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Ooh, here's the reverse of that. Who's the best hitter ever? John Paciorek, brother of Tom and Jim, has a grand total of 5 major league plate appearances (for Houston in 1963, one game). 3 singles, 2 walks. Anyone else never ever make an out in that many times up?
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Billy Beane's favorite is Eddie Gaedel.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Ooh, here's the reverse of that. Who's the best hitter ever? John Paciorek, brother of Tom and Jim, has a grand total of 5 major league plate appearances (for Houston in 1963, one game). 3 singles, 2 walks. Anyone else never ever make an out in that many times up? That looks to be the only 5-5 career in history. I know that if Verlander goes 0-4 in his first interleague game next year, he'll become the worst hitter of all time. Mark your calendars! 
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Terrorism
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:I thought his deal was that he threw hard and one year he stranded a million runners as a reliever, so everybody thought he had "figured it out." He at least posted an ERA+ of 100 or better every year of his career until the Cardinals decided it would be a good idea to turn him into a starter in 2007. He certainly wasn't good, but he wasn't completely terrible either.
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Combo posted:He at least posted an ERA+ of 100 or better every year of his career until the Cardinals decided it would be a good idea to turn him into a starter in 2007. He certainly wasn't good, but he wasn't completely terrible either. I remamber with Milwaukee the only reason he posted a decent W-L record is because he lead the league in run support.
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Blooper is pretty much the definition of "innings eater". An above-average (but not good) 80 IP in relief or a below-average (but not bad) 200 IP as a starter.
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Can one sacrifice fly to foul territory?
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Abel Wingnut posted:Can one sacrifice fly to foul territory? Yeah, if it's deep enough.
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CraigK posted:Yeah, if it's deep enough. Or anywhere, if you're in Oakland.
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Question. Buster Olney tweeted this a few minutes ago:@Buster_ESPN posted:Pirates' pitching more than a half run in ERA better than any other NL Central team (http://t.co/v2Twjyx). So yeah, they're for real. I replied back: @dshban posted:Except their xFIP is 3.98, with the Brewers at 3.50, the Cardinals at 3.77 and the Astros at 3.88. His reply: @Buster_ESPN posted:So if th Pirates win the division, will you say they were lucky, or that the sample size was too small? Either way: They won't care. And finally: @dshban posted:I'd say that they were lucky, but be absolutely thrilled about it. Did I use xFIP correctly here? And what's the answer to Buster's question in his reply to me?
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The Giants were the luckiest team last year. The team that wins the World Series is almost always the luckiest team in baseball that year. The Pirates are absolutely getting lucky. That doesn't mean that they're actually bad, or that you shouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't have said that the Brewers will get luckier, but they're more likely to have better pitching the rest of the way.
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Guess being negative is my thing now, but the Pirates are absolutely getting lucky and are an inferior team to the Cards, Brewers, and Reds. You should enjoy it though, and you have a grasp on what's going on so you shouldn't be floored when Jeff Karstens starts being Jeff Karstens again
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dshban posted:Did I use xFIP correctly here? And what's the answer to Buster's question in his reply to me?
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When there's two outs with either bases loaded or runners on first and second why is the ball always thrown to first base when the third baseman or short stop catches it? Last night I saw Ty Wiggington at third throw to Helton at first who lost it in the sun and when all he had to do was reach out his arm to tag the runner right in front of him.
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Kimasu v2.0 posted:When there's two outs with either bases loaded or runners on first and second why is the ball always thrown to first base when the third baseman or short stop catches it? Last night I saw Ty Wiggington at third throw to Helton at first who lost it in the sun and when all he had to do was reach out his arm to tag the runner right in front of him. Because the runners on base make a faster break from the bag than the batter does out of the box. Going to 1st is always the right play with 2 outs.
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dshban posted:
More or less. Team xFIP probably has more confounding factors that should be taken into consideration than xFIP for an individual player, but when you look at each guy in the staff it's obvious there is a lot of good fortune propelling them right now, so yeah. Buster Olney doesn't give that stuff the time of day though, usually.
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The Prisoner posted:I think you held up very well. Nothing you said is invalid and as all of it is absolutely correct. The Pirates are lucky as poo poo right now and not a better team than the Brew Crew or Cards, both of whom are probably underperforming, and I'm sure that can be supported with numbers by someone more savvy with these things. I know it's not exactly the most scientific analysis, but I decided to take a look at in-division meetings so far; most notably how many times the Pirates, Brewers, Reds, and Cardinals have played Houston and Chicago. code:
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Kimasu v2.0 posted:When there's two outs with either bases loaded or runners on first and second why is the ball always thrown to first base when the third baseman or short stop catches it? Last night I saw Ty Wiggington at third throw to Helton at first who lost it in the sun and when all he had to do was reach out his arm to tag the runner right in front of him. With two outs, you go for the force play to first, unless the ball is hit hard to a base. You need to make the quickest sure out in order to prevent the runner on third from scoring. Tag plays frequently end in rundowns, which is more than enough time to stall and get a run in. Usually, the fastest out is at first, since as Moth said, the runners on base are able to break and also get a leadoff the bag. The batter probably be the last one to start running and has to cover the most distance. Though if Wiggington were playing on the line, he might be able to just quickly run to third and get the force there. (I haven't seen the play so I'm assuming it was a bit wide of the foul line)
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This is the play I'm referring to. After watching the replay myself, I see what you mean about having to get the out quickly. The runner on third is already halfway home by the time Wigginton has the ball, and he's not on the line to he can't just step on third. It makes sense to throw home, but at the time it seemed like he could just stick his arm out and touch the runner who was on second, because that runner pretty much has to stop and change course to avoid running into Wiggington.
