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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



For 3 I just got Revea and Gig. I got Revea first and then the battle to get Gig after that turned into a battle just between the two of them. It was loving glorious, not for the least because this music was playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGXJ6LfGkmM

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at Apr 2, 2011 around 20:32

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TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!


I'm sad that Gig's English voice acting seems to be missing.

CaptainWinky
Jun 13, 2001

DOS, dank, n drank


In Disgaea 2, how do you get Axel cellphones? Do you just have to be really lucky with the bonus gauge, or do cellphone stores in tougher item world levels have them? I have never found a cellphone store with an Axel phone yet. I found a couple of them just playing through the main story the first time, but I want more because Axel owns.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead.


Phones are very random.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

TEGGS posted:

I'm sad that Gig's English voice acting seems to be missing.

Guess they couldn't/wouldn't hire the guy for what is basically one or two lines. Let me make the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRmc...feature=related

Here in this lot is Gig's Jap voice. It's too little to be worth it. Reyva's, such as it is, was pulled direct from Soul Nomad. I can only assume there weren't comparable lines that could be pulled.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

BUDDHA'S A BRO
296 Fuckups and Counting!


So uh, if anyone cares, Disgaea 4 has a preorder page on Amazon, with a release date of end of August, and seems to be the standard price: $49.99

edit: Yeah, I figured the date may change, but I wasn't sure if $49.99 was a big deal, I don't remember what 3 came out at.

Ineffiable fucked around with this message at Apr 5, 2011 around 18:40

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



That August date isn't official though. :/

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

I RAPED MY WAY TO N1 AND ALL I GOT WAS
A SHITTY SCORE,
A BAD CASE OF THE SPERGS,
AND THIS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Ladies, do not let this goon simultaneously interpret for you.


marry me kapalama


I just started Disgaea 2, and man this whole beginning of the game thing is rough. The randomly generated item world levels seem a whole lot more extreme than any of the ones I encountered in Disgaea 1. Specifically, height differences are insane.

Immediately having fun and appreciating all the nice little improvements they made:

24 items in the backpack.
Separate vendor for hands and misc. items.
Quick bonus gauge filling.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

D2 PSP is the best Disgaea in the english market. I don't know how good D4 will be, though.

CaptainWinky
Jun 13, 2001

DOS, dank, n drank


ErIog posted:

I just started Disgaea 2, and man this whole beginning of the game thing is rough. The randomly generated item world levels seem a whole lot more extreme than any of the ones I encountered in Disgaea 1. Specifically, height differences are insane.

Immediately having fun and appreciating all the nice little improvements they made:

24 items in the backpack.
Separate vendor for hands and misc. items.
Quick bonus gauge filling.
The height differences can be annoying, especially when you're trying to get to a mystery gate or court gate and it's on top of a 100-dm-high spire with no way to throw a character into it. However it's also nice because you can use characters with high jump ability and put them on higher areas to keep them out of the enemies' reach.

Also: Hell yes. I admit I cheesed Zetta pretty hard to beat him, but I beat him nonetheless.

fixed for less blurriness

CaptainWinky fucked around with this message at Apr 5, 2011 around 19:01

floor is lava
May 14, 2007

mmfffmf mfmf mff


CaptainWinky posted:

The height differences can be annoying, especially when you're trying to get to a mystery gate or court gate and it's on top of a 100-dm-high spire with no way to throw a character into it. However it's also nice because you can use characters with high jump ability and put them on higher areas to keep them out of the enemies' reach.

Also: Hell yes. I admit I cheesed Zetta pretty hard to beat him, but I beat him nonetheless.


Gahh, tap F5 a few times until that's not so blurry.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

A mere 18 Felonies?

CaptainWinky
Jun 13, 2001

DOS, dank, n drank


Pureauthor posted:

A mere 18 Felonies?

10 felonies on the stamp (yeah sorry about the blur, I suck at emulators) but he already had another 100 racked up and just reincarnated. He was level 850 or so before I reincarnated so I could keep track of how many felonies he has total.

floor is lava
May 14, 2007

mmfffmf mfmf mff


Can't you use a flying unit to climb spires? The problem is dealing with a gate guard.

TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!


Bloodly posted:

Guess they couldn't/wouldn't hire the guy for what is basically one or two lines. Let me make the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRmc...feature=related

Here in this lot is Gig's Jap voice. It's too little to be worth it. Reyva's, such as it is, was pulled direct from Soul Nomad. I can only assume there weren't comparable lines that could be pulled.

Well, Kogure Souichirou never even appeared in a game that was released outside of Japan and they still got him an English voice actor.

Reyva is different since she and her male version had no English voice actors.

Unknown_PC
Oct 9, 2002

Before I got famous...

Like the Japanese version, Disgaea 4's English naming contest is up now

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead.


ErIog posted:

I just started Disgaea 2, and man this whole beginning of the game thing is rough. The randomly generated item world levels seem a whole lot more extreme than any of the ones I encountered in Disgaea 1. Specifically, height differences are insane.

