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EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!


Daimo posted:

You are completely wrong.

The menu bar has a shadow so it matches and 'new post' is distinct from backward and forward.

It looks bad to me on the buttons because the login fields don't have it, and I think even with them it would look off.

And being distinct doesn't make it a good thing.

Sorry if you disagree.

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1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

Can we make the login screen at least as pretty as the baconreader login? We can't be shown up by Reddit in app superiority.

BathroomTile
Jun 4, 2005

Just your run-of-the-mill bathroom tile.


1997 posted:

Can we make the login screen at least as pretty as the baconreader login? We can't be shown up by Reddit in app superiority.



That does look pretty nice/clean.

Daimo
Sep 14, 2007



Casao posted:

It looks bad to me on the buttons because the login fields don't have it, and I think even with them it would look off.

Fair point there.

BluDiE
Jan 2, 2008

Don't you get it?!?
Everybody loses, now
THAT's WINNING!


All changes up to the one that 1997 made have been implemented, and are on the last page.
1997 I can have something akin to that a bit later.

Color suggestions besides blue, grey, black for the login?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

If you would like to be considered for Asstard Crew please PM me for the application

BluDiE posted:

All changes up to the one that 1997 made have been implemented, and are on the last page.
1997 I can have something akin to that a bit later.

Color suggestions besides blue, grey, black for the login?

Taupe?

Glimm
Jul 27, 2005

Cake in the face?
No thanks!


So I made a pull request that added auto-loading the next page of threads once one scrolls near the bottom of the current list in a particular forum. I would like to do a similar thing with posts once inside a thread, and make it look similar to how Google Reader works (so if one goes slowly enough it will be fairly seemless loading). Do people approve of this functionality in general? It would make the forward/back buttons pretty pointless I think.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



Glimm posted:

So I made a pull request that added auto-loading the next page of threads once one scrolls near the bottom of the current list in a particular forum. I would like to do a similar thing with posts once inside a thread, and make it look similar to how Google Reader works (so if one goes slowly enough it will be fairly seemless loading). Do people approve of this functionality in general? It would make the forward/back buttons pretty pointless I think.

For threads its fine, thread's usually stay within a sane number of pages. But for posts, it won't scale. On top of that, there's no real nice way to go back a page. Do we jump back from the first page you were originally on? Now appending to the list of posts is just redundant. Do we append backwards? That's really confusing for a user.

I vote no on this. It needs to have a configurable method of paging, where the user can pick how many posts per-page they want to see.

Glimm
Jul 27, 2005

Cake in the face?
No thanks!


Ferg posted:

For threads its fine, thread's usually stay within a sane number of pages. But for posts, it won't scale. On top of that, there's no real nice way to go back a page. Do we jump back from the first page you were originally on? Now appending to the list of posts is just redundant. Do we append backwards? That's really confusing for a user.

I vote no on this. It needs to have a configurable method of paging, where the user can pick how many posts per-page they want to see.

That's a good point, I'll leave that alone then

deong
Jun 13, 2001


You could remove the back/forward with swype gestures if your looking to clean up the action bar (make room). I am liking the look of it myself, but its another option. swype up/down for page up/down... although there may be too many accidental swypes that way.

Glimm
Jul 27, 2005

Cake in the face?
No thanks!


deong posted:

You could remove the back/forward with swype gestures if your looking to clean up the action bar (make room). I am liking the look of it myself, but its another option. swype up/down for page up/down... although there may be too many accidental swypes that way.

Yeah I would accidentally swipe all the time, but this could be made a preference eventually?

Ferg
May 6, 2007



deong posted:

You could remove the back/forward with swype gestures if your looking to clean up the action bar (make room). I am liking the look of it myself, but its another option. swype up/down for page up/down... although there may be too many accidental swypes that way.

I don't think the actionbar needs more than a compose and forward while viewing a thread. Quick means to reply, quick means to get to the next page. Previous could go in the menu, tap the title to go back to the thread list. Swipe gestures really could just be a means to augment that experience. Not readily obvious, but nice to have it if you use it.

ROLL D4MN TIDE
May 21, 2010


I don't want to seem like I'm anything but grateful for you guys working on this around the clock, because this is going to own so much.

But a lot of you are bringing up / arguing about pointless features. I'd vote for just compiling a baseline droid forums browser, and add the fancy stuff later.

Thanks a lot for all of your hard work, Ferg et al...

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

I do like the little swipe left type feature in the official twitter app. When viewing a tweet (sort of like reading a post) you can swipe in one direction and it slides the post off the edge of the screen to reveal a row of buttons for context specific actions. That might be useful for things like the Mark Read To Here, Report Post, Quote, or even Share Post (via email, facebook, whatever. There seems to be a generic list of things that my phone provides and some apps add their own there too).

I guess that's just an alternative to the functionality that other people talked about of long pressing a post though.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



Here's an update with what I've been working on tonight. Basically focusing on fixing bugs that I've come across, and addressing things that are annoying (speed to parse pages is a big one on my list).




LastInLine
Mar 15, 2006

Nothing quite like a man in a Cape


So much quoting to do:

1997 posted:

The center one is closest to standard icon implementation, plus I just love it. Please let's avoid having a background.