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Wigginton was probably concentrating more on catching the ball than on where the runner was. He had probably already made up his mind to go to first as soon as the ball was hit.
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As a Pirates fan, anyone who doesn't think the Pirates are a very bad baseball team is delusional. That said, their offense has probably underperformed, and its regression to the mean may balance out the starters' a little bit. Let's Go The Bucs Bitch.
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Oodles of Wootles posted:Wigginton was probably concentrating more on catching the ball than on where the runner was. He had probably already made up his mind to go to first as soon as the ball was hit. Pretty much. Back in little league, I played a lot of 3B. One of the first things they taught was if there's 2 out and you field a ground ball, always throw to 1st.
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dshban posted:Question. Buster Olney tweeted this a few minutes ago: haha nice job "Max from Melbourne", you got mentioned on the Keith Law/Eric Karabell Baseball Today podcast at about 16 mins in.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:haha nice job "Max from Melbourne", you got mentioned on the Keith Law/Eric Karabell Baseball Today podcast at about 16 mins in. I actually really liked this discussion. "The Giants offense couldn't wax a car right now" is also a pretty good line.
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sweets posted:I actually really liked this discussion. "The Giants offense couldn't wax a car right now" is also a pretty good line. Hey, we're not the worst in the majors anymore! Just 26th
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Grozz Nuy posted:Hey, we're not the worst in the majors anymore! Who's worse? A's, Padres, Nats, and M's?
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Toffile posted:Who's worse? A's, Padres, Nats, and M's? M's, Padres, A's, Twins, by wOBA. The Twins are actually better when park-adjusted, though, I guess. e: Fun fact: only nine teams have a wRC+ of at least 100.
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Toffile posted:Who's worse? A's, Padres, Nats, and M's? In terms of runs scored: Padres, Dodgers, A's, and Mariners. By wOBA: Mariners, Padres, A's, and Twins.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:haha nice job "Max from Melbourne", you got mentioned on the Keith Law/Eric Karabell Baseball Today podcast at about 16 mins in. I know, I was so thrilled!
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How are defensive stats like Total Zone or UZR applied to old games using play-by-play?
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R.D. Mangles posted:How are defensive stats like Total Zone or UZR applied to old games using play-by-play? TZR uses retrosheet data. Here's an explanation vv that's correct I CHALLENGE THEE fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2011 around 16:20 |
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And UZR only goes back to 2002, as I believe that's as far back Baseball Info Solutions batted ball data goes.
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I asked in another thread and it got buried - what classifies someone as a "compiler"? My specific example was Sammy Sosa.
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Bigass Moth posted:I asked in another thread and it got buried - what classifies someone as a "compiler"? My specific example was Sammy Sosa. It's a general statement implying that someone who is a good but not great player stuck around for a long time and put up enough decent years to reach typical milestone plateaus (500HR, 3,000 hits, etc). People who reach those plateaus are usually considered surefire hall of famers (not 500HR anymore but hey), and so the argument is that by being merely a 'decent compiler', they are not worthy of the hall of fame despite reaching these plateaus. It's usually bullshit, Hank Aaron would be a great example of 'compiler' (it's hard to tell what a great example would be since there's no explicit definition of a compiler), as would Ty Cobb. Basically used to confirm a retarded sports writer's 'gut feeling' that someone shouldn't be in.
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A compiler is a player who had an extremely long career without being a truly dominant player at any point during it. Thus they are very high in counting stats like hits, home runs, and RBI, but not as good in rate stats like OPS. Some people were arguing that Rafael Palmiero was a compiler during Hall of Fame voting debate last year, for an example. Sosa is not really the best example because of the period he had from 1998-2002 where he was OPSing around 1 and was consistently in the top 10 of MVP voting.
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Bert Blyleven is often called a "compiler" by people who don't know how to properly evaluate pitchers. Here's a lengthy blog post calling him a compiler. http://www.hallofverygood.com/2009/...t-blyleven.html
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toadee posted:as would Ty Cobb.
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The fun thing about Sammy Sosa is that outside of those 4-5 or so seasons, he was a really pedestrian player. Even during those amazing seasons he barely had a .400 OBP. Great, but those were slugging heavy. So buoyed by a few really great seasons, he compiled his way to 2400 hits, a bunch of dingers and a billion strikeouts. drat shame the first person people think to compare McGwire with is Sosa.
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Oodles of Wootles posted:Why would he fit this? He had a very long career, but he was a leader in almost every offensive category throughout. He led the league in OPS 10 times and was second 4 times. He didn't hit a lot of dingers, but no one did then. I was just going on people I could think of with exceptionally long and healthy careers. I mean what is the difference between Ty Cobb compiling stats and Rafael Palmeiro? If you think those stats are hall of fame worthy then what does it matter?
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The difference is that Palmeiro never really led the league in any significant category at any point in his career. He led the AL in hits once, but that was it. Ty Cobb was arguably the best hitter in the MLB for 10 years or more.
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