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Uber Kosh posted:Guess I'll have to give a month a try and see if I like it. Is there stuff to watch all year? Like Major League/World Series level stuff? we're in spring training right now, which is like major league baseball on quaaludes, but at the end of the month the real season starts. 2,430 major league games will be played over the six months between March and October. Then you get the postseason, but sadly there's nothing on a high level during the other half of the year. Some decent ball is played in the Caribbean winter leagues, and the Australian league is low minors quality from what little I saw, but that's about it. as the hall of famer Rogers Hornsby once said, we all just kinda stare out the window and wait for spring I've been able to catch Japanese baseball on halfway decent streams, usually checking myp2p.eu. i'll keep an eye out for 'em during the season.
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jeffersonlives posted:It makes sense in certain situations. Letting, say, Curtis Granderson hit in an important AB against a RHP that is anything short of one of the best guys in the league is completely insane. He's historically been a great hitter against righties and slightly better than a random pitcher against lefties. You have to have a really great reason not to deploy a LOOGY against him in the big spot. In Baseball Between the Numbers [I have now macro'd this phrase], they point out that most of the time you'd be better off finding the hitters' real weaknesses and pitching to that. So if you're coming up against a right-handed batter who has trouble hitting overhand curves and your pitcher is a lefty who throws an ovehand curve, then there is no reason to bring in a right-handed pitcher.
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e: hurf wrong thread
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This question is in no way relevant to actual baseball games, but it does relate to statistics. I vaguely understand that WAR tells you how many wins a specific player will bring the team when compared to a generic replacement player. My question is whether there is a known win total for a generic team of entirely replacement players. I am curious if this hypothetical team is better than my beloved Pirates.
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some_weird_kid posted:This question is in no way relevant to actual baseball games, but it does relate to statistics. I vaguely understand that WAR tells you how many wins a specific player will bring the team when compared to a generic replacement player. My question is whether there is a known win total for a generic team of entirely replacement players. WARP1: "Wins Above Replacement Player, level 1. The number of wins this player contributed, above what a replacement level hitter, fielder, and pitcher would have done, with adjustments only for within the season. It should be noted that a team which is at replacement level in all three of batting, pitching, and fielding will be an extraordinarily bad team, on the order of 20-25 wins in a 162-game season. WARP is also listed on a player's PECOTA card. The PECOTA WARP listing is designed to correspond to WARP-1, not WARP-2 or WARP-3. ." http://www.baseballprospectus.com/g...W&context=alpha
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I thought a team WAR of 0 = ~.320 winning percentage, or about 52 wins. edit yeah here
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ManifunkDestiny's Link posted:| team_ID | W | L | WAR | W_war | error | W_pyth | drat it.
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I think PECOTA has the Pirates winning 55 games this year, so take heart in that they're better than purely replacement level (maybe). Edit: Those were old numbers I guess and they're at 71 projected wins now. Basically just chillax and try to beat the Astros. Swagger Dagger fucked around with this message at Mar 15, 2011 around 17:53 |
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some_weird_kid posted:This question is in no way relevant to actual baseball games, but it does relate to statistics. I vaguely understand that WAR tells you how many wins a specific player will bring the team when compared to a generic replacement player. My question is whether there is a known win total for a generic team of entirely replacement players. each site that calculates WAR seems to use a slightly different baseline but generally it's in the 45-50 range for a 0 WAR team.
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I CHALLENGE THEE posted:Or you have someone like Jerry Manuel who used Pedro Feliciano as a regular reliever which was so loving dumb I wanted to rip my hair out. His split was like .180 against lefties and .300 something against righties which is probably an egregious example of how managers can negatively effect the game Ah yes, Pedro Feliciano, who actually fit into the LOOGY role but Jerry kept shoving him into The Eighth Inning Guy instead. Boy am I glad Jerry's gone.
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JoePos posted an excellent guide to some hitting stats and a fantastic case for why older stats like batting average are essentially useless. Well worth a look, especially as a reminder that batting average is literally more convoluted and complex than anything SABER people have ever come up with.
