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Brown Moses posted:Well Russia Today decided to send Nimrod Kamer to try and interview me today, which for some reason included doorstepping my mother and filming the house she was in. Guess they've moved on from just having a go at me on RT to harassing my family. I had never heard of Russia Insider, but it looks like a wannabe Russian Fox News that was crowdfunded? But yeah...they come off a little unhinged/the type of cunts who will try to goad you into a fight on camera. This Nimrod Kamer? (lol) 
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Runaktla posted:Neat if Assad/Russia/Iran are negotiating a pretend attack against ISIS but instead both them and ISIS focus on rebels/Kurds then split up Syria between them. no this will not happen. both iran and russia have serious geopolitical, strategic and ideological reasons to want to see ISIS gone
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This is why there will be no massive attempt to stop russia and assad from defeating the rebels. From a geopolitical point of view, ISIS is a far bigger threat than Assad, and the rebels have unfortunately been hung out to dry. in 20 years, countries will be happy if ISIS was eventually neutered by Assad, Russia, the US, and the Kurds, and the fact that a bunch of rebels fighting for human rights were killed will be a footnote.
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Russia is now claiming they have reason to believe that the US has not always struck terrorist targets, and they call upon the US to focus on ISIS. 
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Oct 7, 2015 16:41
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The BBC News front page is not very flattering to the US at the moment either. The main story is "Russia launches cruise missiles against ISIS" with "MSF demands war crimes probe" directly underneath.
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This one is interesting because clearly the guy is in the middle of the fighting what with the explosions happening behind him in the background as he fires the missile.
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Lid posted:Is this where we talk about Eastern European mobsters have gotten their hands on nuclear materials and are shopping them to Islsmic State and other groups via Moldova? That article really only proves that there are a lot of morons who don't know anything about nuclear weapons trying to make them. Al-Saqr posted:So I looked up a picture of Nimrod Kramer. he looks like a cartoon character of what a paid Russian underling would look like. He looks like his name BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 16:52
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With those kinds of losses the offensive better lead to significant advances or they might as well just call it quits now and fortify around the coast. Or Putin goes all in on the quagmire.
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Oct 7, 2015 16:59
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Mackers posted:I had never heard of Russia Insider, but it looks like a wannabe Russian Fox News that was crowdfunded? But yeah...they come off a little unhinged/the type of cunts who will try to goad you into a fight on camera. Hmmn, let me google Russia Insider, I wonder what- http://russia-insider.com/en/military/where-will-isis-terrorists-try-hide-russia/ri10319  Oh.
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Anosmoman posted:With those kinds of losses the offensive better lead to significant advances or they might as well just call it quits now and fortify around the coast. Or Putin goes all in on the quagmire. Someone said it best a few months ago, that all the Iranian and Russian support in the world isn't going to resurrect dead Alawite men. Speaking of which, has anyone compiled an estimate of how much the SAA has lost since the war began?
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Al-Saqr posted:So I looked up a picture of Nimrod Kramer. he looks like a cartoon character of what a paid Russian underling would look like. He looks like an extra from Borat. 
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Oct 7, 2015 17:21
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He actually works for Russia Today, he just did this on SOHR, and I expect he planned to do the same with me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kwd-8lJUhI
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Brown Moses posted:He actually works for Russia Today, he just did this on SOHR, and I expect he planned to do the same with me "Satirist, Journalist, Comedian", not to mention mercenary ambush reporter. They attack SOHR as not being credible and send that loving guy? lmao I'd expect something similar about you though, yes...don't give him ammunition for the love of god. Edit: I honestly can't tell is this is intended to be comedy https://youtu.be/2Kwd-8lJUhI?t=69 but it had me laughing Mackers fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 17:31
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Brown Moses posted:He actually works for Russia Today, he just did this on SOHR, and I expect he planned to do the same with me what a piece of poo poo
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Yeah I will call BS. Mostly its just that Americans don't want another Iraq.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:This is why there will be no massive attempt to stop russia and assad from defeating the rebels. From a geopolitical point of view, ISIS is a far bigger threat than Assad, and the rebels have unfortunately been hung out to dry. in 20 years, countries will be happy if ISIS was eventually neutered by Assad, Russia, the US, and the Kurds, and the fact that a bunch of rebels fighting for human rights were killed will be a footnote. The sort of moderate, democratic types that we would ideally like ruling Syria never existed in sufficient numbers to have a chance at ruling/fighting the inevitable insurgency, even at the very beginning, and they especially don't exist now. Most of them are dead, have already fled the country, or have been sufficiently radicalized.
