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Papelbon is a pretty despised character. Ozzie Guillen is polarizing, too.
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Nodoze posted:He got sucked punched by Michael Barrett They were jawing face-to-face, it was hardly a *sucker* punch. 
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Grozz Nuy posted:Just to elaborate, Pierzynski not only played like poo poo while he was on the Giants but also trashed the rest of the team, the fans, and the city itself at basically every opportunity. Ownage. I literally support baseball players being trolls 100%. I heard a story about him kneeing some trainer in the groin in SF or something like that, and that's not cool, but not caring about the fans or the city is unironically really really cool and funny. Abel Wingnut posted:Papelbon is a pretty despised character. Ozzie Guillen is polarizing, too. The only legitimately offensive thing I can recall coming from Ozzie was the Jay Mariotti fag comment which it was pretty clear wasn't homophobic or anything it was just a bad choice of words to be saying to the public. Whether he's a good manager can be polarizing but Ozzie is a big hilarious goofball no matter who you are! Medical Sword fucked around with this message at Mar 17, 2011 around 06:03 |
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Yeah, I think people put Ozzie in a "Manny being Manny" type of deal for the most part.
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A drat FOG posted:Ownage. I literally support baseball players being trolls 100%. I can see how it's cool to not care about the fans or the city. If baseball is just a job or whatever, you know, good for you. AJ Pierzynski is just a tremendous dickhead, and alienated not just the city and the fans but his teammates and the training staff. Like, if you want to treat it like a job and be a JD Drew, cool. Coaches hating him for that is dumb. But I don't think that's really what AJ Pierzynski does.
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Grozz Nuy posted:I believe that the Barrett incident happened during this time as well.
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I am Bob posted:Yeah, I think people put Ozzie in a "Manny being Manny" type of deal for the most part. While I agree with this and think MannyBManny owns, lots of people hate Manny for being Manny.
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Nodoze posted:They shouldn't, but they do. AJ Pierzynksi still plays, I don't know anyone that likes him except some White Sox fans. and Several More Suspects Arrested For Trying To Kill Unbearable Pierzynski followed by Pierzynski Missing, Last Seen Entering Hospital's Trash Compactor Or, if you prefer, MLB Round Up: Dustin Pedroia Spends Offseason Working To Become An Even Bigger Prick Magicmat fucked around with this message at Mar 17, 2011 around 13:08 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:While I agree with this and think MannyBManny owns, lots of people hate Manny for being Manny. See, like with Arod, I feel these people are painfully misguided. Besides that there are clearly people that love Manny, Ozzie, etc. Polarizing is definitely different than universally reviled.
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Badfinger posted:See, like with Arod, I feel these people are painfully misguided. The first is definitely true, but I really don't think that anyone is/was universally reviled. Albert Belle would be one but Albert Belle loving owned so I personally gently caress that up. Sheffield? I feel like nobody liked him by the end.
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AJ was great when he was on Monday Night RAW with Bob Barker doing a Price is Right bit. Not making that up.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The first is definitely true, but I really don't think that anyone is/was universally reviled. That's true. I guess maybe the "vast majority"? Even Barry Bonds. The media despise him. I think he's a dick and a half but like me I'm pretty sure the majority of people reading this thread are all over Barry Bonds' baseball-playing junk. SF Giants fans love him, too.
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Barry Bonds owns, Roger Clemens owns. The only players I really hate are Curt Schilling and Javier Vazquez. There are a couple others, but I can't think of them now. Not sure how I initially forgot about Schilling, but not many people like him either.
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Youk is a pretty big prick.
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Jeff Kent was a loving jagoff. Is there seriously anyone who actually likes him? I mean aside from "I respect that you were a 2B who could mash." Nodoze, lots of Sox fans and hyperconservatives love Schilling's antics.
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One Sick Puppy posted:Nope, that'd be Wainwright for JD Drew and Eli Marrero Mark Mulder for Dan Haren, Daric Barton, and Kiko Calero. Every single one of those players put up a higher WAR in Oakland than Mulder did in STL.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Jeff Kent was a loving jagoff. Is there seriously anyone who actually likes him? I mean aside from "I respect that you were a 2B who could mash." What is a "jagoff?"
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ManifunkDestiny posted:I thought a team WAR of 0 = ~.320 winning percentage, or about 52 wins. Yeah, there are different ways of calculating WAR. what I pasted was based on how BP does it. Also, the different MLB threads are starting to morph into each other. I actually thought I was in the N/V thread because of all the A.J. talk. tadashi fucked around with this message at Mar 17, 2011 around 16:48 |
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The broken bones posted:Youk is a pretty big prick. I don't really get this. I mean, I see why some people dislike him because he looks pretty disgusting and tends to get emotional during games, but he's generally cordial, polite, and by-the-book in his interviews and real-life endeavors. He's active in charities and community work, none of his teammates really talk poo poo about him (he got into a fight with Manny once but they're just like polar opposite personalities so whatever) and he doesn't talk poo poo in public. He's obviously really easy to mock and make fun of, what with his batting stance, facial hair, and on-field demeanor. Is he a prick because he charged the mound that one time, or because he gets visibly upset when he strikes out on occasion? Now Curt Schilling is a total prick and a weirdo, absolutely. That I completely get.
