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Adell was a godsend in 3, until I hosed myself over with him, was beating down Baal at the end of the final postgame plot with him as he's my favorite character, Baal's killed all of my other characters, suddenly Adell is only hitting 0's or not doing anything (been awhile can't quite remember) and i was at that point I realized I forgot to take that skill off, I then had to game over and hear that song. Argh.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Adell was a godsend in 3, until I hosed myself over with him, was beating down Baal at the end of the final postgame plot with him as he's my favorite character, Baal's killed all of my other characters, suddenly Adell is only hitting 0's or not doing anything (been awhile can't quite remember) and i was at that point I realized I forgot to take that skill off, I then had to game over and hear that song. 3's Game Over song rules.  I also used Adell's skill to power-level a lot of characters. Between him, Kogure, and Axel/Akutare, there sure was a lot of punching going on. Also a lot of detective work, Kogure has the best attacks.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Kogure has the best attacks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...p-n09SpYk#t=81s (sorry for the poor quality)
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I love how ridiculous Disgaea is. I wish more games would not take their selves very seriously, just to see how it goes. Works well for Disgaea and friends.
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Oh man, Disgaea. I played the hell out of 1 and am currently working on 2 (PS2 version for both). Not being able to skip the battle animations in 1 got really annoying, so I eventually pulled my save from my memory card and set up PCSX2 just so I could toggle framelimiting and go through the item world at 4x speed. I finally hit the point in 2's postgame where you can really start powerleveling. CoO 4, item world exploiting, etc. My next goal is to unlock more top-tier generic characters and get the main characters' felonies up to 300 so they can gain levels that much faster. Tink doesn't even have 99 felonies yet but he seems to level rather fast just from regular non-grindy fighting. Adell has 99 so I'm probably going to reincarnate him to help me keep track of how many he really has in total. By the time I actually get done with Disgaea 2 I'm probably going to end up getting a used PS3 for Disgaea 3 and 4 among other games I've missed out on. drat you NIS.
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Laharl is the ideal protagonist. His voice grates on my nerves still but that laugh. That voice is a weapon. You want to conquer the Netherword, Heaven and Earth, other games, just to subject your people to that voice.Lavastine posted:Were your youtube videos of the original atlus released ps2 version? Otherwise it was redubed by NISA with crappier VAs. There was an English-language song added by Atlus to the Maderas fight that wasn't in the port, but far as I know that's it. Pyroxene Stigma posted:That's unfortunate. I just tracked down a copy of 2, haven't opened it yet, but she was the best part of the first game IMO. Definitely the only decent (English) VA. Tragedyland is one of my all-time favourite rpg levels. That is a pretty common video game convention, and the Disgaea series handles it frequently and well, but here I felt it surpassed all other challengers. The Laharl fight later in the game, where you immediately mop the floor with him afterwards was a different take and another fine example. Got kind of repetitive, though...
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Jack MacAskill posted:There was an English-language song added by Atlus to the Maderas fight that wasn't in the port, but far as I know that's it. "Invasion from Within" by Tsunami Bomb, a loving awesome song that just builds up right at the perfect time for that fight.
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It was also the trailer music EDIT: \/ Pick up 3. Unlike the others it really dropped in price. At least for now. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at Mar 5, 2011 around 00:18 |
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I was completely put off by whatever Disgea I played on the PSP, but I hated playing games on that thing so I don't really hold it against the game. Seeing as how that was my only exposure to the franchise though, I was ready to just gloss over Disgaea entirely, but the D4 movie in the OP was pretty awesome  I'm probably going to fit this in somewhere between Child of Eden and Battlefield 3, looks like a boatload of fun
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Any love out there for the Prinny games? Tried the Japanese demo for the first one and was immediately put off by the brutal controls. Then a year or so later I played the localized version and got into it pretty quick. It does get easier, you learn. Butt-pound everybody. Missile attack bosses point-blank (for melee & missile damage). Mash that faulty PSP button. All that helps. The game is still brutal, you are a Prinny, you are not special, you suck. But there are a thousand of you, so you keep going, and dying, and just pray that one of you can make it to the finish. And then in the end you use all of your surviving comrades to bombard the everloving gently caress out of the final boss. If you're playing right, anyway. Loads of stuff there. Junk to collect; character bios, BGM records, actual piles of junk. There are six main levels and you can choose what order to play them in, Mega Man Style. While you never get stronger from beating any of these bosses, the stages get progressively harder the later in the game you go. Platforms are fewer, enemies more numerous, skies more ominous. And then the bosses. The bosses may fight harder, or they can switch out the ninja for her pet dragon (pictured; that's the frog's 'ninja mask' in her hand), or maybe they'll just throw three bosses at you at once. Oh, and I love all the bosses. Kim and Chi in the video there, Turmeric and his semen, CHEFBOT-9000's "COOKING BATTLE". Collect enough lucky dolls and you can challenge Etna in the most intimidating boss fight I've ever experienced. Playing through the main game six times was worth it just for the cutscenes. Asagi mode, so tragic. Asagi is now my favourite character. Hate all her English voices, but that themesong is drat catchy.
