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Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Radio! posted:

Anyone else watch that interview with the UK advisor on Bahrain just now?

He was saying that the protesters are "malcontents" and a "vociferous minority" who want to change Bahrain away from being a tolerant nation and are basically ruining it for the rest of the Bahrainis.

Got to justify selling them more weapons somehow!

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Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Reason posted:

So here's a weird idea as far as the internet's and anonymous' role in these things. We know that governments spread misinformation when there is unrest to try and quell the uprisings, but how how effective would spreading counter-misinformation be? Stuff like claiming that a government is near the breaking point, or that military leadership is starting to have inner conflict. It seems that a group like Anonymous could find a way to spread information like this quickly and have it sound somewhat reliable. I feel like if it were an effective thing, it might give protesters in the areas more hope and cause them to continue fighting when they would otherwise give up.

Surely with Twitter and the like, there's no need for this? Anonymous isn't going to be a lot of use compared with a shitload of tweets, posts etc in the language all of the protesters will speak.

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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AA is for Quitters posted:

This is actually really awesome to watch. Not the death, or the terror, or the horrible conditions these people faced to make them revolt, but rather the idea that people my age are actively changing the world.

how does it feel to know you will never take part in something to momentous?

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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AA is for Quitters posted:

If obama loses to a tea-party type in 2012, we just may.

But really, I don't care that I'll never get the chance to participate in something like this. What I care about is how little coverage this is getting in the US. I mentioned what was going on at work, and everyone just went "wat?". It's not getting mentioned in their schools, it's not getting mentioned on the news, it's not getting mentioned period beyond a little footnote, or page filler in the middle of the paper.

Wait, seriously? It's front page news in the UK, all over the TV news too. How can it just not get reported over there?

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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AA is for Quitters posted:

1) I live in a red state in the midwest. Most of the people here think the entire middle east is full of "terrists" and the entire region should be carpet-bombed.

2) Most people here don't care about what is going on beyond their own lives. Their idea of current events is what TMZ is reporting.

And it makes me sad that this is what America is like, and that anyone that tries to change this is met with the wall that is the anti-intellectualism that the sterotypical american personifies.

That's really sad, and more than slightly worrying. :ohdear:

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Live ammunition used in Bahrain, ambulance drivers and head of the ambulance service arrested, hospitals full, do they honestly think any of this poo poo is going to break the protests up?

fakedit: They are opening fire on protesters from helicopters. What the gently caress.

(all from AJE, talking to an MP and a doctor. The doctor is literally begging for help.)

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Narmi posted:

Wahat are the odds that the UN gets involved in Bahrain? Bahrain is a member state, and they've already condemned the violence against protesters, but I haven't heard of any action taken other than that.

They'd have to get things through the security council to do anything more, wouldn't they? I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Cull posted:

I know I'm being ridiculous but I would love it some 5th Fleet commander went rogue and drove a triage boat straight the gently caress in there to take on casualties.

I think we all would.

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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mattdizzleZ28 posted:

:( but i've waited so long for F1 to start up again.... Cant freedom wait until april!?

It doesn't really start till Australia anyway.

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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ganglysumbia posted:

Libya is out of control, flat out massacres...

I thought the Libyan military was not very loyal to Gaddafi. Why is a Egypt type scenario not playing out with the Army preventing a slaughter?







Summertime in the States is going to interesting...

I heard rumours about that happening yesterday, I don't think anything came of it though.

as for Tripoli, there are reports on twitter of protests there too, but I don't know if those can actually be trusted.

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Brown Moses posted:

Some slightly weird news:

Apparently they don't know why the fighter jets have landed, could be air force pilots fleeing the country.

Also it sounds like they've cut off the mobile networks in Tripoli, and only some landlines are working.

Could be escorts for the helicopters too...

[speculation]Maybe it's CQ?[/speculation]

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Xandu posted:


We also don't know what the UN is going to do tomorrow.

Little of use while there is still so much money tied up in oil contracts over there.



Saw this earlier. the UK is advising British nationals to get out of Bahrain and has gone as far as chartering flights to get them out. They don't seem to like doing that last part, and I doubt there the only ones doing this.

HJE-Cobra, I hope you get out of there in one piece. :ohdear:

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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quote:

He says this is the first time defecting army units have faced government forces

Someone said it earlier, but have things up to now just been a feint to overstretch gadaffi's supply lines or something? Or has it just been the more overenthusiastic rebels running around with AKs, and these guys just waiting? I'm confused.

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Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

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Simtex posted:

The French are talking about wanting to take action "hours" after the UN Resolution (assuming it's passed). That's pretty clear translation that significant assets have been put in place. NATO was probably getting everything together over the past week "just in case".

Not to mention that the Med isn't that big to begin with, just have to do multiple refuelings.

Kosovo & Iraq both had bombing missions flown by B-2's basing out of the US that took 30+ hours roundtrip.

There was something on AJE a week or two ago saying there are British planes in Cyprus that could be in Libyan airspace in about half an hour. Anyone know where the nearest French bases are?

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