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dog poop n doritos posted:They make stupid, bad decisions and fall rear end backwards into wins and it goes against everything that the sabermetrician types are about. Also one of the consequences of that is they beat the Yankees a bunch so none of the Yankees fans like that at all. Plus now all of a sudden they can spend a bunch of money and sign huge free agents and have a $150m payroll so the stupid poo poo like overpaying Vernon Wells by $20.6m a year doesn't even matter. e: full disclosure I do not hate the Angels. Badfinger fucked around with this message at Aug 8, 2012 around 21:30 |
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Macintosh posted:The explanation is probably in this thread but I can't find it so I'll ask. Not only did they beat the Twins in the ALCS in 2002, but they denied Barrold a ring.
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The Angels are pretty cool
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The Angels have a dumb name and the rally monkey and a bunch of horrible Orange County fans that won't root for the Dodgers because they're too "urban". Their manager/front office does a lot of dumb things like trading trading Mike Napoli for Vernon Wells because of the ~veteran presence~ of Jeff Mathis. Despite all of this, they consistently beat their pythag record and get into the playoffs and that is Really Annoying to a lot of SAS MLB fans. In some respects they remind me of the Twins before they fell off the face of the earth, except they can actually beat the Yankees.
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rscott posted:a bunch of horrible Orange County fans that won't root for the Dodgers because they're too "urban". I think you nailed the reason for me actually. Living in Orange County, the common opinion seems to be that the Dodgers are a team for illegals and gangsters. When I go to a game in Anaheim, II usually expect to hear at least one person say something like "look at that cholo in the Dodgers hat". Also I remember them hitting a bunch of Baltimore chops to win a game against the Indians.
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Macintosh posted:I think you nailed the reason for me actually. Living in Orange County, the common opinion seems to be that the Dodgers are a team for illegals and gangsters. When I go to a game in Anaheim, II usually expect to hear at least one person say something like "look at that cholo in the Dodgers hat". Except also with black people.
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"Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim"
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Macintosh posted:I think you nailed the reason for me actually. Living in Orange County, the common opinion seems to be that the Dodgers are a team for illegals and gangsters. When I go to a game in Anaheim, II usually expect to hear at least one person say something like "look at that cholo in the Dodgers hat". Hello fellow Orange County resident who hates the Angels. Except Mike Trout  Also someone should just collect all these answers because someone asks this question 3-4 times a year.
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Maybe because I've grown up in Santa Ana and had my highschool be 80% Hispanic, 19% Vietnamese, 1% other but I've never heard anyone say that dodger fans are "too urban". Most of the time I hear responses in here that Angels fans are racist or homophobic or whatever, and several times I've read someone post that Angels fans "look weird", whatever the gently caress that is supposed to mean.
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Good Dog posted:Maybe because I've grown up in Santa Ana and had my highschool be 80% Hispanic, 19% Vietnamese, 1% other but I've never heard anyone say that dodger fans are "too urban". Angel's fans are white as gently caress. Except when they aren't.
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I moved to LA this past December and I've already met some dudes who complain Dodger fans are too low class/not white so it's definitely a sentiment that exists.
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The Prisoner posted:You know what's awful but amusing about this? Cubs fans think this about White Sox fans. I really don't know why all the pro-Cubs anti-White Sox stuff gets a free pass for its blatant racism. Maybe because the Cubs are loving awful.
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:I really don't know why all the pro-Cubs anti-White Sox stuff gets a free pass for its blatant racism. Maybe because the Cubs are loving awful.
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Pumpkin McPastry posted:I really don't know why all the pro-Cubs anti-White Sox stuff gets a free pass for its blatant racism. Maybe because the Cubs are loving awful. Because everyone finds Cubs fans so despicable already that racism just seems par for the course and not altogether surprising from them.
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The Prisoner posted:It's probably because all those Cubs fans from the suburbs and Indiana and Iowa are so gosh-darn nice that no one is willing to call them out on their bullshit even when it's really bad. Ah, yes, the St. Louis defense.
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This is a random thought I had enter my mind last night. Let's say a team puts on a defensive shift for an Ortiz like player with the infield way over to the right. During this shift, they want the second baseman playing in his normal position and the shortstop playing in shallow right field. Does the manager have to officially change their position because of where they are on the field or does it not matter?