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Gee Wizard posted:Is there anything I should know about the team, either in its present form or historically? Are there any negative perceptions of Rockies fans? (Probably not, but I want to make sure I meet them if there are) This is from a while back, but I don't care. I've been following them for a few years but rarely get outside of the region so I don't get a lot of outside perspective (aside from Cubs fans.) What are the common perceptions, if any, of Cardinals and White Sox fans? The only thing that comes to mind readily is a Cards' fan burning hatred of management. FAKE EDIT: and the rest of staff, and about half the roster, now that I think about it. Also this has nothing to do with anything but I noticed some of the other Cards fans are in this thread so I thought I'd ask - does anyone happen to have the GIF of Rick Ankiel knocking himself out on the center field wall from a few years back? I CHALLENGE THEE posted:HOWEVER I don't feel badly for the Cardinals at all considering some of the money they've thrown around. If you know that your superstar, once in a generation talent is nearing free agency, you don't overpay for Matt Holliday and then cry poverty two years later. I thought the problem wasn't the cash (which the Cards could pay) but the length of the contract. oystertoadfish posted:I've been able to catch Japanese baseball on halfway decent streams, usually checking myp2p.eu. i'll keep an eye out for 'em during the season. How is there no Japanese Baseball following on SAS? Seems like there'd be a thread.
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With Bonds and Clemens gone I'm wondering who are some similarly disliked current players in the league? I'm guessing A-Rod but I don't know many others.
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Adam Glasser posted:With Bonds and Clemens gone I'm wondering who are some similarly disliked current players in the league? You mean by players or the media? I'm sure that Pierzynski is hated by almost everyone in MLB, but he's not high profile enough for the media to really care about. I don't know, I guess outside of A-Rod and a couple "team cancer" types there's no one the media really gets on right now, certainly not on the level of Clemens or Bonds.
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JD Drew is a guy who gets a lot of flack from players and media. I think most of the guys he's played with have good things to say about him, but around the league he's generally not respected a lot. Kevin Youkilis and Joba Chamberlain are also disliked by players, largely because they're both big babies who don't handle failure well.
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Joba doesn't do anything when he fails, but he gets real excited when he doesn't gently caress up. Youk, on the other hand, is a big whiny baby about everything.
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Adam Glasser posted:With Bonds and Clemens gone I'm wondering who are some similarly disliked current players in the league? No way, Arod is awesome. He's some sort of manly-yet-prissy, rule-breaking, natural talent, media whore phenomenon and it rules. People shouldn't hate Arod.
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manny ramirez is still around, he's sort of disliked and liked at the same time
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Badfinger posted:No way, Arod is awesome. They shouldn't, but they do. AJ Pierzynksi still plays, I don't know anyone that likes him except some White Sox fans.
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AJ Pierzynski ranks right below Scott Spezio in the ranks of players I actively hate. It's not a very long list, though, I rarely begrudge individual players as much as I do teams.
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Grozz Nuy posted:AJ Pierzynski ranks right below Scott Spezio in the ranks of players I actively hate. It's not a very long list, though, I rarely begrudge individual players as much as I do teams.
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JediGandalf posted:What draws everyones ire about AJ? Didn't he sucker-punch a Cub a few years ago or something?
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barkingclam posted:Didn't he sucker-punch a Cub a few years ago or something? I think he got punched. Also, he pretty much just has a tremendously bad reputation as a complete dick. And has a very punchable face.
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He also loving sucked as a Giant and wholly disproved the "You'd LOVE AJ if he played for your team!" theory because I hated him even more when he played for mine. Seriously. His B-R WAR was exactly a 0.0 and he was just a dick to the media.
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The Prisoner posted:and he was just a dick to the media. You say this like it's a bad thing.
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ozymandius1024 posted:You say this like it's a bad thing. But still. He's an asshat. He wouldn't sign a ball for me and I was 11 years old during his Giants tenure. 
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barkingclam posted:Didn't he sucker-punch a Cub a few years ago or something? He got sucked punched by Michael Barrett
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Angels fans hate AJ for the 2005 playoffs, though that was way more the ump's fault. He is one of those guys, despite what The Prisoner says, that everyone hates if he's not on your team. But if he is...AJ owns  Giants fans boo'd him heavily today in the Sox/Giants spring training game, for what it's worth. Twins fans also give him a ton of poo poo whenever they play. angrygodofjebus fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2011 around 23:15 |
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Maybe it's just because I don't really pay attention to the media, but outside of the Cubs fight the only thing people seem to really hate AJ for on the White Sox is that whole ALCS Game 2 thing. edit - beaten
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angrygodofjebus posted:Giants fans boo'd him heavily today in the Sox/Giants spring training game, for what it's worth. Twins fans also give him a ton of poo poo whenever they play. Giants fans really really hate him because the Giants traded away a ton of players to get him (that was the Boof-Liriano-Nathan trade, right?), and then he was completely loving terrible to the point that they didn't even try to sign him after his contract expired. And he was apparently an rear end to everyone. And this is on a team that had Barry and was a year away from Kent so it's not like they had tremendously high standards. And he has a very punchable face.