Immediately having fun and appreciating all the nice little improvements they made:

24 items in the backpack.
Separate vendor for hands and misc. items.
Quick bonus gauge filling.
There is nothing wrong with giving your people shoes. I know that it eats up your potential damage, but those with 4 move and 15 jump are liabilities.
I have yet to see panels needing 60 jump in Item World, as in D1. I never saw 100 dm panels in the Item World. How high can you jump with pure dm level 100 slippers?

I thought I was special with getting Venus' title. I kind of want to be a Badass.

Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at Apr 8, 2011 around 14:21

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

I RAPED MY WAY TO N1 AND ALL I GOT WAS
A SHITTY SCORE,
A BAD CASE OF THE SPERGS,
AND THIS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Ladies, do not let this goon simultaneously interpret for you.


marry me kapalama


Scalding Coffee posted:

There is nothing wrong with giving your people shoes. I know that it eats up your potential damage, but those with 4 move and 15 jump are liabilities.
I have yet to see panels needing 60 jump in Item World, as in D1. I never saw 100 dm panels in the Item World. How high can you jump with pure dm level 100 slippers?

I thought I was special with getting Venus' title. I kind of want to be a Badass.

Yeah, the problem I had with shoes in Disgaea 1 is that none of them increase movement enough. In a lot of cases all it really does is make the slow people comparable to quick un-shod people. As I'm finding legendary Angel's Shoes, though, I am using them as a vehicle for specialists since the shoes provide something you can't really get on any other type of item, and specialists eventually outpace any benefit you could ever derive from base armor.

In Disgaea 2 all the shoes I'm encountering are still crappy.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead.


It does make sense that most shoes only provide one move unless you put an engine on them. You would be better off getting the Accelerator(?) from a special map and level that monster.

Unknown_PC
Oct 9, 2002

Before I got famous...

D4 Monster & Magichange skills HD video is up.

I didn't even know there were so many references in the game, I usually just turn the animations off

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

Do I have everybody's attention now?


I completely forgot about this game and haven't been following it. After watching the monster ability video, I was in love as soon as I saw the Pythagora Switch reference. I cannot wait for the US release.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Gone to outer space
to shoot that dickbag in his face


The Rube Goldberg machine one is the most creative one yet. That and the Gargoyle rail-gun. Were all these monsters in D3? I don't recognize some of them.

TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!


yellowcar posted:

The Rube Goldberg machine one is the most creative one yet. That and the Gargoyle rail-gun. Were all these monsters in D3? I don't recognize some of them.

All of them, with the exception of the Gargoyle, were in 3. Gargoyles have been absent from the series since 1.

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.

I liked how completely ludicrous all the attacks are now, especially the Succubus magichange nosebleed and death scythe thingies sheep count attacks.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010


I've been slowly setting up a party to run with in Disgaea 1 from a new game. I'm trying to have each of the weapons eventually represented. Here's what I've got so far:

Laharl (Sword)
Laharl's Pupil (Female Martial Artist, Fist)
Etna (Spear)
Etna's Pupil (Female Cleric, Bow)

I just picked up Flonne, and I'm not sure what I want to do with her and her pupil. Here's a couple of plans:

1. Give Flonne a Gun. Have her Pupil be a Star Mage with one of each of the starting elemental spells.

2. Give Flonne a Staff, and have her be the mage. Her Pupil will be a Scout with a Gun. Not sure what the requirements for scout are.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006


I did bow-Flonne in every playthrough of Disgaea 1 and I always felt like I was missing out -- isn't her natural aptitude S in staves?

As to unlocking scouts, check GameFAQs. EllyEllyElly's guide and Salah Al Din's are incredible resources full of information you didn't know you didn't know.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

I RAPED MY WAY TO N1 AND ALL I GOT WAS
A SHITTY SCORE,
A BAD CASE OF THE SPERGS,
AND THIS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Ladies, do not let this goon simultaneously interpret for you.


marry me kapalama


Thanks to a gift of 50k hell from Hoggmeiser in Disgaea 2, my party is rapidly starting to own the item world thanks to being kitted out with gear I shouldn't have yet. My strategy of buying out every cell phone store I come across has paid off handsomely.

Thanks to my familiarity with how Disgaea works, I've set my party up a lot better initially with the proper use of pupils.

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005


RickVoid posted:

I've been slowly setting up a party to run with in Disgaea 1 from a new game. I'm trying to have each of the weapons eventually represented. Here's what I've got so far:

Laharl (Sword)
Laharl's Pupil (Female Martial Artist, Fist)
Etna (Spear)
Etna's Pupil (Female Cleric, Bow)

I just picked up Flonne, and I'm not sure what I want to do with her and her pupil. Here's a couple of plans:

1. Give Flonne a Gun. Have her Pupil be a Star Mage with one of each of the starting elemental spells.

2. Give Flonne a Staff, and have her be the mage. Her Pupil will be a Scout with a Gun. Not sure what the requirements for scout are.

Giving a cleric a bow is going to be a big handicap later on, because staff mastery increases spell range, power, and area of effect. Your cleric should really be healing or buffing every turn, not attacking.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

「ダブル超電磁ロボの必殺技,
見せてやるぜ!」


Unknown_PC posted:

D4 Monster & Magichange skills HD video is up.

