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Senf
Nov 12, 2006

SPIEDER-MAN






Ain't nobody tarpin' like Oaktown

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NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005


Here's a photo of what Texas does/did. They'll change them out for team flags or all Texas or American Flags for certain occasions. I don't live in DFW anymore and haven't been to the park since '08 so a local could probably explain better. They also had signs below the press box for each division title

The Prisoner
Feb 10, 2008

Pass pucks every day


The White Sox have their championship teams hangin' on big tower things in left field, like so:



The Mets have normal flags that I can't find any good pictures of.

The Giants also have them:

Good Dog
Oct 16, 2008

Who threw this cat at me?

NotQuiteQuentin posted:

Both. I know Texas does flags for the Reg Season Division and League, Anaheim has the sign in the outfield (at least the last time I was at Angel Stadium.) I just never have seen a study of them along the same lines of other errata.

Angels stadium used to have that but I don't think they still have that sign on the outfield wall (which sucked). They have a bunch of flag poles out to the left of the rock pile, with 2002 in the center and the highest, I think it looks pretty good.

Mr. Cool Ice
Mar 4, 2007

I Terrorism


The Tigers have flags out in center field.



I don't remember what the flag in the middle is, though, and it's surprisingly hard to find good pictures.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009



The only thing the Rockies have (as far as I am aware) is this lovely sign above the scoreboard in left center. Guess they figured they'd just always suck so why bother making room for more than one pennant!

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



Literally everything about the entire history of the Cubs summarized in a single flag:

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005


Miami has two pitiful signs made like pennants over the Stanton Scoreboard. They were flags for the first few weeks but they blend into the windows.

JediGandalf
Sep 3, 2004

Savior


This is where the Padres all FIVE of their pennants in their (in)glorious 43 years of existence in MLB.

e: Clarification: 2 NLCS and 3 Division

JediGandalf fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 22:47

Beatnik-Filmstar
Feb 9, 2006

Hell yeah, Saint Peter lookin' mother fucker, let me in!



I'd swear they originally put up a banner for the 2000 wildcard but later took it down. Bad enough all they have to celebrate is "Hey! We made it out of the first round a few times!"

Pumpkin McPastry
Mar 8, 2004

What else do I have to do to impress you people?


gently caress. The 2000 Mariners made me so sad.

CraigK
Nov 4, 2008

tonged again


That ALCS banner is the saddest thing

CraigK
Nov 4, 2008

tonged again


Do the Nationals even acknowledge that the Expos existed? Even if they did I think they win the "most depressing set of flags" award.

barkingclam
Jun 20, 2007


CraigK posted:

Do the Nationals even acknowledge that the Expos existed? Even if they did I think they win the "most depressing set of flags" award.

If I remember right, they don't but the Montreal Canadiens have a banner hanging with all of the Expos retired numbers.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

THREE STAR RECRUIT

rip bama's title hopes
9/1/12-11/10/12


Beatnik-Filmstar posted:



I'd swear they originally put up a banner for the 2000 wildcard but later took it down. Bad enough all they have to celebrate is "Hey! We made it out of the first round a few times!"

God, that 116 wins banner.

E: I just remembered, Jamie Moyer was considered old back then, and it cheered me up

Carlton Banks
Jan 5, 2004

"The Tigers' biggest obstacle to a championship will be keeping a straight face. The Tigers in three."

Busch:



NL pennants are painted on the dugouts but I can't find a good picture

Carlton Banks fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2012 around 02:42

RembrandtQEinstein
Jul 1, 2009


The Twins have theirs flying on top of the left field bleachers. They also have these outside the stadium.



Thanks Gendo

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



Dusseldorf posted:

Park factors take a long time to normalize. It's probably noise at this point. Looking back the last few years the Rogers Center seems to be normal for walks.

Wrigley Field: Suppressing home runs since 2011.

The Prisoner
Feb 10, 2008

Pass pucks every day


CraigK posted:

Do the Nationals even acknowledge that the Expos existed? Even if they did I think they win the "most depressing set of flags" award.
There are no flags for the Expos but they DO have the retired numbers for Dawson and Carter complete with Expos logos up alongside the retired Washington Senators numbers that are etched(I think?) into the grandstand behind home plate.

