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Evil Fluffy posted:Your pirates show up in only your friends' games, and not just anyone's game, right? No they show up in anyone's, I just got attacked by some pirates from someone i don't even know. And you can turn off visiting pirates, and choose how tough the ones who show up are. I'm not exactly sure what the numbers mean, but you can have No custom pirates, Low, Medium and High. You choose everytime you enter the item world after unlocking pirates yourself.
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I'm glad to see evilities made the transition to 4. Does Adell still have the Mercy evility? That skill saved a ton of effort when leveling lower level character.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 18:37 |
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XkyRauh posted:And miss out on the fun? No way! I didn't mean to sound as if I was complaining--I was more asking if there was an in-game option to turn off visitors. If not, that's fine. Yeah, it's not as bad as I made it out to be, when you go into a item with a connection it asks you if you want to turn enemy pirates on, and if so level cap yourself (None) (Low Rank Pirates) (Middle Rank Pirates) (High Rank Pirates) You can have friendly pirates show up too, like if I set mine to friendly they'd show up to help you, sadly they're out for blood.
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Hunter Noventa posted:And you can turn off visiting pirates, and choose how tough the ones who show up are. I'm not exactly sure what the numbers mean, but you can have No custom pirates, Low, Medium and High. You choose everytime you enter the item world after unlocking pirates yourself. IIRC the game also will only bring in pirates around the same level as the enemies you are fighting so things should stay relatively balanced.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 18:42 |
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Mokinokaro posted:IIRC the game also will only bring in pirates around the same level as the enemies you are fighting so things should stay relatively balanced. Normal pirates work that way, invading pirates from another netherworld are whatever level you set them to be
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 19:02 |
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XkyRauh posted:And miss out on the fun? No way! I didn't mean to sound as if I was complaining--I was more asking if there was an in-game option to turn off visitors. If not, that's fine. There's a "Network" option at the bottom of the settings but it's all or nothing. PSN name is apdastous, feel free to add me. None of my other friends play anime games I guess.
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All right, so I just unlocked map editing, huzzah. Turns out you can't fight on your own map except in test mode, so once you get the CP to buy say, Exp +50%, it can be worth it since you can plunk down say, six of those and an ally boost or something, but you also have to have something worth killing. That said, anyone know of any good maps for grinigng around level 25 or so? Or is going to put one up? I put one up, but it's mostly a test with 3 Level 1 catsabers and a 70% exp boost. I'll have to make something better when I can more reliably level things up, just for that grinding. And you DO get to keep items exp from testing your map though, so once you have something worth killing over and over, you're set as far as grinding goes.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 19:38 |
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Don't forget to capture pirates to torture them into telling you where their treasure is so you can upgrade your ship. You need to have one of those buildings placed first though! I'm gonna try to get a statistician today from this mystery thing and figure out how I'm gonna get 300 of it 
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 19:54 |
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Oh so that's how the ship thing works  Fair enough
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 20:13 |
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Oh so that's how the ship thing works No. when I mean capture I mean throwing them to your base panel.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 20:26 |
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Dizz posted:No. when I mean capture I mean throwing them to your base panel. Which i've had no success with so far, twice I've tried to capture the fisherman pirates, but he always wallops my guys, even when they've got 7 levels on him and outnumber him 12 to 1. I can't wait til someone breaks that open so we can figure out how to capture things without being wiped out.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 20:46 |
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Val's level matters in the capture formula now. Make sure he is significantly above the pirates.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 20:48 |
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I've only had success with one capture. I tried going big with another one but then my base panel blew up and I was forced to Gency out  Still no luck with this statistician as well. Does anyone know if progressing through the innocent sides of the item world would level up the innocent?
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 21:05 |
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Dizz posted:I've only had success with one capture. I tried going big with another one but then my base panel blew up and I was forced to Gency out Ah okay, I'll level up Val more. I don't think it'll level up the innocent automatically, I did get an 'Innocent' Geo effect that claimed to power up innocents killed on it or something, and while i did so, I didn't think to check and see if it actually worked.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 21:07 |
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Dizz posted:I've only had success with one capture. I tried going big with another one but then my base panel blew up and I was forced to Gency out As far as I know, it doesn't. All the innocent boost does, I think, is increase chance of them appearing, or new ones appearing. So 9 times out of 10, you'd be better off leveling your items. Also, when do you get character world? I'm in chapter 5 and haven't seen an obvious way to get access.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 21:32 |
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When do I get access to Magichange in D2? I've just finished the main arena chapter, 6 I think?