I didn't even know there were so many references in the game, I usually just turn the animations off

My favorite references of those:

- The V slash at 7:20 is a Voltes V reference.
- This whole flying machine impaling beam attack is pretty much a Gundam 0083 reference.
- Obvious Fist of the North Star reference.

TEGGS
Nov 21, 2004

Spoony Bard!


Gadzuko posted:

Giving a cleric a bow is going to be a big handicap later on, because staff mastery increases spell range, power, and area of effect. Your cleric should really be healing or buffing every turn, not attacking.

The flipside is Flonne can be excellent nuker. Since there is no healing magic experience gain in the first Disgaea, giving Flonne some sort of direct damage spells will be helpful if not required.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

The Green Lantern Corps:
Only sort of like the FBI.


TEGGS posted:

The flipside is Flonne can be excellent nuker. Since there is no healing magic experience gain in the first Disgaea, giving Flonne some sort of direct damage spells will be helpful if not required.

That's what I do. Give Flonne a bow so she can get 3 kills, pupil a mage of each color to her so she knows all 3 skillsets, and watch as she and Gordon become the ranged damage section leaders.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I'm currently in House of Ordeals 4 in Disgaea 3 doing some level grinding but i'm a bit confused by the exp+100% tiles there. Logic would tell me that it's my guy that has to be standing on the tile to get double experience, but it seems more or less designed for big bang spamming.

On top of that it doesn't really feel like i'm levelling up that fast.

I've got one character at level 2000 with level 4 big bang (and the most expensive fist gravitywhatsits equipped) and the character will just barely kill the level 950 enemies that are on there.

I'm following a levelling guide that says to actualy do this until i reach level 5000, but i assumed that it would be a hell of a lot faster. I'm usually only gaining about 10 levels at a time, for instance.

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.

The enemy has to be standing on the +exp tile, not your character

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009


You have to get some statisticians, max them out and fill your item slots with them if your want your levels to jump in the hundreds range.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

I RAPED MY WAY TO N1 AND ALL I GOT WAS
A SHITTY SCORE,
A BAD CASE OF THE SPERGS,
AND THIS PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Ladies, do not let this goon simultaneously interpret for you.


marry me kapalama


Zettace posted:

You have to get some statisticians, max them out and fill your item slots with them if your want your levels to jump in the hundreds range.

Remember: Max bonus on statisticians is 300, but it does stack with the Exp tiles already on the board. So if I've got the math down you're getting 2x from the tiles and then another 3x from the statisticians for 6x total bonus.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

ErIog posted:

Remember: Max bonus on statisticians is 300, but it does stack with the Exp tiles already on the board. So if I've got the math down you're getting 2x from the tiles and then another 3x from the statisticians for 6x total bonus.

From what i'm reading, in order to get those i have to first get some pirates, then steal their ship and begin reverse pirating right?

I've read something about item duping too in order to prevent you from having to try and harvest statiticians over and over again.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010


Thanks for the advice guys. I'm still kinda learning what I'm doing here, so the comments are helpful.

I think I'll be going with giving Flonne a staff and three mage pupils. Get her one of each of their elemental spells, get her 200 mana, get the girls to level five, have Flonne make a 200 mana Star Mage. Ditch the other girls, get the Star Mage one of each of the elemental spells. That should be good for magic for a while.

Laharl and Etna are getting close to having enough mana for another pupil each, and my Female Brawler has enough for a pupil of her own. Is it better to give Laharl and Etna another pupil, or should I give the current pupils some pupils of their own? I guess the question is, when the Brawler's Pupil levels up, and gains stats, will Laharl gain stats from the Brawler's resulting stat gain?

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005


At lower levels in Disgaea games my preference is to pile everything I've got onto one character who can clean house and open the door to powerleveling all my other characters. After a certain point mana becomes irrelevant and you can go around creating new characters all over the place, so you can set your team up however you want.

edit: the pupil benefit question is answered better than I can by this FAQ, and Salah al Din's FAQ is probably good for virtually everything else.

Gadzuko fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2011 around 19:22

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009


ErIog posted:

Remember: Max bonus on statisticians is 300, but it does stack with the Exp tiles already on the board. So if I've got the math down you're getting 2x from the tiles and then another 3x from the statisticians for 6x total bonus.
Disgaea 3 removed this cap. The actual cap is now just how many you can fit on your equipment; meaning you can get up to 9600% more exp.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2011 around 19:28

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Darth l33t
Jul 6, 2000


RickVoid posted:

I think I'll be going with giving Flonne a staff and three mage pupils. Get her one of each of their elemental spells, get her 200 mana, get the girls to level five, have Flonne make a 200 mana Star Mage. Ditch the other girls, get the Star Mage one of each of the elemental spells. That should be good for magic for a while.
Is it really worth it spend that much mana on a pupil? It sounds like you only need to hang onto the Star Mage until Flonne reaches level 1 in Star herself, in which case you could get a good-for-nothing SM for 1 mana.

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