Beatnik-Filmstar
Feb 9, 2006

Hell yeah, Saint Peter lookin' mother fucker, let me in!

The Prisoner posted:

There are no flags for the Expos but they DO have the retired numbers for Dawson and Carter

... which they allow players to use anyway.



VVVVV No - he switched to #8 this season. Was #18 previously. Didn't take #8 when he came up because a bench coach already had it.

Beatnik-Filmstar fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2012 around 20:41

The broken bones
Jan 3, 2008

And sometimes when I'm falling, flying or tumbling in center I say
Whoa so this is what NedCo means.

Is that a grandfather clause thing?


e: oh, 8 was Gary Carter, hahaha

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.


Do sophomore slumps have any real basis in baseball or are they just easy labels to assign bad performances?

Like is it actually a regular thing for players to be in a slump in their sophomore year or is it just as likely in any year?

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.


"Sophmore slump" is basically a buzzword version of regression to the mean.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates


Groucho Marxist posted:

"Sophmore slump" is basically a buzzword version of regression to the mean.

That's not entirely true. It's reasonable to suspect that getting pro tape on a guy could lead to the opposition making adjustments to them, and consequently a period where they perform worse. Given the timing of most call-ups, this would often happen in a player's sophomore season.

That said, I have no data to indicate whether this is or is not the case.

Dusseldorf
Mar 29, 2005



In the case of Shingo Takatsu it was that it took MLB hitters about 50IP before they realized they could hit a 70mph fastball really, really far.

Pumpkin McPastry
Mar 8, 2004

What else do I have to do to impress you people?


Dusseldorf posted:

In the case of Shingo Takatsu it was that it took MLB hitters about 50IP before they realized they could hit a 70mph fastball really, really far.

Shingo Takatsu was loving incredible.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



One day I will be telling my grandkids that I saw Mr. Zero, Mike Fetters, and Rod Beck pitch in person.

Dusseldorf
Mar 29, 2005



R.D. Mangles posted:

One day I will be telling my grandkids that I saw Mr. Zero, Mike Fetters, and Rod Beck pitch in person.

Mr. Zero really was the best. I went to a game with at the cell with both Mr. Zero and Kazuhito Tadano for the novelty Japanese pitchers matchup.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.


Mornacale posted:

That's not entirely true. It's reasonable to suspect that getting pro tape on a guy could lead to the opposition making adjustments to them, and consequently a period where they perform worse. Given the timing of most call-ups, this would often happen in a player's sophomore season.

That said, I have no data to indicate whether this is or is not the case.

Those adjustments are constantly happening during the season, though. A player who gets enough PAs or IP to lose rookie eligibility has certainly seen a few matchups multiple times in their rookie season already.

DannoMack
Aug 1, 2003

i love it when you call me big poppa


Anecdotally I hear a lot of baseball guys on TV over the last couple of years saying that the jump from AAA to MLB is the hardest it's ever been (meaning the talent gap between the two leagues has never been wider). Is that true? Is there even a way to quantify that? Or is it just retired baseball players being passive aggressive towards rookies?

dshban
Jan 31, 2007

REFEREE
im a ghost


DannoMack posted:

Anecdotally I hear a lot of baseball guys on TV over the last couple of years saying that the jump from AAA to MLB is the hardest it's ever been (meaning the talent gap between the two leagues has never been wider). Is that true? Is there even a way to quantify that? Or is it just retired baseball players being passive aggressive towards rookies?

More players are jumping from AA to MLB to avoid the Pacific Coast League (pitchers, meaning) and its insane park factors, leaving AAA with worse talent? This is a guess though.

DaFuente
Nov 23, 2003

puppeh

AAA is filled with a lot of low ceiling guys who can be called up at a moment's notice and perform at near replacement level. AA is where you see a lot more guys with high ceilings, but also guys who are toolsy and don't really have it all put together yet.

Somewhat related, Tim Hudson said that pitching in single-A during a rehab stint was frustrating because he couldn't set guys up for a pitch. By and large, those guys haven't developed a plate approach that a pitcher can exploit.

leokitty
Apr 5, 2005

Well I had to phone his friend to state my case, and say he's lost control again.

