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oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm watching kyrgios vs raonic and lol someone should kill kyrgios please and in fact all Australians.

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Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008
the isle of misfit tennis players

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
http://www.si.com/tennis/2016/05/11/mailbag-early-french-open-storylines-retired-players-rio-olympics-tennis

quote:

As for athletes who retired too early….I suspect a lot of players watch Serena Williams and even Federer winning into their 30s and think, “I should have kept going.” John McEnroe won his last major in 1984 when he was 24. Consider: Djokovic is middle aged and turns 29 next week. A refrain you hear much more often: I wish I had been smarter about my schedule. I was recently talking about this with Martina Navratilova (he says name-droppingly). Had she known she would one day be judged almost solely on the basis of majors won, she wouldn’t have skipped the Aussie Open fourteen—14!— times.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
an amazing match is happening and this thread is silent. shameful.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
the umpire just had to tell djokovic that his string snapped.

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.
Yeah this is an excellent match. If only Nishikori wasn't injured so often, when he's 100% he's so incredibly good.

edit: Felt like a title match.

Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 22:15 on May 14, 2016

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Glare Seethe posted:

Yeah this is an excellent match. If only Nishikori wasn't injured so often, when he's 100% he's so incredibly good.

edit: Felt like a title match.

thank you op, for making a post in the tennis thread

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I stopped watching once Nadal got back on his "form". Sham sport.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Alain Post posted:

I stopped watching once Nadal got back on his "form". Sham sport.

even though i dont agree with you, i welcome your contribution to the tennis thread. thank you.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
at the moment, djokovic is getting his tiny gluten free rear end brutally pounded by "big" Andy Murray, and it's great.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

oliwan posted:

at the moment, djokovic is getting his tiny gluten free rear end brutally pounded by "big" Andy Murray, and it's great.

Double fault and an unbelievable shot finish it for the Scotch man

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

oliwan posted:

an amazing match is happening and this thread is silent. shameful.
Which match was this?

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Which match was this?

djokovic - nishikori. watch it.

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.
It's nice that the three main candidates for RG have now each won a Masters leading up to it.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

oliwan posted:

djokovic - nishikori. watch it.
Thanks!

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Glare Seethe posted:

It's nice that the three main candidates for RG have now each won a Masters leading up to it.

Roger will win it though. i believe.

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
I'd say it's a 5000 to 1 possibility.

Borachon
Jun 15, 2011

Whiskey Powered

Xabi posted:

I'd say it's a 5000 to 1 possibility.

I'd take those odds

Buddy Holly
Oct 14, 2004

I am still determined to be cheerful and happy. Run along now.
I don't care who wins it as long as it's not Djokovic.

tanglewood1420
Oct 28, 2010

The importance of this mission cannot be overemphasized
I think it would be funny if Murray were to win the French and then finally win the Australian Open next year after being runner up five times, thus beating Djokovic to the career slam.

Borachon
Jun 15, 2011

Whiskey Powered

Borachon posted:

I'd take those odds

I'll no longer take those odds. Roger just pulled out of Roland Garos.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
really sad about Roger Federer, the biggest tennis player ever.

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.

tanglewood1420 posted:

I think it would be funny if Murray were to win the French and then finally win the Australian Open next year after being runner up five times, thus beating Djokovic to the career slam.

This would be ideal.

Goosed it.
Nov 3, 2011

tanglewood1420 posted:

I think it would be funny if Murray were to win the French and then finally win the Australian Open next year after being runner up five times, thus beating Djokovic to the career slam.

Yes please. I just never want Djokovic to win the French. I know it's mean but it's how I feel :kiddo:

Buddy Holly
Oct 14, 2004

I am still determined to be cheerful and happy. Run along now.

tanglewood1420 posted:

I think it would be funny if Murray were to win the French and then finally win the Australian Open next year after being runner up five times, thus beating Djokovic to the career slam.
I will pray for this.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Roland Garros thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3776949

fancyclown
Dec 10, 2012
ITF gives Masha a 2 year ban! :captainpop:

ITF v Maria Sharapova: http://www.itftennis.com/media/231178/231178.pdf

Statement from Sharapova:

fancyclown fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jun 8, 2016

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.
That's the complete opposite of what I thought would happen. I wonder if this is 100% final or if she can still appeal.

edit: Oh yeah, she's going to appeal.