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Surprise T Rex posted:When do I get access to Magichange in D2? I've just finished the main arena chapter, 6 I think? Its only in the PSP version, and having not played it I have no idea, but I'd assume you'd either get it at the start or post game.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 21:44 |
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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I think you need to find Mao (Blacksmith) in the Item World Mystery Rooms and have him "customize" a monster to enable Magichange. No wait, that was to unlock Magichange 2. I think you need to have completed Axel's Story. You get it somewhere in Chapter 2 or so of his story.
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Surprise T Rex posted:When do I get access to Magichange in D2? I've just finished the main arena chapter, 6 I think? It's only in the remake on PSP, I believe. There is no Magichange in the PS2 Disgaea2, as that concept/feature was not introduced until 3. e:f,b
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Yeah, I have the PSP version. I guess I'll just keep on playing through the story then. I've been doing more item worlding than the main campaign up till now, but it seems like most of the exploitable stuff isn't really available until postgame. I kind of wish the portable versions of the game had a 'standby' mode where I could just temporarily save in the middle of a battle though. Item world grinding isn't really very plausible to just pick up and play. (and I leave my PSP for days at a time sometimes so the built-in PSP standby would drain the battery).
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 21:52 |
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Surprise T Rex posted:I kind of wish the portable versions of the game had a 'standby' mode where I could just temporarily save in the middle of a battle though. Item world grinding isn't really very plausible to just pick up and play. (and I leave my PSP for days at a time sometimes so the built-in PSP standby would drain the battery).
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Listen, I didn't face ten long tours against the goddamn 'bots to come back home and lift baby weights.
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Surprise T Rex posted:Yeah, I have the PSP version. I guess I'll just keep on playing through the story then. I've been doing more item worlding than the main campaign up till now, but it seems like most of the exploitable stuff isn't really available until postgame. Probably the most important grinding you can do in the early game is to find a patch of invincibility tiles in the item world and get your weapon skills up to lvl 21. Having skills like Big Bang for Adell is pretty helpful.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2011 22:43 |
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Man, I was distracted when I fought Kurtis and Axel to recruit them Didn't realize Tomo Yo and White Tiger got a kicking rad remix till I just sat to listen to them. Like goddamn I love the new versions.
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Good Citizen posted:Probably the most important grinding you can do in the early game is to find a patch of invincibility tiles in the item world and get your weapon skills up to lvl 21. Having skills like Big Bang for Adell is pretty helpful. I miss the old weapon system SO much in the newer games. Not to mention the old method of teaching skills to people by standing next to them. I'd love to have it back because class world and paying mana for everything kinda sucks.
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| # ? Sep 6, 2011 00:27 |
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Hunter Noventa posted:I miss the old weapon system SO much in the newer games. Not to mention the old method of teaching skills to people by standing next to them. I'd love to have it back because class world and paying mana for everything kinda sucks. Its only annoying until end game because then mana comes out your ears, but after hitting 9999 a few times I guess its less important since you could reincarnate the generics to whatever you wanted anyway.
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Hunter Noventa posted:I miss the old weapon system SO much in the newer games. Not to mention the old method of teaching skills to people by standing next to them. I'd love to have it back because class world and paying mana for everything kinda sucks. In D2: Standing side by side works In D3: Standing side by side works as long as they're in the same club In D4: Standing side by side works as long as they're in the same Evil Aura Unless you're talking about major hidden skills in which case yeah you need to inherit those.
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Is there anything special I need to know about reincarnation? I reincarnated DESCO at around level 50 but would levels yield more stats for reincarnation?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:In D2: Standing side by side works Are there still hidden "classic" skills in this game? Seeing Rising Dragon is D3 always made me smile. Dizz posted:Is there anything special I need to know about reincarnation? I reincarnated DESCO at around level 50 but would levels yield more stats for reincarnation? Reincarnating at higher levels gives more bonus stats at level 1, yes, and I believe reincarnating a Level 9999 gives the most innate level 1 stats. I've read that Fenrich and DESCO are the best power levelers in this game. So with 180,000 or whatever the max is, with a reincarnation of level 9999, you get the highest potential base stats.
