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My biggest concern with areas like Syria is that the outside world won't do enough to stop Assad, and the people will be repessed even more. I know we can't just throw up a no-fly zone or justify it for that matter at a moments notice, especially with Syria's ties to Iran, but everybody knows sanctions against officals aren't going to stop a tyrannical dictator from murdering his own people. It seems more and more likely that violence is the only answer, which is just depressing.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2011 09:54 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:09 |
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AllanGordon posted:How can anyone believe the claims of reform from someone who ordered his soldiers to fire on peaceful protestors. He's an idiot, as are all people who support dictators. Simple as that.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2011 09:23 |
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Just found this on Al Jazeera:quote:"One member of Syria’s secret police - referred to locally as mukhabarat - told HRW he was deployed in Homs, Syria’s third largest city, on April 19, to help security forces violently disperse tens of thousands of protesters staging a sit-in in the central Clock Tower Square. From here: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/07/201179132942963909.html God I hope Assad fucks off.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 23:47 |
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Here's hoping the Rebels have managed to take Brega. It'll do absolute wonders for morale, and will probably cause Gaddafi troops to lose even more hope.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2011 18:11 |
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pylb posted:Here's a pro-Gaddafi video about Brega still being under his control, though I couldn't understand anything said. It is supposed to be from yesterday, though I don't know if there's any way to verify that. I really have to wonder if those commenters are one or two people with accounts or if they're legitimately brainwashed by Gadaffi.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 15:12 |
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Has anybody heard anything about the lesser reported areas, such as Morocco, Algeria, Bahrain, and so on? Last I heard the whole Middle Eastern movement failed to kick off in Algeria, Morocco has daily protests and Bahrain, I really have no idea since the crackdown began.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2011 15:54 |
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suboptimal posted:Algeria: Never really got off the ground after some fairly large demonstrations after Ben Ali and Mubarak fell. Now, anytime anyone goes out to protest, security forces usually beat/arrest the lot of them. Anti-government sentiment seems to be at a low boil, but not really in danger of flaring up. Ah, thanks for the fast response! Shame about Algeria and Bahrain, really. I'm hoping when Gaddafi is arrested, Egypt/Tunisia manages to elect a president and whether Assad and/or Saleh get out and so on it'll kick up some dust around the Middle East again extending the protests.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2011 16:45 |
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To me it seems like Gadaffi supporters shot him the same way they shot up the Al Jazeera reporter while he was on the way to the trial. This poo poo isn't good, but I'm hoping that the rebels can pull through and that there's enough commanders to replace Younis and continue the push.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2011 05:40 |
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Jut posted:But where is the body?!? Something smells fishy here. I'm just desperately hoping whatever is up doesn't ruin the entire rebellion and let Gaddafi take back ground. Last thing I want to be reading in 10 years is alternate senarios if General Younis wasn't killed and the Rebels didn't lose.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2011 06:34 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:Seems pretty obvious to me it was an internal power struggle. You don't just arrest and execute someone that high up on suspicion of betrayal. And then they flat out lied about what happened. Regardless, this whole situation seems suspicious as gently caress
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2011 07:18 |
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Away from Libya, apparently Islamists took over the Tahrir protests and the Liberal parties have pulled out from it. Not looking good, it seems.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2011 18:10 |
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I'm beginning to worry about how long the Arab Spring will last for. I'm really hoping some major poo poo happens soon to boost spirits around the Arab world, because the last thing I want to see is the Arab Spring slowly whimper away. I don't think it will though, not with all the dead martyrs and all the progress that's been made across the Middle East
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 04:29 |
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According to Al Jazeera, Khamis Gaddafi has been killed by NATO http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/08/20118575531382740.html Great news if it's true, considering he leads and commands one of the most feared brigades in Libya Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Aug 5, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 5, 2011 10:17 |
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Anybody with an hour to spare should watch this. http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/2011/08/201184144547798162.html With every inch of my body I hope protests can start again, and I hope that they can succeed. Does anybody know what's happening in Bahrain? I'm genuinely worried about the quiet. Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Aug 6, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 6, 2011 02:57 |
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What's the status of the Arab Spring as a whole? I'm hearing more and more news from Libya and Syria, but not really anywhere else. If these governments fall, will protests explode up again like after Egypt? I'm also hoping the Israeli protests begins to ask for Palestinian independance, or some other form of Israeli-Palestinian independance. I don't know if that would improve the opinion of Israel for Arabs, but at least Palestine would finally have their freedom.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2011 03:21 |
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Botany As Optimism posted:http://mod.gov.sy/ Here's hoping they hit more Syrian sites. Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Aug 8, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 8, 2011 06:18 |
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Seems like the site is down for me. Great while it lasted.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2011 08:19 |
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Brown Moses posted:More from Zeina Khodr of AJE from the western front: Amazing news if Gharyan and Zawiyah are almost in control of the Rebels. It shows you how much the Gadaffi military has fallen apart, and how little time Gadaffi has left. Do you think when Gadaffi is eventually captured/killed, it will spur up new revolts around the Middle East?