Sway Grunt fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jun 8, 2016

fancyclown
Dec 10, 2012

Glare Seethe posted:

That's the complete opposite of what I thought would happen. I wonder if this is 100% final or if she can still appeal.

edit: Oh yeah, she's going to appeal.

She will definitely appeal, I added a statement above.

ChaosReaper
Feb 19, 2005
When a man lies he murders some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?

I never liked Maria but that suspension seems like bullshit.

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Holy crap. Such nonsense.

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
Seems fair IMO.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

ChaosReaper posted:

I never liked Maria but that suspension seems like bullshit.

Seems 2 years too short

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
Mr Gaylord is correct. How is it bullshit or nonsense?


Best regards,

Mr Curious

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.
Someone on the TW forums highlighted some choice bits from the document:

quote:

The player’s case is that she did not know that the active ingredient of Mildronate, a medication which she had regularly been using for over 10 years, had been added to the Prohibited List from 1 January 2016 and she did not intentionally contravene the anti-doping rules in using Mildronate at the Australian Open. The ITF accepts that she did not know that Mildronate contained a Prohibited Substance but argues that in taking the medication she knowingly and manifestly disregarded the risk of contravening the anti-doping rules, and thus committed an intentional violation.

...

In the period from January to April 2006 Dr. Skalny sent very detailed messages to Ms Sharapova advising on her nutritional intake, including advice as to medications. The messages which have been disclosed include the following advice given in 2006 on taking Mildronate: “Mildronate 1-2 X 10, repeat in 2 wks (before training or competition)” “1 hr before competition, 2 pills of Mildronate” “During games of special importance, you can increase your Mildronate dose to 3-4 pills (1 hr before the match). However, it is necessary to consult me on all these matters (please call)” “30 minutes prior to a training session: Mildronat – 1 Capsule. 30-45 minutes prior to a tournament Mildronat 2 capsules”

...

After Ms Sharapova ceased in early 2013 to be under the care of Dr. Skalny there is no evidence that any medical practitioner was consulted about or prescribed the taking of Mildronate, or that the use of Mildronate was disclosed to any of the medical practitioners, with one exception, who were consulted by Ms Sharapova between 2012 and 2015. During this period Ms Sharapova was under the general care of her family doctor in California to whom she would go for treatment when she became sick. She also relied on the medical practitioners provided by the WTA from whom she would seek medical advice when she suffered injury or became sick in competition. She also underwent MRI scans and ECG tests and examination by a number of specialists during this period, particularly in 2015. To none of the medical practitioners or specialists who treated her over 3 years did she disclose the fact that she was taking Mildronate. Her explanation in evidence is that none of them had asked what medication she was taking 19.

...

That leaves the issue as to why Ms Sharapova was systematically using Mildronate before matches, and in particular at the Australian Open in 2016. In the tribunal’s view the answer is clear. Whatever the position may have been in 2006, there was in 2016 no diagnosis and no therapeutic advice supporting the continuing use of Mildronate. If she had believed that there was a continuing medical need to use Mildronate then she would have consulted a medical practitioner. The manner of its use, on match days and when undertaking intensive training, is only consistent with an intention to boost her energy levels. It may be that she genuinely believed that Mildronate had some general beneficial effect on her health but the manner in which the medication was taken, its concealment from the anti-doping authorities, her failure to disclose it even to her own team, and the lack of any medical justification must inevitably lead to the conclusion that she took Mildronate for the purpose of enhancing her performance.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
That's textbook doping cycle. Should definitely have been 4 years.

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
Nike announced that they will continue to work with her. I did not expect that.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Jack's Flow posted:

Nike announced that they will continue to work with her. I did not expect that.
Nike stuck through Tiger Woods' ordeal because he moves product.

Sharapova is the same.

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring

Josh Lyman posted:

Nike stuck through Tiger Woods' ordeal because he moves product.

Sharapova is the same.

Yeah. I guess I thought a sports company like Nike would draw the (hypocritical) line at doping.

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Jack's Flow posted:

Yeah. I guess I thought a sports company like Nike would draw the (hypocritical) line at doping.
I'm inclined to agree but it's not quite Lance Armstrong.

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