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No one likes JD Drew either, but for the completely wrong reasons
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I figured people hated JD Drew because of the draft stuff where he wouldn't report to whatever team selected him originally. Was it the Phillies? That was a huge story back then
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The Prisoner posted:He also loving sucked as a Giant and wholly disproved the "You'd LOVE AJ if he played for your team!" theory because I hated him even more when he played for mine. Seriously. His B-R WAR was exactly a 0.0 and he was just a dick to the media. Best trade ever
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BIZORT posted:I figured people hated JD Drew because of the draft stuff where he wouldn't report to whatever team selected him originally. Was it the Phillies? That was a huge story back then Yeah. Then he got drafted by the Cardinals and signed there, and LaRussa didn't like him either lol
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Best trade ever Nope, that'd be Wainwright for JD Drew and Eli Marrero
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One Sick Puppy posted:Nope, that'd be Wainwright for JD Drew and Eli Marrero that wasn't so bad for either side though, the braves got Drew's one undeniably great season 
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BIZORT posted:I figured people hated JD Drew because of the draft stuff where he wouldn't report to whatever team selected him originally. Was it the Phillies? That was a huge story back then Yep, Drew & Boras wanted $10 million, the Phils had no intention of paying him that much and drafted him anyway. Failed to sign and then ran off to the Northern League. Hence the battery throwing and booing when he showed up at the Vet in a Cards uniform for the first time.
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enuma elish posted:Giants fans really really hate him because the Giants traded away a ton of players to get him (that was the Boof-Liriano-Nathan trade, right?), and then he was completely loving terrible to the point that they didn't even try to sign him after his contract expired. And he was apparently an rear end to everyone. And this is on a team that had Barry and was a year away from Kent so it's not like they had tremendously high standards. Just to elaborate, Pierzynski not only played like poo poo while he was on the Giants but also trashed the rest of the team, the fans, and the city itself at basically every opportunity. I know SAS doesn't put much stock in 'clubhouse cancer' stuff and rightfully so, but Pierzynski legitimately took absolutely every chance he had to act like a complete prick while he was on the team. I believe that the Barrett incident happened during this time as well. He was the last and by far the most disastrous attempt to find The Last Missing Piece during the Bonds era. And just so you don't think we're exaggerating how badly the whole thing went over, when the Giants played the Sox last week Zito lost control of a curveball and nearly hit Pierzynski in the face. The Giants fans in the crowd cheered, and Giants fans do not normally find reasons to cheer for Barry Zito. This is also why I find myself gritting my teeth involuntarily whenever a Twins fan here complains about Liriano or Nathan.
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SporkOfTruth posted:Yep, Drew & Boras wanted $10 million, the Phils had no intention of paying him that much and drafted him anyway. Failed to sign and then ran off to the Northern League. It always seemed to me that the Phillies were also at fault here for drafting a Boras guy who had openly stated that he was only going to sign for $10m while having no intention whatsoever of paying him that money. And it's not like they didn't get another compensation pick in the first round next year, right? I mean, I get why the fans hated him and stuff because it was a big story, but I fail to see how that was the fault of one party over the other, in the end. And check out parts of Three Nights in August (even though it's a loving awful book and I don't recommend it) if you're curious about why La Russa hates Drew for incredibly stupid reasons. Basically, TLR felt that Drew was playing below his "natural talent level", and as such was selling himself short by only putting up a 124 OPS+ while he was with the Cardinals. See, Drew had enough talent to be the next Stan Musial or something, so he was a huge disappointment because TLR felt that he should have worked even harder than he already did. Despite the fact that, y'know, the next Stan Musial was already playing for the Cardinals in the person of Albert Pujols. There was also the insinuation that Drew was "soft" for not playing through more injuries. This reputation has followed Drew around ever since, and as far as I can tell it is almost entirely because he shows very little emotion while playing the game, so fans (and some coaches, apparently) seem to interpret this as him not trying hard enough. I'm really glad that he wound up in Boston, because despite getting the same general reaction from the fans he at least has an FO and coaching staff that understands and appreciates both his talents and limitations. I think it's great that they give him the rest and days off he needs to stay healthy in Boston, too. It's not a coincidence that prior to coming here, he had literally missed significant playing time every other season he played, whereas over the last five seasons (in Boston) he has played ~140 games every year except '08 when he only reached 109.
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Tiny Torso posted:that wasn't so bad for either side though, the braves got Drew's one undeniably great season The Braves thought they could re-sign him, so they weren't pleased. Then they went and did a similar thing with Teixeira having not learned their Boras lesson the first time 
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