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Storm posted:This is a random thought I had enter my mind last night. Let's say a team puts on a defensive shift for an Ortiz like player with the infield way over to the right. During this shift, they want the second baseman playing in his normal position and the shortstop playing in shallow right field. Does the manager have to officially change their position because of where they are on the field or does it not matter? The only 2 players who have designated spots on the field are the pitcher and the catcher. The other positions only exist for ease of bookkeeping.
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Storm posted:This is a random thought I had enter my mind last night. Let's say a team puts on a defensive shift for an Ortiz like player with the infield way over to the right. During this shift, they want the second baseman playing in his normal position and the shortstop playing in shallow right field. Does the manager have to officially change their position because of where they are on the field or does it not matter? No, and Toronto doing almost exactly this except with the 3B is causing massive advanced stat problems with Brett Lawrie.
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Can we all agree that every fanbase has racist elements, but none of them are all racists? (except Boston)
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Sweet, thanks guys
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Squall posted:"Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim"
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In today's Mets game, Dickey has got the 3rd strike on someone only for them to reach base due to it being a wild pitch. Twice. Does he still get credited with a strike out? vvv Thanks. Seems a bit weird to be credited with a strike out when nobody was out.
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Lungboy posted:In today's Mets game, Dickey has struck someone out only for them to reach base due to it being a wild pitch. Twice. Does he still get credited with a strike out? Yes he does.
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Lungboy posted:In today's Mets game, Dickey has got the 3rd strike on someone only for them to reach base due to it being a wild pitch. Twice. Does he still get credited with a strike out? Yeah you can get 4 (or more!) K's in an inning this way, and that's been done a few dozen times. Believe it or not an Astros pitcher actually did it this year.
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Five strikeouts in one inning has been done in the minor leagues a few times, and Joe Niekro did it once in a spring training game (his catcher gave up five passed balls that inning), although it's never happened during the MLB regular season.
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JediGandalf posted:This reason alone is why I have a hard time following the Angels. I don't think I've heard a more ridiculous name and a total affront to local geography for a sports team. If they named them like the Southern California Angels, I would be more amenable. But then you realize you're in the same fan base as people from Irvine and Newport Beach. I'm pretty sure I was pissing everyone in section 260 by not facing the flag during "God Bless America" when I went for Rangers-Angels. Considering the name was purposefully chosen so that they wouldn't have to repay millions of publicly funded dollars for violating their renovation agreement... gently caress the Angels.
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Orange County is an awful place devoid of culture and full of racism. But then again so is most of America. But the Dodgers traded away my boyhood hero so gently caress those guys.
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Toffile posted:Considering the name was purposefully chosen so that they wouldn't have to repay millions of publicly funded dollars for violating their renovation agreement... Did the current owner make that agreement? My impression is that Disney milked the City of Anaheim for that as part of their resort corridor plan while building California Adventure (this included new regulations on signage that spelled the doom for the old 50s neon on Harbor Blvd, etc) and after they sold it to a new owner he put the LAofA thing in. Through the years, that team has been LA, Anaheim, even the California Angels. That whole "The The Angels Angels" thing is only a small blip on what has forever been a marketing campaign looking for a niche. I like the Angels, but I'm a Giants fan who moved south and goes to Disneyland a lot anyhow, so it just kind of worked out well. They're the only team around me that isn't a competing NL West team. That they've also denied a ring to Bonds (who I was not a fan of) is a nice touch. ZerodotJander posted:I moved to LA this past December and I've already met some dudes who complain Dodger fans are too low class/not white so it's definitely a sentiment that exists.
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Ever been to Santa Ana? Wonder why the Anaheim police have been in the news so much? This whole fantasy of OC as white people land and LA as gangland is just that, a fantasy. I'll go to Dodger games, I'm a Dodger fan, I feel safe there, you see plenty of security now. And what they don't tell you about Brian Stow is that according to witnesses he was talking trash to those guys. He was drunk. That of course doesn't excuse what they did to him. But if people think that he got beat up solely because he was a white guy with a Giants jersey, I don't think they know the whole story. Again, I'm not excusing them beating up Stow, but it's not so black and white. Arte Moreno is who changed the name from the Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. He claims the change has paid off. It sounds stupid to me but whatever.
