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You could also just throw a couple dead cows/people in. That'd poison things up pretty good.
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This is true... but I was thinking it was easier to get dead people than cyanide at the moment, in Libya. Maybe they were dumping a truckload or something.
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Mmhm. If I were there, I'd be busily figuring out where Gadaffi was going to be sending his tanks, and pre-ranging the artillery. And waiting. And maybe sending a relief column somewhere out to the desert to hide and wait, half an hour away. Gadaffi's going to send _everything_ to raze Benghazi. Might as well make him pay for that.
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Powdered Toast Man posted:Isn't there already an American aircraft carrier in the Med? I was under the impression they kept one around in that area. France has one, too, of course. The Enterprise is within range, I believe.
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Of course, what has to be done now is that the Egyptians need to get a fatwah that voting to their best interests, not as the Muslim Brotherhood say, is the right way, according to Allah. Get it out now, fast, and before the Muslim Brotherhood cook the actual elections.
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Kenning posted:I don't think you know how fatwas work. I'm not scared of 'em, I'm just saying, the best time to counterattack is when the opponent (and these guys do appear to be the youth league's opponents) has revealed his hand and his tactics, and yet has not engaged them in the next campaign. Get 'em early. These guys have been planning this for a while, I think. Remember... who was it who said not to splinter, to form a middle of the road party, and flex your muscle with it? Listen to him. He was right. Maybe there's something more effective than a statement from a noted religious leader, saying 'no, you won't burn in hell' to counter people saying 'you'll burn in hell'. Maybe a statement saying 'The Muslim Brotherhood were lying when they said you'd burn in hell.' But that'd be a fatwah too. I dunno. All I can think of is, it's time to organize. Don't count the war over yet, Ham. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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farraday posted:"We're not Tunisia" Mohamed Bouazizi, Time Man of the Year, 2011. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2043557,00.html
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Shageletic posted:I see the lack of regime change talk as putting a line in the sand. The US will not pour all of its resources in overthrowing Ghaddafi. We'll help the Libyans with air strikes, but its up to them to do it. That, and saying 'Look, G, man. We ain't actively trying to kill you. You want to leave? We'll help you leave. C'mon, get out.'
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Jenzar El posted:(because terrorism has been removed from the liberal dictionary) The first two statements are so incredibly... messed up that they bear repeating. The last statement makes me wonder who you are claiming as colleagues. Do you, personally, do this, or did you copy it from somewhere else? If it wasn't for the French, we'd be speaking English right now! Jenzar El posted:Believe it or not. ORIGINAL THOUGHT! It's not very original, really.
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t3ch3 posted:This would be a good opportunity for the United States to take the high road and sign and ratify the Ottawa Treaty. Can't do it. Land mines are a critical part of the US defense of South Korea. Only place in the world they are, but they are incredibly essential there.
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Welp. One way to get battle hardened troops is to throw them into battle. It kills off the less able ones. Rebellions take time, generally. Let's not count everything out yet.
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The CIA has a long history of exaggerating their failures, especially domestically. I know a little bit about them, from friends of family, and from just general history, memory and observation, and while everything in, for example, Legacy of Ashes, was completely true, I noted that certain successes were completely ignored. Not mentioned at all. This does not make them any more competent, it just points out that if you read their publicity, you will view them as complete failures.
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A Winner is Jew posted:
The real and original job of the Central Intelligence Agency was to provide the President the world's best newspaper. This is something that should not be forgotten. A problem with the organization is that it is schizophrenic, the operations side has turf battles with the intelligence side, and, historically, has been run by goofy-rear end cowboys. But their assessments, provided they do not get unduly biased by the operatives personal opinions, which they might, should be pretty good.
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Chortles posted:
There's also the well known issue of the recent over-Mormonation of the agency. Mormons are patriotic, honest, reliable, and they can be found speaking many rare languages. Sadly, they are also prone to groupthink and a certain, how shall I say it, not lack of creative thinking, exactly, but certainly inside-the-box tendencies. This has created a good amount of uniform perspective at the Agency, which isn't really the best thing. (Of course, I'm just zis person on the internet, don't take my word for it, etcetera.)
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I have the feeling there are more trained soldiers than the few that just showed up. This is just the first graduating class. And the longer it goes, the more trained soldiers will show up. The longer the stalemate goes, the better the chances the Rebels have. At the moment.
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Huh. New avatar, Ham? This is good news. I was very concerned that the NDP might get voted back into office. The devil you know, after all. It's not uncommon, as I seem to recall from both Germany post WWII and Iraq: after a period like that, they're the only people who know how to run things. On the other hand, well, you have to watch out for the Neo-NDP reforming, and you still have the Muslim Brotherhood to watch out for. I hope that you guys are forming a strong central party of your own.
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Building to the southwest with threats toward the west looks like the way to go to me. The first reasonably trained troops should be graduating from training about now-ish, which means we're going to see some actual military skills and possible use of armor on the Free side. Threaten towards the west... it might work. It probably won't, but it'll cause stress for the Quad armies. Then bull through on the southwest, where the armies should be overstressed as it is. Best way to leverage NATO, best way to make Quad destroy his own armies.
