Disgaea: normal fantasy SRPGs are too realistic

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Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

PSP's aren't region locked so you can always import the game.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2011 01:24

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 11:41

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Regular amount of mana gained is equal to the level of the enemy killed until level 100. After the enemy is level 100, the amount is penalized at certain level intervals until level 400.
Example:
Level 60 enemy = 60 mana gained
Level 120 enemy = 120/2 = 60 mana gained
Level 300 enemy = 300/2 = 150 mana gained
Level 500 enemy = 500/4 = 125 mana gained
After level 400, the division factor never goes up again so /4 is the highest penalty.

Edit: Also, Prinnies give double mana.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2011 around 05:13

# ¿ Mar 12, 2011 05:08

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

TEGGS posted:

Is there an English release date for Disgaea 4?

Also, is Axel an actual story character or is unlockable like in previous games? Ever since he was introduced in 2 I've had "I will play him and make him godly!" urge.

It's been announced for a Summer 2011 release date in NA. However, the announcement was a while ago and there hasn't been an update of this date since.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2011 11:48

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

I'm up for the DLC sharing. So I'll take the last slot.
1. Baram
2. FrantzX
3. Agnostic watermelon
4. Ornamented Death
5. Zettace

Who's going to be the buyer?
We can save some money if the buyer is in an area with a low tax rate.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2011 around 05:49

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 05:46

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

You can also send they money as a gift.
If you send the money as a gift, paypal will automatically include the fees in the money sent.
Example:
I send $10. Paypal will deduct $10 + fee from my paypal account.

Edit: I live in Canada so my tax is 13%

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 05:57

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

I sent my payment. Sorry for the delay; I stepped away from my computer before you made that post.

Agnostic watermelon posted:

gifted. for some reason Paypal didn't charge me a fee.

You have to send it as a "gift" under the "personal" heading.
Ornamented Death probably only got $9.90 from you due to the fee.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2011 around 06:29

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 06:26

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Agnostic watermelon posted:

Ornamented Death did you get my full $10? I made sure I chose the gift option.

Click on the details to the transactions. In the home page it'll say $10 but the "net amount" in the details should be $10.10.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 06:33

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Edit: Whoops. I'm an idiot who can't read.

Another Edit:

Sanctum posted:

Is there a limit to how much statisticians can increase exp gain?

The limit is the hard cap on how many you can stick on equipment. So at 8 slots per equipment and 4 equipment slots, you can use level statisticians (or another specialists). If these statisticians are all max level then you will get 9600% more exp.

vForgot about the hard cap in Disgaea 1. I guess I really am an idiot.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2011 around 20:26

# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 20:10

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Kin posted:

I just bought Digaea 3, but google mentions some DLC that's out for it. I modded my console though, so i've no access to it. Am i really missing anything? I've read that it's mostly stuff that's already on the disk so i'm not that bothered about it, but i am wondering if it's any good stuff or not.

It adds a quite a few new characters (mainly cameos), adds a whole new chain of voiced story line missions and a few gimmick game modes.

My personal opinion is that it was totally worth $10 (PSN Sharing).

# ¿ Apr 2, 2011 18:57

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

You have to get some statisticians, max them out and fill your item slots with them if your want your levels to jump in the hundreds range.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2011 17:56

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

ErIog posted:

Remember: Max bonus on statisticians is 300, but it does stack with the Exp tiles already on the board. So if I've got the math down you're getting 2x from the tiles and then another 3x from the statisticians for 6x total bonus.

Disgaea 3 removed this cap. The actual cap is now just how many you can fit on your equipment; meaning you can get up to 9600% more exp.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2011 around 19:28

# ¿ Apr 12, 2011 19:26

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

yellowcar posted:

Welp. That really kills my enthusiasm. I think I'll pass on DLC this time around unless a gameshare group pops up. Because thinking about paying $40 bucks again for quite possibly the same DLC doesn't sit well with me.

Same here, I only gameshared the DLC pack for the Rasberyl episodes. It's pretty outrageous what they charge for a single character model and a few lines of voice acting considering it probably costs very little to actually make and they are able to sell the DLC at no extra cost to the company after the initial programming. In my opinion, a character should only be $25 cents at most.

I'm guessing the DLC price increase is because Japan has a stupid system which they use for selling anime where they think they'll make more money by selling it for a high price to a few people rather than selling it cheap to many people.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2011 07:58

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Character levels in Disgaea don't really matter when compared to equipment. Once you get a few maxed out items with max level specialists then even your level 1 characters can destroy anything in it's path. Grinding items is much more beneficial then grinding characters plus equipment can be moved around unlike the level of a character.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2011 00:35

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Is Disgaea 3 you can level a character from level 1 to 9999 in only a few seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se6cdZ-08XM

The time it takes to get to that point is a few hundred hours though.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2011 19:27

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

The price for the Disgaea 4 bundles have been announced.

Normal game is $49.99 USD
Premium is $59.99 USD and comes with a mini-Fuuka figurine and art book.
Super Premium is $119.99 USD and is the Premium bundle plus 9 larger figurines (including another Fuuka).

All (NIS online store preordered?) versions come with a OST as well. Also, Super Premium is a NIS online store exclusive I believe.

Personally, I'm going to get the Premium edition since Super Premium's shipping would make it way too expensive (I live in Canada) and it's already at a very high price point so I'm not willing to spend anymore than $120+tax.