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I actually love Asagi's voice in Prinny. Maybe it's just me.
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Doesn't Asagi's voice change in every game? I remember blind running all of Prinny the day I got my hands on it, start to finish, next day my entire right arm was all cramped up and hurt. Good times
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Does anybody know what new stuff was added to the newest phantom brave for psp game from the ps2 version? I can't find a list of stuff besides some more character quest stuff(zhp guy etc..)
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I've played Prinny since I got a PSP and still haven't beat the last boss. gently caress that guy. The English Prinny VA is my favorite in the series, too. The panicked scream is just spot on.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I remember blind running all of Prinny the day I got my hands on it, start to finish, next day my entire right arm was all cramped up and hurt. Good times I ran though the sequel in about three days and couldn't move my right arm too well for two days after that. The button mashing in the final boss is worse than in the first 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I keep hoping that they'll release Disgaea 3 for PSP or something, but it aint happening, is it?
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Endorph posted:I actually love Asagi's voice in Prinny. Maybe it's just me. ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Doesn't Asagi's voice change in every game? Best was the Disgaea 2 psp port; Disgaea 2 originally had an unlockable Asagi from Makai Kingdom, using her sprite from Makai Kingdom. Meaning she was half as tall as anyone else in the game, and carried a large shotgun. Then the game is ported to the psp, and they give Lil' Asagi the option to petition the Dark Assembly to become human, at which point she becomes the air-guitaring (or axe-guitaring as in the previously posted gif) full-sized Asagi from Prinny. Two different sprites, different attacks, different personalities, different actresses. If you cheat, clearly there is no better reason to do so, you can procure a monster Asagi and human Asagi then magichange them together to get Asagi wielding a large shotgun with another tiny Asagi riding the barrel. I had screenshots of this, they are missing... Haven't played Prinny 2's Asagi Wars in English yet, but all the bosses are alternate Asagis. There's a beetle, robot, muscle man (?), zombie, low-res Cladun sprite... bbcisdabomb posted:I've played Prinny since I got a PSP and still haven't beat the last boss. gently caress that guy. Regarding the final boss, have you ever lost all one thousand prinnies? Unlocks Prinny Raid, that's the only way to fight that guy. Only way, memorization and repetition is lame. Bell_ posted:Why would I buy a PSP2 at the end of this year if Disgaea 3 won't eventually be released for it?
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, that combined with making them a partner in a really powerful combo attack to finish off a high level enemy, made by throwing weak enemies together. I'm not ALL that creative in Disgaea though, I am sure others have thought of other ways. Wait, if I stack a bunch of enemies together (in Disgaea 3) it basically makes them a high level enemy that I can combo attack with 3-4 characters for an unholy sum of XP? How far in do you have to get before you can throw together something other than generic 2 man skill combos? I've tried a bunch of different weapon/spell combos with 3-4 characters but they usually end up as Mao/Almaz doing some 2man attack that blows away a normal enemy, and the other two guys just sit there and wait to kill someone else. Polite Tim posted:The english language version of 4 can't come too soon. I'm still playing Disgaea 3 a year on from purchase, and only just have got my first character to level 9999. I know I won't like the answer, but how long did this take you?  Also what's the deal with unlocking monsters/classes in 3? I screwed around in lower level item worlds to level a handful of imperial seals when I was around level 15 (was 24 when all was said and done) and got things like the ability to make magic/heavy knights, along with some monsters and the slightly better version of stuff like brawlers. It also seems like I should consider giving everyone bows and just raping from a distance, like those bastards in PTA nearly did to me.  Also cannot figure out how to fill the bonus gauge on some maps due to a lack of sufficient geo blocks to chain (plus I almost always manage to gently caress up a block reaction).