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Craptacular! posted:Those people may be blind to the fact that white people start fights too, but the stereotype of the fan base in general fits the glove. I don't think the Dodgers organization itself wants these kinds of fans (they're probably preferable to no fans at all, but...) since their TV advertising is the same old "take your kid to the good old game for ice cream and fireworks" shmaltz as any ball club's. Nor do I think SAS Dodger fans fit this mold. But they are out there. go gently caress yourself
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Craptacular! posted:Those people may be blind to the fact that white people start fights too, but the stereotype of the fan base in general fits the glove. I don't think the Dodgers organization itself wants these kinds of fans (they're probably preferable to no fans at all, but...) since their TV advertising is the same old "take your kid to the good old game for ice cream and fireworks" shmaltz as any ball club's. Nor do I think SAS Dodger fans fit this mold. But they are out there. hey can you tell me the last time you posted anything that wasn't overly verbose and factually incorrect trick question all your posts are loving terrible
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Craptacular! posted:Those people may be blind to the fact that white people start fights too, but the stereotype of the fan base in general fits the glove. I don't think the Dodgers organization itself wants these kinds of fans (they're probably preferable to no fans at all, but...) since their TV advertising is the same old "take your kid to the good old game for ice cream and fireworks" shmaltz as any ball club's. Nor do I think SAS Dodger fans fit this mold. But they are out there. I can't believe you live here in socal, please loving leave you racist shitpile. Go back to wherever you came from and also stop posting, you stupid gently caress.
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Craptacular! posted:
Please stop posting in this forum.
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I will say though that my favorite baseball moment of all time was when a buddy and I went to an Angels-Indians game in Anaheim and our seats were obstructed by the foul pole. There were empty seats to our left so we moved there and when the owners of those seats finally came, they let us have them and sat in our obstructed seats even though we insisted that we should move back. In the end we told them about the year the Tribe was having and they told us about the Angels and their favorite players, did some light trash talking and it was very pleasant. It wasn't the most interesting or historic game but I like nice people. 
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Macintosh posted:I will say though that my favorite baseball moment of all time was when a buddy and I went to an Angels-Indians game in Anaheim and our seats were obstructed by the foul pole. There were empty seats to our left so we moved there and when the owners of those seats finally came, they let us have them and sat in our obstructed seats even though we insisted that we should move back.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:please stop shattering my stereotype of Angels fans anecdotal. ANECDOTAL!!!!
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Craptacular! posted:Those people may be blind to the fact that white people start fights too, but the stereotype of the fan base in general fits the glove. I don't think the Dodgers organization itself wants these kinds of fans (they're probably preferable to no fans at all, but...) since their TV advertising is the same old "take your kid to the good old game for ice cream and fireworks" shmaltz as any ball club's. Nor do I think SAS Dodger fans fit this mold. But they are out there. When people complain about Dodger fans being too "urban" or "thugish" we all know they are complaining about Mexican-American and other Spanish-speaking fans. Not only is it obviously racist, but that part of the fanbase is a really important part of the team's history. Watch the 30 for 30 on it (Fernando Nation) and you'll see what I mean. The Dodgers' appeal to Spanish-speaking Angelinos represents a healing of the wounds inflicted on that community when the team arrived in California. The Dodgers having a broad multicultural fanbase, as far as I'm concerned, demonstrates the best of what sports fandom is all about : bringing people together, especially from different backgrounds. Hispanic Dodgers fans are a source of pride for the organization, not shame.
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Craptacular! posted:I like the Angels, but I'm a Giants fan who moved south and goes to Disneyland a lot anyhow, so it just kind of worked out well. They're the only team around me that isn't a competing NL West team. That they've also denied a ring to Bonds (who I was not a fan of) is a nice touch. Jesus Christ, man. Don't root for the Angels. gently caress. You're the worst Giants fan.
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bawfuls posted:Others have covered the appropriate "go gently caress yourself" responses well, but there's another part to this I think is worth mentioning. I've been trolled pretty routinely by the users above and I've never responded to them since I don't want to help drag SAS into the shitter and get banned, but you're being rational and using grammar and punctuation. I realize that the stereotype exists. That's why my very first sentence is that white people can also get drunk and start fights. I've only ever been to Uncle Tommy's Blue Heaven one time, but the only person who gave me poo poo for sitting and watching the game while visibly not being a Dodger fan (he dumped his food on me deliberately) was a white guy. So politicalrancor's comment that my post was race-baiting actually made me laugh. I'm not an authority on the problem, but I'd blame "Offseason Raiders Fans" over race for a lot of this. enuma elish posted:Jesus Christ, man. Don't root for the Angels. gently caress. You're the worst Giants fan. 
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ManifunkDestiny posted:please stop shattering my stereotype of Angels fans They still come late and leave early.
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