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They should have done a take where he actually throws it for a strike.
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Important thing to remember about balks: there are like some technical rules, arguably, but what it boils down to is that the ump can essentially call a balk at any time.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Important thing to remember about balks: there are like some technical rules, arguably, but what it boils down to is that the ump can essentially call a balk at any time. I remember reading in a book, I think it might have been one of the books by former umpire Ron Luciano, about how one spring they tried literally putting "balk lines" on the pitchers mound but gave it up because a lot of guys went over the line with every pitch.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Important thing to remember about balks: there are like some technical rules, arguably, but what it boils down to is that the ump can essentially call a balk at any time. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/vid...363395&c_id=cws
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angrygodofjebus posted:http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/vid...363395&c_id=cws Goodness Angel Hernandez and Joe West on the same crew?
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I CHALLENGE THEE posted:Goodness Angel Hernandez and Joe West on the same crew? And they still are this year!
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angrygodofjebus posted:http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/vid...363395&c_id=cws Remains Hawk Harrelson's finest hour
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Important thing to remember about balks: there are like some technical rules, arguably, but what it boils down to is that the ump can essentially call a balk at any time. Balk : Baseball :: Travelling : Basketball
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DaFuente posted:Balk : Baseball :: Travelling : Basketball ::Holding : Football
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Pornography: Supreme Court
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Here's a question. Today the Angels had men on 1st and 3rd with no outs, and Kendrick grounded into a double play (2nd and 1st) that was able to score the runner. Why does this not count as an RBI? Why is it scored differently from say, an RBI fly ball or an RBI ground out? Just because it resulted in 2 outs? Was it because of the error that allowed the lead runner to advance to 3rd? How often do games end without a single RBI being scored? http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/inde...mlb_1&mode=wrap!/box
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It's because he hit into a double play. The thinking is that you shouldn't reward the player for making two outs on the play just because a run happened to score.
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The Goog posted:It's because he hit into a double play. The thinking is that you shouldn't reward the player for making two outs on the play just because a run happened to score. RBI gets more terrible every time I learn more about it.
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Good Dog posted:Here's a question. Today the Angels had men on 1st and 3rd with no outs, and Kendrick grounded into a double play (2nd and 1st) that was able to score the runner. Why does this not count as an RBI? Why is it scored differently from say, an RBI fly ball or an RBI ground out? Just because it resulted in 2 outs? Was it because of the error that allowed the lead runner to advance to 3rd? Goog is kind of right on this one. Basically it boils down to not rewarding a player for forcing another player on his team to be out. In the case of a sacrifice, a player isn't negatively rewarded for an act that's giving ones at-bat up in order to give the team an advantage. In the case of a fielder's choice, he'll get the RBI, because while they view the force out of the other runner as a negative act, the batter will at replace him on the basepaths. So it's basically a push. He's still punished by not getting credit for a sacrifice though. For a force double play, both a runner and batter are out due to the batter, so the batter won't get the RBI. (Or a reverse force double play)* The key word is force. If by chance, in the situation that you listed, Kendrick hit a deep fly ball that was caught, and the runner at third tagged up and scored, but the runner at first didn't tag/overslid second/any other baserunning blunder and was out on the outfield assist...Kendrick would have still been credited for a RBI. Even though it was a double play. (It would probably be ruled a Sac Fly as well). This is because the out was on the onus of the baserunner, and not the batter. *(It also only has to be a force-DP or a reverse-force DP for it to not count as a RBI. The force being the typical 6-4-3 DP or something similar, the reverse would be something like a 3-6, where the batter is forced out and the runner is tagged after the batter has forced him to advance)
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Real hurthling! posted:RBI gets more terrible every time I learn more about it. You've just been Chadwick'd 
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The Goog posted:It's because he hit into a double play. The thinking is that you shouldn't reward the player for making two outs on the play just because a run happened to score. Do you get and RBI for a not forced double play like a sac fly where the runner on third gets home and the runner on second gets gunned down at third?
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Dusseldorf posted:Do you get and RBI for a not forced double play like a sac fly where the runner on third gets home and the runner on second gets gunned down at third?
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Dusseldorf posted:Do you get and RBI for a not forced double play like a sac fly where the runner on third gets home and the runner on second gets gunned down at third? MLB Rules 10.04 posted:The official scorer shall not credit a run batted in There's a RBI as long as the runner is moving of his own accord.
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Toffile posted:There's a RBI as long as the runner is moving of his own accord. I have never heard the term "reverse-force double play". That's awesome.
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Toffile posted:There's a RBI as long as the runner is moving of his own accord. I thought an error on a DP attempt meant the RBI was credited since you can't assume the double play. Does it make a difference if it's a throwing error on the second baseman as opposed to a catching error on the first baseman?
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Here's my secret newbie question: What the gently caress is a "Texas Leaguer"?