Karanth posted:

Agreed on failure feedback, but putting up a "post in progress" notification is pretty nonstandard. Even the stock gmail app just puts up a "sending" toast and that feels like a little much.

Then again, if the notification text is analogous to the, "we pray to god it didn't suck" interstitial post page it would at least fit the site.
I really dislike the idea of a posting notification but I think Karanth here has the best idea (kind of): refresh the thread with your new post at the bottom if successful and a toast if it fails. That way you'd still be at the screen where you composed your reply and wouldn't have to retype it.

brosmike posted:

I love me some quickactions

I like quickactions too, but clicking on the avatar should bring links to Profile, Message (assuming we build in PM capability), and maybe Rap Sheet or other non-critical, poster-centered functionality.

Long-pressing on the post is a much better place for Quote. Mainly because on a small screen posts are going to look long, usually longer than the screen. It's going to suck to have to scroll back to the top of the post to quote it. Long-press on the post should bring up Quote, Mark Read to Here, and if Ferg is feeling froggy, maybe Share Post that could do the usual thing were it puts the thread at that post (the # button) on the clipboard and opens the usual app (GMail, Talk, etc). I know I do a lot of sharing of threads with people and it's very common to link to a great post in a thread and this would be convenient and easy.

BluDiE posted:

One functionality that I realized I'm assuming but might not be obvious: When at the thread list, the default action when clicking on a post should be "Go to last unread post". The action bar can, or should, have an option to go back to the OP (although I really don't know how useful that'd be here as opposed to say xda where files are generally in the OP). I like that there's an indicator for how many unread posts there are but you shouldn't have to click it to go to the last unread, clicking anywhere should do it. Does anybody ever not just go to the last unread?

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Since I suck at the coding aspect of Android and anything beyond ADB and custom rom poo poo, would someone mind emailing me or hosting a compiled version of the app so far? I'd really like to check out progress and get a feel for it so I can give better feedback/ideas, but I don't really feel like messing with a ton of that poo poo on my girlfriend's laptop.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



LastInLine posted:

I really dislike the idea of a posting notification but I think Karanth here has the best idea (kind of): refresh the thread with your new post at the bottom if successful and a toast if it fails. That way you'd still be at the screen where you composed your reply and wouldn't have to retype it.

I'm going to start experimenting with this tonight. Returning back to the thread should be fine, and really, if it posts the reply behind a modal dialog the user can immediately retry if/when it fails. I'll start with that implementation.

LastInLine posted:

Long-pressing on the post is a much better place for Quote. Mainly because on a small screen posts are going to look long, usually longer than the screen. It's going to suck to have to scroll back to the top of the post to quote it.

This pretty much sums up my concern with a quickaction. I like the idea, but I'm going to hold off on merging that commit until it feels more appropriate. Currently the only interesting thing to do with a post is to long-press and quote it. If we expand a post with lots of options I think the quickaction would be a much nicer accompaniment to a long-press, but not quite yet.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

This poo poo rules, Ferg for president. This is amazing considering how little time you've put in.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

If you would like to be considered for Asstard Crew please PM me for the application

Nice to see my tar still looks pro when shrunk a bit.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

Obvious question, but the app will be able to rotate into landscape right? I don't think I'd want to type out a long post in portrait orientation.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



big mean giraffe posted:

This poo poo rules, Ferg for president. This is amazing considering how little time you've put in.

Testing new post submission + narcissism.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Vykk.Draygo posted:

Obvious question, but the app will be able to rotate into landscape right? I don't think I'd want to type out a long post in portrait orientation.

It does rotate, but reloads when it does.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



Vykk.Draygo posted:

Obvious question, but the app will be able to rotate into landscape right? I don't think I'd want to type out a long post in portrait orientation.

Yeah, on Android this is actually something you have to go out of your way to disable (iOS is the other way around).

big mean giraffe posted:

It does rotate, but reloads when it does.

That's a TODO on my list.

Edit: Github is updated with a lot of UI additions and a few bugfixes.

Ferg fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2011 around 01:35

The Diddler
Jun 22, 2006



Ferg posted:



Is it possible to shrink the avatar/username box? Maybe I'm weird, but for me, it's more of what's been said as opposed to who said it.

Ferg
May 6, 2007



The Diddler posted:

Is it possible to shrink the avatar/username box? Maybe I'm weird, but for me, it's more of what's been said as opposed to who said it.

Sure, I can experiment.

clamiam45
Sep 10, 2005

HIGH FIVE! I'M GAY TOO!!!!!!


Ferg posted:

Sure, I can experiment.

On that note, is there a reason the text is grey instead of black? I'm no color scientist, but isn't black on white just easier to read since it's higher contrast?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005

OFFICIAL BITCH OF DANBO DAXTER

Not that my opinion is worth much, but I agree. Maybe just take the avatar out completely and compress the name and date/time posted so that blue bar is rather small?

Really I just wanted to post that you are awesome. This will actually let me surf the forums on my phone now. Too awkward on the browser.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

Internet Explorer posted:

Not that my opinion is worth much, but I agree. Maybe just take the avatar out completely and compress the name and date/time posted so that blue bar is rather small?