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El Belmondo posted:I've read that Fenrich and DESCO are the best power levelers in this game. My highest level is only like 240+ I guess I will hold out on reincarnating for now and just keep powerlevelling.
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Dizz posted:My highest level is only like 240+ Yeah, the typical first playthrough in any Disgaea is usually free of reincarnation. Also, for generics, their reincarnation mana cost doubles with each one. Make 'em count. Story guys stay at 100 though. Once you get those statisticians and managers though, you can go crazy. 
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Well the "stored" levels is what matters and you can reincarnate as often as you want. So it doesn't really hurt. Actually if its like D2/3 you get +5% to each aptitude for the first 5 (up to 25%) for story non generic (story) characters, which can really make early reincarnations overpowered if you have some good gear.
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I really don't have anything special like a legendary testament, managers, or statisticians. This mystery innocent is being really stubborn and to be honest even if i get one statistician I still have no idea how I will turn that into 300. I also have a hard candy that has a Manager in it but honestly mana is not a serious problem right now. [One character has 20,000+]
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pixaal posted:Well the "stored" levels is what matters and you can reincarnate as often as you want. So it doesn't really hurt. Actually if its like D2/3 you get +5% to each aptitude for the first 5 (up to 25%) for story non generic (story) characters, which can really make early reincarnations overpowered if you have some good gear. When is it a good time to reincarnate? I usually reincarnate my generics as soon as the next tier is available.
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Unlucky7 posted:When is it a good time to reincarnate? I usually reincarnate my generics as soon as the next tier is available. Clerics are good for higher healing spells. Brawlers or whatever are good too for getting Big Bang if you need it. Other than that higher tiers usually only give better stats. [This is only D3 knowledge though]
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Dizz posted:I really don't have anything special like a legendary testament, managers, or statisticians. This mystery innocent is being really stubborn and to be honest even if i get one statistician I still have no idea how I will turn that into 300. Don't worry too much about statisticians until you unlock high tier accessories from shopkeepers. High tier accessories usually come with managers so you can work on managers and statisticians at the same time. For the Mystery Innocent, you should try and get either Cat Burglar or Mode Changer unique innocents; those are the real jackpots. Having Puppy Paw acting as an armor really breaks the game.
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Unlucky7 posted:When is it a good time to reincarnate? I usually reincarnate my generics as soon as the next tier is available. I do it instantly, grind for a small period to catch them up enough and then sit back and watch them do triple damage, anyone who completely ignores reincarnating first playthrough or not is a fool, and I pity them. As for hidden skills, all's they have in common is name but a few return name wise, you'll really like Adell though, DLC aside his second unique skill has him use -every- fist attack that was in 2 at once. Also Unkown, what do those two innocents do? I'm familiar with Cat Burglar obviously but no clue what mode changer does.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:In D2: Standing side by side works It won't let you learn those skills, only use them. I had my healer and mage in the same club, and had my mage use heal, but the skill didn't gain any exp, so she couldn't learn it. As for reincarnating, I agree, do it as you unlock new tiers or classes, but I'd personally wait til you have a good grinding spot, I haven't run into one yet, and I'm partway through Chapter 4. And someone at GameFAQs posted a list of innocents and their effects- Stat Boosters (Max 19,998) Dietician - Adds HP Master - Adds SP Gladiator - Adds ATK Sentry - Adds DEF Tutor - Adds INT Coach - Adds SPD Marksman - Adds HIT Physician - Adds RES Dual Stat Boosters (Max 19,998) Muscleman - Adds ATK and HP Sprinter - Adds ATK and SPD Nerd - Adds INT and SP Hard Worker - Adds ATK and INT Patient - Adds DEF and RES Pugilist - Adds ATK and HIT Sniper - Adds HIT and SPD Ailments and Resistances (Max 100) Alchemist - Inflicts Poison upon attack Hypnotist - Inflicts Sleep upon attack Witch Doctor - Inflicts Paralysis upon attack Amnesiac - Inflicts Amnesia