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quote:Iran's parliament voted on Wednesday in favor of taking Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to court over what lawmakers say is a violation of the country's constitution stemming from the president's move last month to declare himself caretaker oil minister. So, we got that happening. No word on the witchcraft.
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Interesting side note on the Palestinian charge the other day. The land mines set off by the molotov cocktails the protesters threw, were on the Syrian side of the border. Presumably, therefore, they were Syrian. Is Syria a signatory to the anti-landmines treaty?
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Do we have any estimates on what G's forces were like at the beginning of the conflict? How many tanks can he have left?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8611199/Sudanese-army-seizes-southern-Libyan-town.html What's this about the Sudanese invading Kufra? That's a 400 mile incursion, and apparently an important city, strategically. Can we get a confirmation on this?
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Hm. Someone wrote an article on the government growing up in Libya. It's temporary, but... well, looks good. http://www.peacefare.net/?p=3912 quote:
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And the rubble is bouncing in Waddan.
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Watch the south.
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Now, if Khamis was present, forget if he's dead or not, but if he was present, this means that Ziltan is where the elite troops are. Brega's probably a hollow shell with a shitload of mines. How many elite troops can there be?
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7687163.html Here's an article. Money quote: King Abdullah also said that Riyadh does not accept what is happening in Syria, according to the statement read out on the pan Arab Al Arabiya network late Sunday. The monarch also said the Syrian government crackdown on protesters is disproportionate.
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Indeed. And once people stop paying attention to it, and funneling money to it, once people stop being able to profit off it, maybe then something can get done.
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And this last page is why I think Kane et al are wise to keep the I/P issue out of their protests. It just generates heat and noise. And there are a lot of people with vested interests in using it to do so, both in and outside Israel. For example, everyone remembers the recent Syrian assault on the border wall, and the resulting deaths, which was pretty blatantly planned as a way to distract people from what was going on inside Syria. The I/P issue will be dealt when when the current people are out of power. Work on that, because people can do that. What they can't do is change Likud's minds. Work with what you can change. Remember what you can't. Stay practical, but never let practicality destroy the path built by your ideals. Build a future, Kane. Do your best. One day, there will be peace in the middle east. It is not impossible.
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When did the rebels get Brega refinery? Or is it just unusable?
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So it's completely useless, then. Excepting if they can persuade people to leave Gaddafi and join with them. Cause the only person who has the power is Gadaffi. He was very careful to arrange it so all things come from him.
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Seriously, what the gently caress, Egypt? Ham, what's going on?
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Lemme rephrase this: How do Egyptians feel about Israel chasing militants after they kill people in Israel? http://news.yahoo.com/armed-men-cross-egyptian-border-kill-8-israelis-202922741.html Decent article. Looks like the Iron Dome antimissile system works. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Aug 19, 2011 |
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Ham posted:As a result of the Egyptian soldiers Israel "accidentally" killed: ... well, and the guerrilla's fault. Darn it, the only way to settle this thing is to establish peace. And, admittedly, for an entirely new Israeli cabinet.
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http://www.voltairenet.org/Libya-NATO-massacre-of-Zliten I have a crazy 'all America does is wrong' guy waving this article in my face. Is there any substance to it? (Warning: site is owned by a french guy who thinks 9/11 was done by Americans, wrote a book about it.) Edit: Yes, we do. Non-HAMAS aligned terrorist group. Wait. No. Er. Hm. Well, Israel is saying HAMAS is responsible. Which they are: it came from their territory. As a governing body, they are responsible. But as far as who actually did it? http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j6DgnhuB4vzCrNbwtiToydxj6AVA?docId=CNG.06f34de0123171e0730efd83bf61c8c3.261 Here we go. quote:Among those claiming responsibility for the rocket attacks, was the Popular Resistance Committees, a radical militant group blamed by Israel for the killing of eight Israelis near the Egyptian border on Thursday. I've got to say this is doing nothing good for the Palestinian approach to the UN. Which may be why it happened. Some people don't want the fighting to end. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Aug 20, 2011 |
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MothraAttack posted:BBC says that probably about 30 people were killed, mostly men, but that the reality of what happened remains a bit vague. Civilians were injured and most likely some died, though. Thank you very much for finding this.
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I remember fondly one of my social studies textbooks in junior high that stated that Mussolini resigned from his post. This is _technically true_.
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Brown Moses posted:This Economist article is a great primer for understanding the structure of NTC and it's military. Kind of reminds me of how the American rebel army was structured ca 1776.
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Cable Guy posted:Mmmmmm... I forget my site admin days in detail. You might be able to request a SQL dump from webspace admin for your posts in this thread that have a link (maybe using using "http://" as a filter). That would come in database table form. You'd need to talk to Radium's replacement for that I guess. As a mod, you might be able to talk to Senor Lowtax or EPG about arranging that. You might be able to do it across all posts, but you'd be getting redundant ones like my suck eggs link.
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Brown Moses, with just a little work, you could, no lies, write a NY Times Bestseller List style book from this. You've got as close to the inside story as anyone, and you could probably figure out who to interview further.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-obamas-war-room-20111013?print=true A very, very long article on Obama's decision making on Libya. Apparently he did tell Congress to go screw.
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