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New Division posted:I wonder what Freepers think of the prominent French role. I know they can't be fond of anyone stealing the U.S.'s thunder in a conflict. I think Freepers nowadays will always err of the side of hating the president. Also Freepers don't really "think", so don't bother wondering.
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I'm curious what further sanctions can the west impose on Syria.
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Don't be too sure. If the rebels can negotiate an exit for Gaddafi and the removal of his government while sparing Tripoli from being reduced to rubble I think they'll take it.
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Aug 18, 2011 15:55
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The-Mole posted:Out of curiosity, how do you accidentally kill 5 soldiers in another countries territory? It's not like there's a big line across the desert that says ISRAEL on one side and EGYPT on the other. They were probably pursuing some guys from the air near the border, lost them, spotted the Egyptians and lit them up. Pretty sloppy, but the Israelis don't dwell on details when they're conducting punitive actions after terror attacks on their soil.
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Aug 19, 2011 16:44
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Nombres posted:Give me ideological purity or give other people I don't know horrible, painful and avoidable death! Fixed that for you
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Aug 22, 2011 00:22
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I wonder if there is a threat from Zuwarah. From the map it looks like a city that can still get resupply from Tunisia and now that the rebels are moving in on Tripoli it's in their rear. I also wonder what the NATO air cover for along the road from there to Sabratha is like. I would imagine it's not very safe to drive in long convoys on that stretch.
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Aug 22, 2011 14:09
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Chuck Boone posted:I didn't know RT was such a joke. RT is an organ of Vladimir Putin's government. Putin, ever the cold warrior, hates NATO. Hence the enemy of NATO is a friend of Putin and therefore RT reports anything favorable towards it that it can even if it has to make it up. Putin truly lives like it's 1983 and he's the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Haha... NATO is dropping "sound bombs".
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Aug 22, 2011 15:06
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Xandu posted:Try this maybe http://democratist.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/a-star-is-born/ Lizzie Phelan posted:a world where people are collectively in control of their own destinies. This makes no sense. If everyone else has a say in an individual's destiny the individual isn't in control of their own destiny, are they? If she's going to pine for a Communist utopia she really has to drop the pretense of caring about the individual.
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Aug 22, 2011 18:43
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Can't get enough of RT 'Western countries fighting for Libya’s oil fields like piranhas' Russia is very concerned that Libya will be exploited by the west now that with Gaddafi's downfall they've lost the opportunity to be exploited by Russia. Also the article is pretty much just a bunch of quotes from this guy.
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Aug 22, 2011 20:46
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Brown Moses posted:Lizzie Phelan will be using this as evidence of a huge plot in her next report to Russia Today. Speaking of http://libya360.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/lizzie-phelan-report-from-tripoli-august-22-2011/ Lizzie Phelan posted:I have now from RELIABLE sources that the Libyan army is still in control of Tripoli. Al J footage of Green Sq was FAKE. Gaddafi went to Green Sq with one of his sons. Things much calmer now. More info soon. – L.P. She's still on the "this was all a planned trap to bring those RATS into the city for their final annihilation!" trip. Hehe... in the comments Danijela Dorado posted:I hope it’s not a lie… I wouldn't bet money on that, Danijela Dorado.
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Aug 23, 2011 15:44
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quote:Special forces from Britain, France, Jordan, Qatar on ground in Libya stepped up operations in Tripoli n other cities - NATO official Lizzie was right! This is obviously just the beginning of the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization's efforts to occupy and enslave all of North Africa!
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Aug 24, 2011 15:01
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Brown Moses posted:That really will make Gaddafi worried. It's easier said than done. Imagine you're some member of the Gaddafi inner circle with a lot of blood on his hands that you'd like to wash off, preferably using huge stacks of $100 bills. How would you kill him in a way that's both verifiable and doesn't result in you getting killed in return by the other members of the inner circle? You'd have to have a lot of people very loyal to you pulling the trigger, and I doubt that they'd do it just to save your skin in a post Gaddafi Libya.
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brylcreem posted:I am so confused by Lizzie Cocker/Phelan. Really is it much of a surprise? http://www.theonion.com/articles/totally-hot-chick-also-way-psycho,684/
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Besesoth posted:RIP, what was left of Lizzie Phelan's credibility. When did she ever have credibility?
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Furious Mittens posted:RT is one of those places that make me question my own primarily leftist ideology from time to time. RT is not "leftist" unless your definition of leftist is "against whatever the US/Europe/NATO are doing."
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Aug 24, 2011 18:00
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quote:A DVD with gay porn entitled “Boyz Tracks” slipped out of the stack of documents. It would seem that Man-Love Thursdays were alive and well at the Gaddafi compound.
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Aug 25, 2011 14:46
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Haha RT.... Before NATO intrusion, Libya was African Switzerland
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Aug 25, 2011 15:04
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Fangz posted:I like Libya360 for the complex web of conspiracies they draw up. Now Russia Today is part of the conspiracy! Looking glass, people!
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Aug 26, 2011 18:07
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Kucinich is of the part of the left that considers any military action, no matter the reason, is wrong - a "Peace At Any Cost" type. He'll work with a dictator if it means he might help prevent open conflict and the violence that comes with it, but it also means that he's tacitly OK with the violence that dictator inflicts in private. I guess it's just a matter of perspective. Also his wife is super hot.
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Aug 31, 2011 20:42
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Jut posted:It's the kind of project that only a dictatorship could build (see Dubai's towers and artificial islands, Romania's People's Palace, Germany's autobahns etc...) My favorites http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel
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pistolshit posted:None of which required a dictatorship. Yes but they also required a lot more time, planning and oversight before the decision was made to build them. It's not the scale of a project that makes it something only a dictatorship can make happen - it's the reasons for doing it and the type of sacrifices that are made to implement it that distinguish the two.
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Sep 1, 2011 16:56
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Here's a head scratcher. Rebels found a deep freezer that apparently contained the dead body of a Russian (maybe?) soldier or something that was stuffed in there by GF. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9bf_1314884266
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Oh Lizzie! How I've missed you and your shenanigans!Our Girl Lizzie posted:She was one of the many who warned me to keep my head down and get out as soon as possible. I had been one of the few reporters that focused on the effects of NATO's bombing campaign in the country and had tried to highlight the million marches and mass tribal conferences in favour of the Libyan government that indicated it was not quite as unpopular within Libya as it had been portrayed to be. Actually, Lizzie, lots of people have reported on the effects of the NATO bombing campaign. And what were those effects? It soon became very difficult for Gaddafi to mount large scale mechanized attacks or concentrate large amounts of men and matériel without it being identified and obliterated. I don't think that's hidden knowledge. And I do remember you reporting on those millions of people marching in support of Gaddafi and the tribes and their efforts to rush to Tripoli in order to defend the great leader... from your hotel room. Remember how all your statements started with phrases like "I have been told that..." or "Reliable sources have given me word that..."? That's some pretty tight journalism there, kid. Good work.
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Ace Oliveira posted:It's like a mad minute, everybody's unloading all at once. That seems to be the Arab way of war. Over the last ten years I've seen innumerable pieces of footage that feature a motley group of dudes with AKs crowded around the corner of a mud brick wall taking turns unloading whatever weapon they have in the general direction of the enemy. Concepts of coordinated fire teams and maneuvering under a base of fire are alien concepts in that part of the world.
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An interesting take on how ISIL operates militarily http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/shock-and-awe
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