upon attack Gangster - Inflicts Deprave upon attack Professional - Inflicts Critical upon attack Pharmacist - Increase Poison resistance Coffee Maker - Increase Sleep resistance Medicine Man - Increase Paralysis resistance Psychologist - Increase Amnesia resistance Social Worker - Increase Deprave resistance Firefighter - Increase Fire resistance Aeronaut - Increase Wind resistance Cryophile - Increase Water resistance Equipment Boosters (Max 500) Fist Fighter - Gain more stats when equipping Fist-type weapon Fencer - Gain more stats when equipping Sword-type weapon Lance - Gain more stats when equipping Spear-type weapon Eros - Gain more stats when equipping Bow-type weapon Deadeye - Gain more stats when equipping Gun-type weapon Lumberjack - Gain more stats when equipping Axe-type weapon Cane Man - Gain more stats when equipping Staff-type weapon Monster Hunter - Gain more stats when equipping Monster-type weapon Guardian - Gain more stats when equipping an armor or accessory Kill Bonuses (Max 300) Broker - Gain more HL upon defeating enemy Statistician - Gain more EXP upon defeating enemy Manager - Gain more Mana upon defeating enemy Mentor - Gain more Skill EXP Other Collector - Shifts item rarity (Fixed Level) Lose-Lose - Increase EXP earned by the attacker who defeats you Fusion Lover - Increase Fusion effect (Max 25) Magichange Lover - Increase Magichange effect (Max 25) Mediator - Creates dual stat booster (Max 100) Teacher - Boosts other specialist by 5% (Max 100) Unique Enforcer - Kicks out unruly Innocents Kinder Gardener - Decreases damage by 50% Berry Picker - Chances of Team Attack become 100% Secret Trainer - Adds 10% to the growth level upon leveling up Chalkboard Scraper - Decreases opponent's accuracy by 80% upon damaging High Spiriter - Heals target's ailment upon a normal attack Glutton - Damage form normal attacks converts to recover effect Punisher - Halves the targets HP when attacked with a normal attack from behind Sweet Tempter - Recover 50% of HP at the end of turn Mana Robber - Obtain 10% of your gained Mana upon a normal attack Cat Burglar - Chance to steal by defeating an enemy with a normal attack All Digger - Inflicts Paralysis with a normal attack from behind Trash Talker - Inflects Poison with a normal attack from behind Sensationalist - Inflicts Deprave with a normal attack from behind Sun Bather - Inflicts Sleep with a normal attack from behind Joke Slapper - Inflicts Amnesia with a normal attack from behind Rubber - Do two normal attacks in a row Wuss - Decreases physical attack damage by 40% Motivator - Decreases magic attack by 40% Town Crier - Adds five more counter attacks Sumo Wrestler - Increase ATK of an ally monster by 20% Hand Shaker - Never misses a target Beggar - Decreases adjacent enemy's stats Partier - Restore HP by the amount of damage caused by Geo fall Mode Changer - Nullify ATK for odd, and MAG for even numbered turns Eraser - Adds a chance for Deathblow when HP is below 25% Killer - Deathblow enemies under 25% SP with normal attack Heart's Shadow - Darkness nesting inside of hearts So Mode Changer is absolutely insane, making you totally invulnerable if you time things right. I never got so far into it as to do the craziness with dual stat specialists and stuff...crazy. Hunter Noventa fucked around with this message at Sep 6, 2011 around 02:20 |
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Unknown_PC posted:For the Mystery Innocent, you should try and get either Cat Burglar or Mode Changer unique innocents; those are the real jackpots. Having Puppy Paw acting as an armor really breaks the game.  You can get cat burglar from a random? Does that mean anyone getting a kill with X item will work like a PPS?v drat, guess I'm going to be save scumming in all my free time now. El Belmondo fucked around with this message at Sep 6, 2011 around 02:26 |
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^^^ Yep!ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Also Unkown, what do those two innocents do? I'm familiar with Cat Burglar obviously but no clue what mode changer does. Mode Changer innocent the same effect as the Chicken Hat in D3. It grants immunity against ATK on odd turns and INT on even turns. Mode Changer is extremely useful if you plan on getting the Tournament mode DLC in the future. You can also abuse Mode Changer to capture maxed out LoC enemies by making yourself immune to base panel damage. If you plan on permanently taking #1 on the leaderboard by maxing out all your stats to 99,999,999, capturing LoC mobs will allow you to max stats without serums. Clearing 80% of the X-Dimension maps, you also get an unique item that comes with the Mode Changer innocent.
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Are these specialist green (untransferable) like in D3
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