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Evil Fluffy posted:I know I won't like the answer, but how long did this take you? I've never done it, but supposedly it only takes an hour or two if you've already fought and beaten the first optional boss, who is "only" level 2000. The recruitment process is based on comparative hitpoints of the recruit vs. your entire stored party and except for Baal the optional bosses join you when you beat them, and they still have their disproportionately high HP. It wasn't actually the time investment for monster recruitment that stopped me, I just thought it was kind of lame I wouldn't be able to beat Baal with Laharl unless I were willing to grind forever.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I've never done it, but supposedly it only takes an hour or two if you've already fought and beaten the first optional boss, who is "only" level 2000. It takes 5 hours to set up getting to level 9999 the first time from beating CoO4, but once you get past that point, you can get a character to 9999 every 12 minutes if you wish. I used the exp clubs to get a bunch of monster classes and misc. characters up as well, and there's nothing more satisfying in the game than having three characters get up to level 3000 after 25 seconds of fighting. Still; finding Statisticians, cloning items, going through item world, passing enemy level bills. It's kind of a pain, but if you want to power level, they made it really easy for you in Disgaea 3. That's why I'm happy to hear Disgaea 3's battle system is the basis for 4. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the story, the gameplay gets stronger with each individual entry in the series.
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Jack MacAskill posted:Yeah. They changed him for the second game, but I didn't mind that much seeing as it's not supposed to be any one prinny anyhow. Still... I can pretty consistently drop the final form of the final boss to about 1/3 hp, but I always get knocked off at the end of his second pattern. I also have 800 lives, so losing the rest of them would be way too much of a pain in the rear end. I'm just gonna keep trying, eventually I'll have to get it.
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punchdaily posted:Still; finding Statisticians, cloning items, going through item world, passing enemy level bills. It's kind of a pain, but if you want to power level, they made it really easy for you in Disgaea 3. Ah, sorry, the conversation kind of wandered away: I was talking about Disgaea 1.
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punchdaily posted:It takes 5 hours to set up getting to level 9999 the first time from beating CoO4, but once you get past that point, you can get a character to 9999 every 12 minutes if you wish. I used the exp clubs to get a bunch of monster classes and misc. characters up as well, and there's nothing more satisfying in the game than having three characters get up to level 3000 after 25 seconds of fighting. Yeah, the option of duping in D3 is awesome once you get your hands on the Puppy Paw Stick (5th postgame boss or high floor Item World pirate). Since EXP innocents are stackable in D3, you just dupe fully outfitted EXP gears and it takes one battle of Ordeals-4 to go from Lv 1 -> 9999. Speaking of which, Puppy Paw makes a return in D4 too, but much harder to obtain. They also improved upon the D3 club system by allowing characters to belong in multiple clubs such as EXP + mana. Between dual-wielding giant, magichange weapons and multiple clubs, it's possible to power-level 10 characters at a time.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Ah, sorry, the conversation kind of wandered away: I was talking about Disgaea 1. Oh. Yeah, Disgaea 1's grind to beat Baal is pretty awful if you don't have a version where you can skip animations. I played it for the PS2 and then later for the DS. While you can't diagonal throw in the DS version, it has a lot of things that help you get where you need to be quicker. And surprisingly long load times for a cartridge game. Even with animation skip, it takes a good, long time. They do give you an additional, better map with a 3x3 grind spot, which cuts your time significantly. Really, after a point it's faster to just get a weapon stronger in item world than it is to level up your characters.
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A level 100 Yoshitsuna is enough to beat Baal. UPB is another matter entirely.
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Lavastine posted:Does anybody know what new stuff was added to the newest phantom brave for psp game from the ps2 version? I can't find a list of stuff besides some more character quest stuff(zhp guy etc..) It has all the stuff from the Wii version, plus even more new characters and stuff. I don't know any more specifics than that though.
