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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
Is Lizzie Phelan a Trot? Only Trot cultists seem to be so passionately reality distortingly pro-Gaddafi, most of the hard anti-cap left seem to at least be able to tut tut Gaddafi before blasting Nato.

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
Ggabo, Ben Ali, Mubarak and Ghaddafi gone and Saleh & Assad facing strong resistance. What a good year.

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
Don't worry chaps, Lizzie Phelan and the VoltaireNet / GlobalResearch truther team slithered into Malta safely! Successfully running from press freedom and the end of totalitarianism like all independent journalists should.

http://www.voltairenet.org/Voltaire-Network-journalists

Edited to get rid of Mathaba vv

annatar fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Aug 30, 2011

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
The man made river thing to me just looks like a megaproject that most countries political leaderships are able to reject due to too mad, not especially sinister without actual evidence to the contrary.

lol country / contrary (1am posting blues)

annatar fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 1, 2011

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
Polls are open in Tunisia - Consituent Assembly (a kind transitional parliament & constitutional convention)

I've compiled the following lovely party primer from Tunisia Live: http://www.tunisia-live.net/ , the following poll which looks like it was the largest and latest: http://www.hss.de/fileadmin/media/downloads/Berichte/110929_Tunesien_Opinion.pdf and trusty Wikipedia.

The election is for 217 assembly seats in 27 constituencies of between 5 and 10 seats in Tunisia and 6 constituencies of 3 to 6 seats for diaspora, which means I think there is an effective if not explicit minimum vote hurdle for parties - so I'd be surprised if partys with less support than the PCOT got seats (hence not listed, also lazy). The votes are proportionally counted using the largest remainder / Hare count.

As a member of my local SI member party I'm entirely inappropriately rooting for ETTAKOL.

The Parties!
25% al Nahda - Renaissance Party
Muslim Brotherhood aligned party, look like centre-right islamic democrats

23% Coalition moderniste
- 16% PDP - Progressive Democratic Party
- 3% AT - Afek Tounes
- 2% PDM - Democratic Modernist Pole
- 2% PTT - Tunisian Labor Party
A coalition of centre-leftists secularlists that will be dominated by the PDP, ETTAKOL were involved in the negotiations but apparently stayed out of it.

14% ETTAKATOL - Democratic Forum for Labor and Liberties
Socialist International observer party, look like European social democrats (go team)

8% CPR - Congress for the Republic
More centre leftists, Moncef Marzouki the founder is a human rights lawyer type

3% Al Moubadara - The Initiative Party
3% Al Watan - Al Watan (Motherland) Party
3% Al Mustakbal - Party of the Future
These three party's are apparently headed by ex-CDR regime ministers and ambassadors. They all appear to be nationalist and very pro-business.

3% UPL - Free Patriotic Union
A vehicle for this guy - AJE article

3% PCOT - Tunisian Worker's Communist Party
The Communist Workers are apparently Hoxhaists and the largest hard left party in the election (is this the choice of LF?)

annatar fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Oct 23, 2011

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol

Pon de Bundy posted:

Gaddafi was roughly manhandled, kicked, and called a dog. This is hardly brutal treatment.

WTF, did you want him fed into a wood chipper before you deign call it brutal? He was beaten then shot in the head! The argument is about whether people should condemn his brutal treatment, not whether it was actually brutal.

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2011/10/25/tunisian-elections-live-updates-results/

Its looking like Ennahda will actually win the election and have a majority in the constitutional assembly based on them getting 45% of the popular vote and the implicit local hurdle rate (no constituency returning more than 10 delegates).

Looks like the liberals CPR (15%) and the social democrats Ettakatol (10%) will form the serious opposition if Ennahda renegs on their pre-count promise to form a unity government with both; a party called Petition Populaire / Aridha Chaabia, run by Hakimi Hamdi who the Guardian and Tunisia Live seem to be describing as a possible Berlusconi type media mogul are surpising with 10%. Pre-election polling had the old opposition PDP running second at about 16%, but they are getting wiped out.

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
What is The Problem with Ba'athism? Isn't it basically just a pan-Arab foreign policy and Arab socialism at home?

As I understand it there's nothing in the usual Ba'ath platform that means they're automatically fascists. Someone closer to the reality of Iraq please educate me :o

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Jan 14, 2007
hellol
Its really interesting to me that the Gulf absolutists think they can get on better with social democrats and islamic democrats than the current crop of autocrats.

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