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Nyjer Morgan probably isn't the most popular player in the NL East.
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Imasalmon posted:What is a "jagoff?" pgh for "rear end in a top hat" but it definitely has roots in "jerk off"
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SAS is united in its hatred of white players.
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kaworu posted:Is he a prick because he charged the mound that one time, or because he gets visibly upset when he strikes out on occasion? yes. His hissy fits are hilarious too
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he whines about pitches and generally has that demeanor
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oystertoadfish posted:he whines about pitches and generally has that demeanor an 'urban' demeanor?
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I dunno I just think don't think that because someone plays baseball emotionally at times that it necessarily makes them a bad person, and having watched Youkilis for years I think people have a really overblown opinion of him. Not that I really care because he does all the things you guys are saying to a certain extent, but in interviews and stuff he really comes across as a cool and down to earth guy who is a lot more intelligent than your average baseball player. Dustin Pedroia is WAY more of a prick than Youkilis for example, although he's kind of funny about it so that helps make up for it I guess.
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Youk's head looks like a sweaty thumb
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Dustin Pedroia doesn't seem like the guy to throw his helmet at a 20 year old rookie e: but to his credit he doesn't seem to give much of a poo poo where he plays or bats, if it's to help the rest of the team SWITCH HITLER fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2011 around 02:06 |
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Politicalrancor posted:Youk's head looks like a sweaty thumb Yeah he's probably one of the most unattractive human beings I've ever had the displeasure of having to look at, he's honestly beyond hideous and doesn't have a single redeeming feature on his face. But honestly, I find it all so loving funny because it still goes back to the Moneyball thing, and the old-timey scouts notion of "the good face". How scouts love these square-jawed perfectly built good-looking guys with amazing bodies and tremendous athletic ability. And then a guy like Youk who is fat and squat and ugly and balding with a really bad body and no real athleticism was able to get drafted in the 8th round by the Sox and go on to be one of the best hitters in the AL - he was of course mentioned prominently in Moneyball for these exact reasons before he even got to AAA. And despite all of this even stat geeks like us who properly understand his talent still have this natural aversion to him in part because he's so loving tough to look at. DONT READ THIS POST posted:Dustin Pedroia doesn't seem like the guy to throw his helmet at a 20 year old rookie Eh, give him a few years. I'm basing my perception of them mostly on interviews and stuff, Pedroia come across as incredibly hot-headed and pissy, it's just funny because he seems to have a sense of humor about it all whereas Youk is pretty serious most of the time. kaworu fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2011 around 02:07 |
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Youk is cool because he hit a foul ball to his brother. And because of Francona's "Greek God" comment
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Arctic Baldwin posted:And because of Francona's "Greek God" comment
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I think Francona's comment was "I've seen him in the shower, and he's not the Greek god of anything" or something to that effect. The Greek God of Walks was Michael Lewis' coinage I thought.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's a drat good line
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been a goon for a while but just getting back into baseball after a long hiatus (the strike...). this thread is a real keeper. thanks for the info guys.
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he1ixx posted:been a goon for a while but just getting back into baseball after a long hiatus (the strike...). this thread is a real keeper. thanks for the info guys. Good to have you back. What team are you a fan of? The strike blew, but unless you were a 'Spos fan (  ) the pain should be pretty well deadened by about two decades of loving awesome baseball.
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The 94 strike didn't really bother me all that much (I was still really young though) but the threatened work stoppage in the early 00s (that got resolved at like the very last second) would have literally killed me. A lot of people forget that one for whatever reason but what I remember from it was that it was a lot worse than 94 and if it went through it probably would have been the end of baseball as we know it
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Good to have you back. What team are you a fan of? i've been following the phillies since i was a kid. it was an on-and-off thing for a while but it's one of those things that's always there. my dad is one of those grumbling types who complained about howard and co. all the way to the world series. my girlfriend has taken an interest in baseball this year so i'm trying to capitalize on it, if you get my drift. want to organize some trips to see the mets (she used to live in nyc), orioles and nats since they're all pretty close. i'm over the whole strike thing but i still have trouble getting over the whole mcguire/sosa homerun race bs. that event, and the obvious steroid use (oh no, he said that word again) put a sour taste in my mouth for a while. eh, anyway. in for a penny, in for a pound -- i got mlb.tv and plan on watching a fuckton of baseball this year, cthulhu-willing.
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he1ixx posted:my girlfriend has taken an interest in baseball this year so i'm trying to capitalize on it, if you get my drift. want to organize some trips to see the mets (she used to live in nyc), orioles and nats since they're all pretty close. Two of my friends and I did a Mets/Phillies/O's/Nats road trip that was about 7 or 8 days long. Be sure to hit the Museum of Dentistry in Baltimore.
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TUS posted:Two of my friends and I did a Mets/Phillies/O's/Nats road trip that was about 7 or 8 days long. Be sure to hit the Museum of Dentistry in Baltimore. Mutter Museum in Philly, as well as the Geppi Comic Museum in Baltimore are two must sees if you're doing an odd vacation trip.
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You are obligated to hit up the Babe Ruth Museum in Baltimore, it's really neat.
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