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punchdaily posted:It takes 5 hours to set up getting to level 9999 the first time from beating CoO4, but once you get past that point, you can get a character to 9999 every 12 minutes if you wish. I used the exp clubs to get a bunch of monster classes and misc. characters up as well, and there's nothing more satisfying in the game than having three characters get up to level 3000 after 25 seconds of fighting. So doing this basically requires I farm item worlds to boost up a statistician (which? I never saw the game mention what all of them do) and then use a map with a bunch of xp blocks; but the main time requirement is basically getting an item setup to have a huge +xp% stat?
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Evil Fluffy posted:So doing this basically requires I farm item worlds to boost up a statistician (which? I never saw the game mention what all of them do) and then use a map with a bunch of xp blocks; but the main time requirement is basically getting an item setup to have a huge +xp% stat? Well, in Disagea 3 there's reverse pirating, the only way you can find statisticians, and class world where, with the right weapon, you can steal an item from yourself sometimes. You have to pretty much get up to level 700 before you can do most of this, but once you get going it goes pretty smoothly. Personally, I find grinding in these games incredibly relaxing, but I don't know what that says about me.
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My favourite part about Disgaea is that it fixes the biggest problem all SRPGs have: The difficulty curve. Usually you can choose between three kinds of difficulty: 1. Constantly Overwhelmed and forced to Grind 2. Constantly Overleveled and Bored 3. Getting both of the above with Autoleveling Thanks to the Dark Assembly and harder/weaker enemies bills you can tailor the difficulty as you go, whether that be "i want to steamroll everything" or "i want to end battles with only one or two guys left standing". As far as i am concerned every SRPG which doesn't have something like that is way inferior to the entire Disgaea franchise. Which leads me to a question i have: Is there an upper cap to the "harder enemies" bills?
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For Disgaea 3 there is a hard cap. For Disgaea 4, apparently there is not (level 9999 tutorial battle Prinnies? HELLS YES!)
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How much exactly does each passing of that bill level up the enemies, anyway?
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I picked up Disgaea 1 for the DS a while ago, and I just finished the main game, and started Etna mode. It's a little taxing because I never used Etna and now everyone is level 65, so I have to rely on my other guys. When I finish Etna mode and start my second runthrough of the normal game, will everyone be even stronger, or will they just go back to level 1?
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Samurai Sanders posted:How much exactly does each passing of that bill level up the enemies, anyway?
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Kirios posted:For Disgaea 3 there is a hard cap. For Disgaea 4, apparently there is not (level 9999 tutorial battle Prinnies? HELLS YES!) How about the mobile disgaeas? I doubt i'll ever play it on a big console.
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ThemeMusicC posted:I picked up Disgaea 1 for the DS a while ago, and I just finished the main game, and started Etna mode. It's a little taxing because I never used Etna and now everyone is level 65, so I have to rely on my other guys. Yeah you keep your progress you made in Etna mode. Even through normal mode.
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punchdaily posted:Well, in Disagea 3 there's reverse pirating, the only way you can find statisticians, and class world where, with the right weapon, you can steal an item from yourself sometimes. You have to pretty much get up to level 700 before you can do most of this, but once you get going it goes pretty smoothly. So I need to hit level 700 before I can even start power leveling my guys? This kind of stuff is all way the gently caress after the game's story has long been beaten right? 
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Evil Fluffy posted:This kind of stuff is all way the gently caress after the game's story has long been beaten right?
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Mithaldu posted:1. Constantly Overwhelmed and forced to Grind
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Endorph posted:Fire Emblem has none of these? Except maybe overleveled in FE8. Then again the only game you can even grind in is FE8. I must admit i never played that one. Is the one on the DS worth playing?
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Mithaldu posted:Not if you take your time and use "stronger enemies" bills. Enemies that are normally level 10 will be lvl 90 with 20 of them and enemies that would be level 1000 will be level 5000. This is very tempting. Is there a decent guide anywhere for combos? Even now trying more skills, including Almaz's sworddance and Mao's blast finger, I cannot get any sort of good combo. Just a bunch of the "we're going to combine two skills' animations and give a slight damage boost" combos.
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