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2011 01:20 |
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DropsySufferer posted:Finally, this is getting close, it's been a deadlock for months. Absolutely fantastic job on this thread, Brown Moses. I can't see the rebels taking Tripoli, unless they have some serious heavy NATO support in the attack. Even then, I can't see a full scale rebel attack on a heavily guarded city having success unless the population inside Tripoli revolts or the Gadaffi army surrenders. They'll probably go around Tripoli and secure the rest of Libya, then surround Tripoli after the fronts are all connected up and then I have no idea what will happen.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2011 15:05 |
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And away from Libya, Mubarak trial moved to next month, and live TV coverage is ending according to Al Jazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/08/201181513582176372.html
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2011 17:35 |
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DonBalle posted:.. and we have Brown Moses especially to thank for that, somebody really should buy that man a beer. A case of beer, more like it.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2011 09:53 |
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Sivias posted:Associated Press reporting that Israel is appologizing for the incident and launching a joint investigation with Egypt. Deeply regretting Egyptians deaths while bombing the gently caress out of Gaza. Stay classy Israel.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2011 16:14 |
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Holy poo poo it's happening, I wonder if the Rebels will charge into Tripoli now.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2011 22:23 |
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http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/g...DAwLmpwZw%3d%3d Describes the "Everything is under control" propaganda pretty well.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2011 22:41 |
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If Gadaffi has fled, shows you his true colours. Can't even live up to his own bullshit about fighting to the last man. Soon as Tripoli comes under revolt, Gadaffi's the first one out.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2011 22:53 |
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So this is what it's come down to. Gaddafi rambling about roads.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 00:43 |
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I cannot loving wait for "REBELS LIBERATE TRIPOLI" coming up on the news. I think I'll start cheering and celebrating myself.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 20:27 |
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Anybody have a map that's up to date, or would the Wikipedia map suffice?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 20:37 |
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I'm going to wear my key out because of this thread.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:04 |
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Lawman 0 posted:buddy me too. drat you Brown Moses and your CIA information!
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:10 |
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What do you think the Rebels will rename Green Square and most of Libya now? I'm sure they're keen to get rid of everything that shows signs of Gaddafi rule.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:23 |
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Darth Brooks posted:Isn't there an add on for Firefox that will update threads as they are being posted in? I had a look on Greasemonkey, didn't find anything, but it doesn't matter. What does matter is Tripoli is rapidly falling, Gaddafi is going to be captured if not killed, and Libya is entering a new era of freedom.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:36 |
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Toplowtech posted:Imagine World War 2 covered by a modern news network. "German forces still in a stalemate in Poland after two weeks of fighting". You think modern news would actually report on WW2 over celebrities and "local" news?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:52 |
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Goodbye Libya, Hello Syria
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 21:58 |
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A unnamed civillian from Tripoli just went on the AJE live stream and said "You can name me, I'm not afraid anymore." He then spelled out his name.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:06 |
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boner meter posted:That guy desperately and proudly trying to get his name out on AJ English was quite funny/heartening. I'm surprised how much that affected me. I hope that guy survives, what a great dude. Oh man I can't stop smiling at the crowd going nuts over the fireworks. This is such a great day for Libya.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:10 |
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Would be funny if Rebels entered the room Moussa is in while he's saying Gaddafi is victorious.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:13 |
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He's just pussy footing around because he knows he's utterly hosed.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:15 |
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You know he's hosed when he's begging for help and saying Tripoli is being destroyed.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:17 |
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He says he's ready for talks only when his end is imminent in the next day.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 22:19 |