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Here's my secret newbie question: AA minor league ball player playing in the Texas League. Teams in the league hail from MO, OK, AR, and TX with Texas teams being the majority, hence the name. VVV also that.
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Here's my secret newbie question: Bloop hit that falls between an infielder and an outfielder
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Toffile posted:There's a RBI as long as the runner is moving of his own accord. The official rulebook uses the word "muffs"?
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Here's my secret newbie question: Stolen from Wikipedia: The term "Texas Leaguer" is often attributed to the debut of Ollie Pickering, either in the majors or the Texas League, who came to bat and proceeded to run off a string of seven straight bloop hits.
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I enjoy knowing and using those phrases, it's like being a Mason with a crypto-language. And it's interesting how it changes. All I hear now about homeruns is "dropping bombs" and while "hitting" bombs was common, now it's "dropping" bombs. The word I like for a guy that just hits singles is "judy", sometimes "punch and judy" but just "judy" will do as in, "guy's such a loving banjo hitter, what a judy, 4 years in the bigs and guy's never dropped a bomb and never will."
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:Here's my secret newbie question: I will put it in language you are familiar with It is a ducksnort
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Nodoze posted:I will put it in language you are familiar with Hahahahahaha I could have just used Google but I figured, y'know, spirit of the thread. To be honest, I don't see it used that often. Mostly in WIS.
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Holy crap, wikipedia has an entire baseball glossary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball For example: double parked A pitcher who is getting a lot of quick outs. Implies that he has parked his car illegally and is trying to get back to it and avoid a ticket, and this is why he is keen to get outs quickly
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Badfinger posted:Holy crap, wikipedia has an entire baseball glossary. I think that was a Red Barber thing. Red Barber made up a lot of poo poo that somehow became colloquial baseball terminology, like catbird seat.
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The broken bones posted:I think that was a Red Barber thing. Red Barber made up a lot of poo poo that somehow became colloquial baseball terminology, like catbird seat. That would make sense, Vin says it all the time.
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e: wrong thread
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The broken bones posted:I think that was a Red Barber thing. Red Barber made up a lot of poo poo that somehow became colloquial baseball terminology, like catbird seat. Barbers wiki entry has a bunch of them he's credited with introducing.
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Haha "goes yard" is credited to Camden Yards I uh think it might have been around before that, Wikipedia.
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laser show A batting performance with a high number of base hits, particularly line drives. Popularized by Dustin Pedroia of the Boston Red Sox.
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Here goes my dignity....... 1. Whats a pinch hitter? 2. What's slugging percentage? 3. How do you evaluate a prospect in the minor leagues? I imagine that players can produce in the minors,but how do evaluate actual potential for a hitter or pitcher? 4. I understand how athleticism helps on defense, but does it help on offense outside of running and stealing bases? I'm headed to the Nationals' double header Saturday so I'm sure I'll have some more questions to come.
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commy gun posted:1. Whats a pinch hitter? A player that is substituted into the game for a player next up in the batting order. commy gun posted:2. What's slugging percentage? Total bases / AB, or alternately (1B + 2B * 2 + 3B * 3 + HR * 4)/AB. It's a decent measure of power. commy gun posted:3. How do you evaluate a prospect in the minor leagues? I imagine that players can produce in the minors,but how do evaluate actual potential for a hitter or pitcher? This really is way too complex a question for a short blurb, but here goes anyway. Prospects are typically evaluated on projection - skills, tools, etc. A lot of people focus solely on upside, which leads to everyone hilariously overrating their own prospects on the two percent chance that said prospect might be the next big thing. Stats are more useful in the high minors than the low minors and for hitters than pitchers, but need to be put in league/park/age context to be useful at all anyway. commy gun posted:4. I understand how athleticism helps on defense, but does it help on offense outside of running and stealing bases? Swinging a bat is itself inherently an athletic move, even if some of the people who do it well don't look all that athletic.
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jeffersonlives posted:This really is way too complex a question for a short blurb, but here goes anyway. Prospects are typically evaluated on projection - skills, tools, etc. A lot of people focus solely on upside, which leads to everyone hilariously overrating their own prospects on the two percent chance that said prospect might be the next big thing. Stats are more useful in the high minors than the low minors and for hitters than pitchers, but need to be put in league/park/age context to be useful at all anyway. When Im feeling lazy about evaluating a player, I look at their stats, and if they're really good major league stats, I look at how how old they are and how long those stats have been sustained. If im feeling good, I check out the league factors of the league they are playing in. Sometimes I make incorrect assumptions, but it gets you through the day.
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commy gun posted:2. What's slugging percentage? It's an average of how many bases a player gains each at bat. A perfect slugging percentage would be 4.000, hitting a home run every time at bat. Most players have a slugging percentage between .350 and .550.
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jeffersonlives posted:A player that is substituted into the game for a player next up in the batting order.
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