And he showed up all the errors and mistakes, and said I've lost control again.

There's not really a way to quantify it, I am guessing it's the same that it's ever been really.

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005


Leokitty had a good minors league information post up earlier this season that illustrated the difference between levels. AAA has evolved into less of a developmental and more of a holding ground level in my opinion. You get a bunch of emergency starters, career minor leaguers, Quad-A guys, and others. Plus PCL has a lot of hitters parks, probably second to the Cal League.

So is there much of a jump? Yeah, but it's more different than just classifying skills and stats.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001


leokitty posted:

I actually have no idea where the Yankees put theirs since they won't get rid of the dumb GEORGE MEMORIAL where the years used to be behind the bleachers. I'll take a look when I'm there next time.

I've never been to NY, I thought the George Memorial was out along some memorial walk in the location of the old park? I look for pictures of it and it appears to be sitting among a group of memorials, whereas the outfield wall with the years looks very different.

To throw my two bits in, San Francisco has the championship flags on the arch they installed above the new jumbotron when they renovated some year.


The flags pictured are actually for different accomplishments since this photo was taken prior to the 2010 postseason, but this space was repurposed for the title pennants afterward and these flags were moved to the grandstand roof.

leokitty
Apr 5, 2005

Well I had to phone his friend to state my case, and say he's lost control again.

And he showed up all the errors and mistakes, and said I've lost control again.

Craptacular! posted:

I've never been to NY, I thought the George Memorial was out along some memorial walk in the location of the old park? I look for pictures of it and it appears to be sitting among a group of memorials, whereas the outfield wall with the years looks very different.

There are two of them. They put an ugly giant gaudy plaque in Memorial Park (that poo poo is seriously hideous and awful--it's bigger than the Gehrig/Ruth/Mantle/DiMaggio memorials and the largest of the plaques by far) and then they put up an RIP GEORGE thing in the area behind the right field bleachers where the championship years used to be.

Frot Lesnar
Feb 27, 2007

Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda


I remember reading a sports trivia book as a kid in the 80s and they had a piece on a guy who I want to say was a Mets reliever. He came in and gave up a grand slam and had the single worst ERA for a single appearance. Does any of this sound familiar? I know there are IP qualifications made and what not but this may have been the only appearance in the bigs for this guy.

Beatnik-Filmstar
Feb 9, 2006

Hell yeah, Saint Peter lookin' mother fucker, let me in!

Frot Lesnar posted:

I remember reading a sports trivia book as a kid in the 80s and they had a piece on a guy who I want to say was a Mets reliever. He came in and gave up a grand slam and had the single worst ERA for a single appearance. Does any of this sound familiar? I know there are IP qualifications made and what not but this may have been the only appearance in the bigs for this guy.

Doesn't appear to be the guy you're talking about, but I did just stumble across this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Cleary

Highest career ERA for any pitcher that recorded an out.

Career stats of 1/3 inning pitched, 5 hits given up, 3 walks, 7 earned runs, and an ERA of 189.00.
It was 1945, so I doubt anyone laughed at his ERA+ of 4 or his WHIP of 24.00.

Frot Lesnar
Feb 27, 2007

Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda


Beatnik-Filmstar posted:

Doesn't appear to be the guy you're talking about, but I did just stumble across this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Cleary

Highest career ERA for any pitcher that recorded an out.

Career stats of 1/3 inning pitched, 5 hits given up, 3 walks, 7 earned runs, and an ERA of 189.00.
It was 1945, so I doubt anyone laughed at his ERA+ of 4 or his WHIP of 24.00.

That is probably it. Thank you.

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JediGandalf
Sep 3, 2004

Savior


Frot Lesnar posted:

I remember reading a sports trivia book as a kid in the 80s and they had a piece on a guy who I want to say was a Mets reliever. He came in and gave up a grand slam and had the single worst ERA for a single appearance. Does any of this sound familiar? I know there are IP qualifications made and what not but this may have been the only appearance in the bigs for this guy.
Assuming all four runs are charged to this reliever and he made at least one out, 9*(4/(1/3)) = 9*((4*3)/1) = ERA of 108

e: Mostly beaten to it.

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