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KaptainKrunk posted:The sort of moderate, democratic types that we would ideally like ruling Syria never existed in sufficient numbers to have a chance at ruling/fighting the inevitable insurgency, even at the very beginning, and they especially don't exist now. Most of them are dead, have already fled the country, or have been sufficiently radicalized. Also, there was a concerted effort by assad to target and kill the secular democratic types, and also the gulf states made sure that the democratic types never got airtime on their channels or even a cent of cash, because a lot of them refused to be ordered around as clients. The initial makeup of the opposition who were allowed to receive money and media attention shut out anyone who didn't march to the orders of their financiers. In the end they either died off or escaped the country entirely. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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KaptainKrunk posted:The sort of moderate, democratic types that we would ideally like ruling Syria never existed in sufficient numbers to have a chance at ruling/fighting the inevitable insurgency, even at the very beginning, and they especially don't exist now. Most of them are dead, have already fled the country, or have been sufficiently radicalized. I can't imagine the US is too pleased with the nonkurd rebels anyway what with them blowing up our training program and making us look like idiots.
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ImPureAwesome posted:I can't imagine the US is too pleased with the nonkurd rebels anyway what with them blowing up our training program and making us look like idiots. plus some of them attacking the YPG, essentially i think the US will just absorb the diplomatic hit from letting Russia run wild and then work with them to further hit ISIS and then claim victory in some manner
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Russia is openly asking for a global coalition and at this point the NATO and its local allies can refuse and look cynical and not actually interested in defeating the ISIS, or accept and look like the junior partner. Either way, Lavrov is clowning his American counterpart.
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I already posted this in the Eastern Europe thread but I don't know if someone has already mentioned it here: https://www.kickstarter.com/aidrefugees?ref=hero Kickstarter, along with USA x UNHRC have started a kickstarter campaign in order to raise funds to help the refugees from the Syrian conflict. This campaign is different from the others in that when you donate it collects the money immediatly, rather than the usual way which was at the end of the funding period, and Kickstarter is waiving it's usual fees for this time as well.
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Cippalippus posted:Russia is openly asking for a global coalition and at this point the NATO and its local allies can refuse and look cynical and not actually interested in defeating the ISIS, or accept and look like the junior partner. Either way, Lavrov is clowning his American counterpart. Russia can eat poo poo. No one is going to help prop up Assad.
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Russia has asked the U.S. to identify non ISIS rebels and to point out their locations so that those areas can be excluded from bombing. The U.S. has refused. So hilarious Russia. I don't think the U.S. could have trolled so hard in our situations. We're just too serious for that. Edit: "“If there are some forces that also have weapons in their hands and are on the ground fighting, as the coalition says, with the Islamic State, and they should not be touched, then wonderful,” Ms. Zakharova said. “Give the list, give the call signs of these people. Tell us where are they located, explain why we shouldn’t be touched. Indeed, this information is not provided.” Vladimir Putin fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Cippalippus posted:Russia is openly asking for a global coalition and at this point the NATO and its local allies can refuse and look cynical and not actually interested in defeating the ISIS, or accept and look like the junior partner. Either way, Lavrov is clowning his American counterpart. lavrov is legit a very clever politician, he routinely works evil magic with the monumentally shite hands putin keeps dealing him
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In slightly better news, expect the UN to announce the Libyan peace settlement and the specifics of the unity government tonight.
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How long until we can rename TOW missiles to the "Lavrov Cocktails"?
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V. Illych L. posted:lavrov is legit a very clever politician, he routinely works evil magic with the monumentally shite hands putin keeps dealing him His performance during the whole Ukraine operation was spectacular. There are no Russian troops in Ukraine. Never!
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mobby_6kl posted:His performance during the whole Ukraine operation was spectacular. There are no Russian troops in Ukraine. Never! Well yeah, those troops are in Russia now.
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sparatuvs posted:I've lost count now If I'm not mistaken, I recognize the first logo as being one the groups that make up the Southern Front FSA. Russians haven't been doing any bombing in the south far as we know? Are these supposed to be Russian forces getting their tanks blown up? I mean the SAA getting their tanks blown up is nothing new.
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Randarkman posted:If I'm not mistaken, I recognize the first logo as being one the groups that make up the Southern Front FSA. Russians haven't been doing any bombing in the south far as we know? Are these supposed to be Russian forces getting their tanks blown up? I mean the SAA getting their tanks blown up is nothing new. All of these are supposedly from today in Hama. From these tank tactics it's safe to say these aren't Russians.
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Any territorial changes so far today? Seeing the usual pro-Assad bullshit about glourious defender of the people the SAA taking village after village with the NATO CIA Jewhadist rats fleeing before them.
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Liberal_L33t posted:is a dozen or so armoured vehicles getting destroyed really a sign that the offensive is failing or stalling? Atgm losses are pretty much unavoidable in a modern war environment for anyone who doesn't have tanks covered in super secret impenetrable bullshit armor like the US does? Besides, now that Russia is getting blatantly involved, it's not like those lost tanks and ifvs are irreplaceable. Except for the people in them and the training they had. Unless Russia has some form of magic they've held off using for the last 40 years, they will not be able to end the conflict quickly, if at all. It's about attrition, and continued losses of men and material increase the need for escalation by Russia. Meanwhile, NATO should return/maintain the focus on Ukraine and eastern Europe and make Putin choose what area he wants to emphasize, or he risks being stretched thin.
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TheRat posted:I only watched a couple of those videos, but it seemed that the crew was able to exit them and run away? Sometimes, though they are probably deafened forever.
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