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zakharov: Nov 30, 2002; Control the source of dingers,
and you control the universe

The broken bones posted:

Wasn't 1884 also the first year pitchers began throwing overhand?

Only in the National League!

# ? Apr 11, 2011 05:34

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# ? May 25, 2013 02:58

iKickDogs: Aug 31, 2001

chrysamere posted:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/l...ch_season.shtml

What the hell?

Old Hoss seems like some biblical character who lived to be 600. 678 IP in 1884. What the hell.

In 1884, the pitcher's mound was still only 50 feet from home plate, and it was the first year that pitchers were allowed to throw overhand. Batters probably didn't know what the gently caress.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 05:36

Moe_Rahn: Jun 1, 2006; I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

did not expect the first non-dead-ball-era season to be 1972 Steve Carlton

# ? Apr 11, 2011 06:12

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; And sometimes when I'm falling, flying or tumbling in center I say
Whoa so this is what NedCo means.

Moe_Rahn posted:

did not expect the first non-dead-ball-era season to be 1972 Steve Carlton

360 IP

# ? Apr 11, 2011 06:27

bbf2: Nov 22, 2007; "The White Shadow"

chrysamere posted:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/l...ch_season.shtml

What the hell?

Old Hoss seems like some biblical character who lived to be 600. 678 IP in 1884. What the hell.

He also has an entertaining twitter account.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 07:54

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth: Apr 23, 2004; "He's a great baker. He's Betty Crocker. He makes the best peanut butter cookies ever."

59 in '84 was a pretty interesting book. Baseball was a brutal game back then. The pictures of catchers' hands with their fingers bent and broken every which way was just

# ? Apr 11, 2011 08:02

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

59 in '84 was a pretty interesting book. Baseball was a brutal game back then. The pictures of catchers' hands with their fingers bent and broken every which way was just

I was reading that book on the el and the lady next to me gagged when I flipped to that picture.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 13:39

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

chrysamere posted:

Can anyone explain how Jeff Bagwell wasn't a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Lack of 500 HR's?

The Baseball HoF is most likely going to turn into a joke over the next 10-20 years due to retarded sportswriters. I personally am just going to stop caring about who is in.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 15:05

Quasimango: Mar 10, 2011; God damn you.

The entire history of the HOF is one of sportswriters making terrible decisions. Some of the players in there from the 10's and 20's make Jim Rice look like Ted Williams.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 15:41

I CHALLENGE THEE: Aug 25, 2005

Quasimango posted:

The entire history of the HOF is one of sportswriters making terrible decisions. Some of the players in there from the 10's and 20's make Jim Rice look like Ted Williams.

That's more because of the Veteran's Committee than the BBWAA

# ? Apr 11, 2011 15:54

EnterYourNameHere: Jan 7, 2007; like a trash can fire
in a prison cell
like the searchlights
in the parking lots of hell

So from the N/V thread OP:

quote:

30 second primer to prepare yourself to become an SAS baseball fan:
-gently caress the Angels
-gently caress the Yankees and Red Sox
-nuke Wrigley Field
-steroids don't turn you into a baseball god
-RBIs/saves/pitcher wins are way overrated by the general media

I get all that, but why gently caress the Angels? From living in the area, it seems that basically every Angels fan is of the bandwagon, fair-weather variety, is that it or is there another reason?

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:09

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

It is because they always seem to out play their talent and always out play their Pythagorean record.

BaseballReference posted:

What is pythagorean winning percentage?

Pythagorean winning percentage is an estimate of a team's winning percentage given their runs scored and runs allowed. Developed by Bill James, it can tell you when teams were a bit lucky or unlucky. It is calculated by

(Runs Scored)^1.83 / ( (Runs Scored)^1.83 + (Runs Allowed)^1.83)

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:12

gardenald: Jul 23, 2007

Also because gently caress Mike Scioscia

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:13

The Blue Caboose: May 20, 2007; randy johnson: murderer of pidgeons and scourge of left-handed batters.

EnterYourNameHere posted:

So from the N/V thread OP:

I get all that, but why gently caress the Angels? From living in the area, it seems that basically every Angels fan is of the bandwagon, fair-weather variety, is that it or is there another reason?

They also have tended to vastly outplay their pythagorean, and succeed despite ridiculous mistakes in managment (i.e. playing Mathis and his 53 OPS+ over Napoli and his 120 OPS+.

Also, the Rally Monkey.

e:f,b.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:17

RembrandtQEinstein: Jul 1, 2009

Scrotos posted:

It is because they always seem to out play their talent and always out play their Pythagorean record.

This, plus if you are a Twins fan 2002

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:17

EnterYourNameHere: Jan 7, 2007; like a trash can fire
in a prison cell
like the searchlights
in the parking lots of hell

Scrotos posted:

It is because they always seem to out play their talent and always out play their Pythagorean record.

gardenald posted:

Also because gently caress Mike Scioscia

Makes sense, thanks

and yes the rally monkey is retarded

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:17

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

gardenald posted:

Also because gently caress Mike Scioscia

This too. They do seem to optimize with the Twins everything SAS hates. "They play the game the right way" crap. Where they try and steal lots of bases, and hit and run, and bunt. Their players show "grit" and all that crap.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:18

Groucho Marxist: Dec 9, 2005; Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.

