give some props to this little thing: Vivitar PN2011  Vivitar PN2011 by brionline, on Flickr (not me) I found my first one in our rural mailbox back in highschool, just sitting in there, not bundled with anything. I have no idea why it was there, but it accompanied me on a lot of field trips. Since then, I've picked up another one for 99 cents. Every thrift shop around here has several of these. Does it suck? Yes, absolutely. But it's so light and cheap that I can carry it while kayaking and not worry about destroying it. 
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Expensive I've seen it going secondhand for around $350. For what amounts to a Leica M with a permanently-affixed 35mm f/2 Summicron it doesn't look like a bad deal.
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Rednik posted:I've seen it going secondhand for around $350. For what amounts to a Leica M with a permanently-affixed 35mm f/2 Summicron it doesn't look like a bad deal. I saw that uggo one on eBay, I totally would have paid $350 for that too :-\ spf3million posted:How is the Olympus XA not mentioned in the OP? Probably the cheapest f/2.8 available (aside from the Epic mju II). I'm working through my first roll now. Tiny and fun. Because rangefinders aren't P&S's  grumblybear posted:oh man, why did this thread have to come up now, a few days after my olympus ecru was lifted off me at a club? That is pretty goofy looking. Perhaps you could fill the ECRU-shaped hole in your heart with this delightful example of 1980's design:  Plus it's a half-frame, so you can shoot with reckless abandon! I've got a FED Mikron whose selenium meter is still kickin' after all these years (lucky thing, as it's auto-only and coupled to the meter):  The downside to even a working Mikron (which is scale-focus only, not a rangefinder like it tries to masquerade as) is that the GOST dial only goes up to about the equivalent of ISO 300, so it's out for low-light. I have a roll or two of snapshots from it that I really need to get scanned and posted. Dr. Cogwerks posted:I'm gonna go ahead and give some props to this little thing: I love that kayaking shot! Beater plastic cameras are the best, when the LCA died I had no way of using the roll of precious Velvia I had been saving for a special day (was shooting everything else on the trip with print film or Sensia). I found a $5 camera in a bin at Goodwill in California and shot that roll of Velvia, then cross-processed it for good measure, which amplified the weird, lofi look (the prints are color-corrected and look a lot better):  California by ethics_gradient, on Flickr  Fire by ethics_gradient, on Flickr
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Pompous Rhombus: Not to poo poo up the thread or anything, but it wasn't on Ebay, and I can get you the link if you're interested. I saw what looked like 2 in good shape for $350 a pop. Though who knows, maybe if I sell the Bessa I might replace it with the Hexar (but probably not).
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Rednik posted:Pompous Rhombus: Not to poo poo up the thread or anything, but it wasn't on Ebay, and I can get you the link if you're interested. I saw what looked like 2 in good shape for $350 a pop. Yeah, definitely. I talked with my friend and he's interested in the Bessa, but he thinks he has to write a $1000 check to the Glider Association this week 
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Because rangefinders aren't P&S's
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:What's the story behind this photo, anyway? He looks pretty creepy.
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Mannequin posted:What's the story behind this photo, anyway? He looks pretty creepy. He was just hanging out at this party, totally naked except for shoes and shocks (go figure), not really saying or doing anything except hanging out. He rocked. edit: Leica Minilux shot btw. spf3million posted:How is the Olympus XA not mentioned in the OP? Probably the cheapest f/2.8 available (aside from the Epic mju II). I'm working through my first roll now. Tiny and fun. I already had one Olympus cam in there, but yes, the XA and XA4 are very solid cameras.
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Hey guys. So my Konica Auto S3 just came in the mail and I have to say it is one of the nicest cameras I've ever seen, let alone owned. That being said, it has no battery, and the battery it uses is banned because of mercury content. It's not unusable, but it means the excellent meter is unusable and the f/stop is left wide open at f/1.8. Can anyone help me find a 1.35V EPX-675 Mercury Battery without getting mad hatter's disease??
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Can anyone help me find a 1.35V EPX-675 Mercury Battery without getting mad hatter's disease?? http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/photographic/weincell-mrb675-z675px-px675-mr44-epx675-1-35v-zinc-air-battery
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FasterThanLight posted:This is probably the best/closest replacement available: It will work with the Konica?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Hey guys. So my Konica Auto S3 just came in the mail and I have to say it is one of the nicest cameras I've ever seen, let alone owned. That being said, it has no battery, and the battery it uses is banned because of mercury content. It's not unusable, but it means the excellent meter is unusable and the f/stop is left wide open at f/1.8. If I'm interpreting it right, Photoethnography says you can use an alkaline or silver 675 battery and it will just read a stop high. (it says "An alkaline or silver-oxide 375 battery" and "675 silver-mercury" but neither of those are real things so I assume they're typos on the theme of "675 silver-oxide")
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 it's....so nice..... (not leeching cause it's my facebook)
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:It will work with the Konica? Oh! I found a Yashica T-AF (w/ Zeiss Tessar 35/3.5) at a thrift store today. No manual controls (except ISO), and its not very compact, but I'm pretty excited to try it out.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:
It looks like a tiny version of my Minolta Hi-Matic 7sii, great little camera. I relented and got the Olympus mju II with the 35mm f/2.8, hopefully put a roll through it this weekend.
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