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Bashir not running. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12521427 Not sure how related it is as I don't think we have heard too much about any current Sudan unrest itt. Just wanted to make a meager contribution.
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| # ¿ Feb 21, 2011 08:37 |
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| # ¿ May 25, 2013 19:27 |
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I wish some country- ANY country would at least provide some air support for the protesters... at least in obvious situations like a pickup truck full of fucks firing at crowds of civies they get a hellfire missle from a chopper. Probably not going to happen though.ChaosSamusX posted:What the hell is this? Some sort of 'If I can't have it, nobody can' mentality from a crushed half-insane dictator? Hitler tried the same poo poo at the end, ordering scorched earth tactics on his country. Most of these orders were ignored.
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| # ¿ Feb 21, 2011 16:47 |
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Cartouche posted:Your stated feeling about it makes me harken back to Somalia, when we were unable (not allowed) to fire on militants who were firing on crowds trying to get food from aid workers. IIRC, a country going in all rambo on another country (like it or not) is frowned upon. I was thinking more of friendly neighborly help from regional governments... but I wonder if the US/EU did some limited things just to keep it from being wholesale slaughter if anyone would really begrudge it when the dust settles... I guess I am just tired of the US feeling the need to back the wrong horse. On your other point, I work at a NBC local affiliate. For Egypt we did a lot of on air coverage considering we are a local station in low 100's for market size. I think part of why there is not too much on air stuff for Libya is the difficulty in getting anything confirmed, also its been the weekend and even national weekend coverage can be lacking. Also it about brown people.  PS- my new desktop at work is that photo someone posted of the christian/muslim human chain protection quid pro quo. Although probably everyone walking by will think its something with gay arabs cuz why else would dudes hold hands. 
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| # ¿ Feb 21, 2011 17:15 |
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Brown Moses posted:Gaddafi Interview Definitely crazy... maybe someone will in his inner circle will blow him away soon.
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| # ¿ Mar 9, 2011 10:47 |
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I wonder if all of the unease of Libyan reaction to civilian casualties from a NFZ are somewhat overblown. They are going to see the results of CQ's human shield bullshit up close after all, and will possibly inflict far more accidental civilian casualties themselves, especially if the fight drags on to urban areas. Reminds me of the first friendly fire incident incident in Afghanistan: A US airstrike was timed wrong and I forget the number but I think a dozen or so Northern Alliance troops were killed. The Special Forces officer who had to tell their commander was afraid of what the reaction would be, but the Alliance leader basically shrugged and said "These things happen." I think the super angry reactions we think of are more from stuff like that Apache gunship video with killing of random dudes trying to rescue the other random dudes the chopper shot up. As long as the west doesn't send in thousands of troops or carpet bomb western Libya I don't think the Libyans will lose ownership of the revolution in the eyes of anyone, either. Ideally the Europeans who armed CQ as of late and the neighboring Arab states will provide air interdiction over rebel held territory. I almost think they should do limited air strikes, with super-stringent rule of engagement: "Hey rebels, is that column of t-72s heading from Tripoli to Sirte in the open desert yours?" "Definitely not." "Cool, didn't think so." *erases column from face of Earth* So basically never near friendlies/civilians, keeping CQ from moving anything east that is obviously military.
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| # ¿ Mar 11, 2011 12:42 |
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Lascivious Sloth posted:On the other hand.. what the hell are you talking about? The only thing stopping a NFZ is the joke of a UN that has Russia and China, authoritarian states - the complete mirror of what the Libyan government stands for, with veto power over the decision. Guess I just want someone, anyone to do something besides Office Depot's generous donation of mobile light anti-air platforms  [MLAP's]. Edit: Brown Moses just posted what I was going on about except hopefully it will actually happen.
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| # ¿ Mar 11, 2011 13:07 |
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Young Freud posted:The rebels actually have plenty of MANPADs, it just sounds like CQ's aircraft are out of range. MANPADs versus helicopters usually ends badly for the people in the helicopter. Even that guy in the office chair with the assault rifle could down a chopper.
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| # ¿ Mar 16, 2011 03:07 |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12769993 Doesn't say anything different from what we have heard in the last 24 hours, but it seems to be confirming at least that the rebels have some armor and choppers. The video focuses on the rebels while article is mainly about the no-fly zone and Ghaddafi's statements.
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| # ¿ Mar 17, 2011 10:31 |
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Jut posted:Looks like they stand more chance of landing randomly somewhere in a city than hitting the intended target. Aren't they firing on Brega, which I thought was now a ghost town? No civilians to accidentially blow up? not that they will be lucky enough to hit any Loyalists either
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| # ¿ Apr 9, 2011 11:13 |
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Brown Moses posted:The Guardian says it's MILAN AT Missiles, which is apparently what the Libyan army uses as well. Old news but I couldn't resist... CQ finds a dead mercenary with a sign hanging from his neck "Now I have a Anti-Tank Missle, Ho Ho Ho" from Libyan John McClane. http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnb...anced-weaponry/
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| # ¿ Apr 17, 2011 04:22 |
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| # ¿ May 25, 2013 19:27 |
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Patter Song posted:So the rebels have...recovered to their March positions? After 3 months of allied help? On the eastern front, yeah... But your ignoring the breaking of the siege of Misrata and the gains in the Western mountain areas where they are less than I think 100km from Tripoli.
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| # ¿ Jul 14, 2011 19:12 |
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