Really I just wanted to post that you are awesome. This will actually let me surf the forums on my phone now. Too awkward on the browser.
No way, avatar is important. I recognize people by their avatar way more often than their name.

ratbert90
Feb 12, 2009


would it be possible to impliment .GIF support? I would love some mobile Diouf

Ferg
May 6, 2007



ratbert90 posted:

would it be possible to impliment .GIF support? I would love some mobile Diouf

This might be tricky. Still working on getting proper asynchronous image loading in thread posts.

clamiam45 posted:

On that note, is there a reason the text is grey instead of black? I'm no color scientist, but isn't black on white just easier to read since it's higher contrast?

You're correct. Explicit black on white is often a little rougher than you'd think, but a very dark gray takes the edge off just right. I'll play around some more.

Internet Explorer posted:

Not that my opinion is worth much, but I agree. Maybe just take the avatar out completely and compress the name and date/time posted so that blue bar is rather small?

I'll invoke my executive right to veto this and say no. I think the avatar adds a lot of character to the experience, as well as a bit of variety to the content. I will, however, play with making it less huge. I was just using the iPhone app as a baseline.

McLarenF1
Jan 9, 2004

Looking to Buy a McLaren, Anyone Selling One .... Cheap?

Ferg posted:

I'll invoke my executive right to veto this and say no. I think the avatar adds a lot of character to the experience, as well as a bit of variety to the content. I will, however, play with making it less huge. I was just using the iPhone app as a baseline.
I totally agree with this, Avatars are a big part of this forum, and it adds to user recognition a lot.

As per the text and forum colors, I say just go with what you have now and get the app running, and perhaps add setting in the future for custom colors and/or themes.

Great job so far guys! Can't wait to try out the finished product.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Hey 1997 could you get me a picture of that frog you made for the icon but with the mouth open? I'm making a mockup for a login screen, and I'd like to use him.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

big mean giraffe posted:

Hey 1997 could you get me a picture of that frog you made for the icon but with the mouth open? I'm making a mockup for a login screen, and I'd like to use him.
Can't get you all anything new until Friday, posting from my phone. (Without app)

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

1997 posted:

Can't get you all anything new until Friday, posting from my phone. (Without app)

Alright well pretend this frog is a well-done frog with his mouth open:



Comments? Just a basic concept I threw together in paint.net so it's rough. Pretend it's slick and well-done in photoshop or something.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

big mean giraffe posted:

Alright well pretend this frog is a well-done frog with his mouth open:



Comments? Just a basic concept I threw together in paint.net so it's rough. Pretend it's slick and well-done in photoshop or something.

It looks really Windows Phone 7 to me, which isn't bad, but I don't think it goes along with the rest of the app's aesthetic. I might be able to whip something up tomorrow if I'm lucky.

LastInLine
Mar 15, 2006

Nothing quite like a man in a Cape


big mean giraffe posted:

Alright well pretend this frog is a well-done frog with his mouth open:



Comments? Just a basic concept I threw together in paint.net so it's rough. Pretend it's slick and well-done in photoshop or something.
Dumb question, but why is there a login screen at all? Why don't we have User/Pass in the settings and an option to either always log you in and store your U/P or only store your username and require a password?

If it's set to automatically login, make a "Loading" splash screen while it does so and if it's set to require a password make it throw a prompt over the splash.

brosmike
Jun 26, 2009


LastInLine posted:

Dumb question, but why is there a login screen at all? Why don't we have User/Pass in the settings and an option to either always log you in and store your U/P or only store your username and require a password?

If it's set to automatically login, make a "Loading" splash screen while it does so and if it's set to require a password make it throw a prompt over the splash.

To clarify a bit on how login works: Although right now the app DOES store your username and password unmodified in an android-managed SharedPreferences (), this is terrible and it won't be released like this. At release, your username/password will be sent to the server and immediately discarded - all that the app actually needs to store, even to auto-login, is a cookie from the server, NOT your password itself. Ferg, have you started working on this yet? I can do that next if you haven't.

There's not really any reason we need a login screen, but I can't really think of a compelling reason to not have one either - it's more consistent with how most other apps work.

Though I agree there should be a way to bypass it, browse without logging in, and NOT have threads break horribly like they do now.

LastInLine
Mar 15, 2006

Nothing quite like a man in a Cape


brosmike posted:

To clarify a bit on how login works: Although right now the app DOES store your username and password unmodified in an android-managed SharedPreferences (), this is terrible and it won't be released like this. At release, your username/password will be sent to the server and immediately discarded - all that the app actually needs to store, even to auto-login, is a cookie from the server, NOT your password itself. Ferg, have you started working on this yet? I can do that next if you haven't.

There's not really any reason we need a login screen, but I can't really think of a compelling reason to not have one either - it's more consistent with how most other apps work.

Though I agree there should be a way to bypass it, browse without logging in, and NOT have threads break horribly like they do now.

Thanks for the clarification, I'm very interested in the nuts and bolts but know nothing about development.

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big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

I doubt Lowtax wants people browsing without accounts and not seeing ads.

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