Edit: Fixed some info.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Apr 20, 2011 around 02:56

# ¿ Apr 20, 2011 01:15

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

It seems like you have to preorder the game off the NIS store to get the OST. You might want to keep that in mind but I'm not completely sure.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2011 01:35

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Agnostic watermelon posted:

As much as I always go for the best special edition, I just don't see how 8 figurines is worth the extra $60. Are they some kind of premium action figures or made of expensive material or something?

It's 9 figures plus a mini-Fuuka figure. The mini-figure is part of the premium edition then you get 9 larger figures for the super premium. Figures in general are just expensive.

The figures themselves retailed in Japan for about ~70 USD (or at least that's what the NIS site says as it's retail price). You can pick up the figures for ~4500Yen (~$55USD) off Amazon.jp though. However, shipping makes it more expensive than paying $60 extra for the super premium bundle.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2011 02:43

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

That's really disappointing to hear. I'm probably going to get just the game then.

Edit: It makes sense though. The nendoroid bundle in Japan cost 9500 Yen (More than $100 USD) and the North American Premium bundle only being $60 was a huge giveaway. I should of noticed it earlier.
Also I didn't know that the Nendroid was actually taller then the trading figures (65mm vs 60mm). I guess I was influenced by all the sources calling it a "petit" nendoroid while the trading figures were just called figures.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Apr 20, 2011 around 23:55

# ¿ Apr 20, 2011 23:24

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Statisticians only show up during reverse pirating, I believe.

# ¿ May 11, 2011 02:39

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Grundulum posted:

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by hidden jobs. I've played the first three games, but I don't remember anything called that.

I think he means the classes you have to unlock by having units at certain levels. ie: Ninjas, Star Mages, etc

# ¿ May 11, 2011 21:50

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Coca Koala posted:

Disgaea 1 did, from what I've heard. For whatever reason, it was removed in the Disgaea DS port.

I'm playing Disgaea 3 right now, and I'm feeling like I'm constantly too low on Mana to do anything. I have to spend it to do stuff in the Dark Assembly, I have to spend it to buy skills, I have to spend it to upgrade my skills, and I have to spend it to get evilities.

Should I be trying to conserve my mana and only buying stuff that I really need, or do the enemies past the third chapter give out incredible amounts of mana and I'll just naturally accumulate as much as I need as long as I use my characters?

Take advantage of the club that gives 50% of the mana gained to characters seated next to them. If you surround one of your strong characters with four members of the club then you can easily gain 200% more mana per kill.

# ¿ May 23, 2011 22:11

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Halation posted:

Is the $50 disgaea 3 DLC pack worth it? I'll probably end up getting the alternate story mode and a couple of characters regardless, but that's only about $20-25. I'd be paying almost twice what I paid for the game if I get this thing

It's totally not worth $50 unless you really enjoy getting a whole bunch of characters you'll probably not even use.
However, like someone else said, $10 is a decent price for the whole pack if you gameshare.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2011 21:21

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

When you subdue an innocent, you are now able to move that innocent around to different items as much as you want.
Other things you might want to know about innocents:
-Innocents you subdue double in level.
-Items have at default, 4 innocent slots but this can be increased to 8 if you level up the item in the item world.
-Innocents of the same type can be merged together, up to a certain level, to save on slots.
-"Cloning" innocents is very helpful but you'll need a Puppy Paw Stick (You get one post game).

# ¿ Jun 10, 2011 19:00

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Most innocents have a hard cap and the ones that don't do anything above a certain level are the exception so I wouldn't worry about over leveling just yet. The basic stat upgrade innocents give you full benefits up to their hard cap and those are the ones you should be aiming for early game.

Zettace fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2011 around 19:38

# ¿ Jun 10, 2011 19:32

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

You still need to pass the ninja bill in D3 to unlock the class.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2011 17:55

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Super Fan posted:

I'm playing Hour of Darkness on the PS2.

Have a level 10 male fighter(?)(the fist user) and a level 10 warrior if I recall correctly. There's no bill requirements either.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2011 18:02

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

You need to login to the account to download it but once you do download it, then every account on that PS3 will have access to the DLC as long as:
A)The DLC data is still on the PS3
B)The game share account is not deleted

# ¿ Aug 19, 2011 08:39

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

I find it funny that google translates some of the numbers into their written out forms. Is there really a need to translate numerals into words?
Also, I found "Homo Boar" funny because I have a childish sense of humour

# ¿ Aug 22, 2011 04:10

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Hunter Noventa posted:

I'm fairly sure they'd be shipping it from their California offices, rather than japan.

If he lives outside of the US (most likely Canada) then it will have to go through customs.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 10:09

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

Tenacious J posted:

But once you have such high stats, does it lead to anything? Like, are there encounters that require such power? It would be nice to have a goal like that. If I can one-hit guys when I'm level 5000, why would I bother getting any more powerful?

Disgaea's post story game is the "encounters that require such power". After the story is complete, there are many new options open to you (maxing items in the item world, reverse pirating, defeating Baal, etc) in which you'll regularly meet enemies with levels in the thousands to even max levelled enemies.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 21:37

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 11:41

Zettace: Nov 30, 2009

punchdaily posted:

I believe that you can also make every single enemy in the game level 9999 if you pass enough stronger enemy bills.

To make every enemy level 9999 it probably requires going to the LoC since there is a hard cap on stronger enemy bills.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 22:21

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