Torii Hunter is a megadick as well

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:22

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008

I don't actually have a problem with the Angels at all, and they have a lot of players that I like a lot (Callaspo, Weaver, Morales, Kendrick, Wells, Haren). Plus I figure if everyone hates them they must be doing something right.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:24

The Blue Caboose: May 20, 2007; randy johnson: murderer of pidgeons and scourge of left-handed batters.

Scrotos posted:

This too. They do seem to optimize with the Twins everything SAS hates. "They play the game the right way" crap. Where they try and steal lots of bases, and hit and run, and bunt. Their players show "grit" and all that crap.

Also this leads to one of my co-workers claiming they have the best outfield in baseball this year with Abreu, Hunter, and Wells. If it was 2002, sure! Not to mention that I'm pretty sure Abreu is the DH and Borjous is playing center.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:25

OdinsBeard: Jul 12, 2003; Type 'iddqd' into the console to enable Beast Mode.

Bob Shabazz posted:

I don't actually have a problem with the Angels at all, and they have a lot of players that I like a lot (Callaspo, Weaver, Morales, Kendrick, Wells, Haren). Plus I figure if everyone hates them they must be doing something right.

You just don't live close enough to their fanbase.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:25

iKickDogs: Aug 31, 2001

OdinsBeard posted:

You just don't live close enough to their fanbase.

How many people have Angels fans beaten into comas this week?

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:31

OdinsBeard: Jul 12, 2003; Type 'iddqd' into the console to enable Beast Mode.

iKickDogs posted:

How many people have Angels fans beaten into comas this week?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...-donations.html

@Molly_knight EMT officials here estimate 3,000+ Angelenos have shown up to donate to Bryan Stow. They've collected $30,000 so far. Awesome.

OdinsBeard fucked around with this message at Apr 11, 2011 around 21:00

# ? Apr 11, 2011 20:48

stuart scott irl: Mar 9, 2007

I do love Jered Weaver, who gets seemingly no press at all for being one of the best pitchers in baseball right now

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:11

Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008

The Blue Caboose posted:

Also this leads to one of my co-workers claiming they have the best outfield in baseball this year with Abreu, Hunter, and Wells. If it was 2002, sure! Not to mention that I'm pretty sure Abreu is the DH and Borjous is playing center.

I'm relatively certain they've been rotating Abreu and Hunter at DH

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:16

Groucho Marxist: Dec 9, 2005; Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.

stuart scott irl posted:

I do love Jered Weaver, who gets seemingly no press at all for being one of the best pitchers in baseball right now

The poor guy basically had the worst season to have a breakout year. Between him and Felix/Price/Lester/CC, the AL CY race was insane

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:23

Grozz Nuy: Feb 21, 2008

RembrandtQEinstein posted:

This, plus if you are a Twins fan 2002

Think we've got one up on you on that front.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:25

purkey: Dec 5, 2003; I hate the 90s

Grozz Nuy posted:

Think we've got one up on you on that front.

Nah, Giants fans eventually got theirs.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:32

DivineCoffeeBinge: Mar 3, 2011; Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

The Rally Monkey is the only reason anyone will ever need to hate the Angels.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 21:37

Nate RFB: Jan 17, 2005; CG: IT'S ME AGAIN, ASSHOLE
CG: THE ONE WHO HATES YOU, REMEMBER?

Don't leave out K-Rod who was by far the most obnoxious closer to watch in the past decade. You thought Papelbon's fist pumping and anus face was bad? Sheesh.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 22:18

TUS: Feb 19, 2003; I'm going to stab you. Offline. With a real knife.

Groucho Marxist posted:

The poor guy basically had the worst season to have a breakout year. Between him and Felix/Price/Lester/CC, the AL CY race was insane

It seemed like enough people went out of their way to talk about how awesome Weaver was during the 2010 season even though they didn't vote for him.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 22:28

JediGandalf: Sep 3, 2004; Savior

OdinsBeard posted:

You just don't live close enough to their fanbase.

That being....?

Seriously though, it's pretty much Orange County, right? IE is predominately Dodgers.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 23:27

OdinsBeard: Jul 12, 2003; Type 'iddqd' into the console to enable Beast Mode.

JediGandalf posted:

That being....?

Seriously though, it's pretty much Orange County, right? IE is predominately Dodgers.

Yes, Orange County. I live there, it's terrible.

# ? Apr 11, 2011 23:41

leokitty: Apr 5, 2005; Well I had to phone his friend to state my case, and say he's lost control again.

And he showed up all the errors and mistakes, and said I've lost control again.

Nate RFB posted:

Don't leave out K-Rod who was by far the most obnoxious closer to watch in the past decade. You thought Papelbon's fist pumping and anus face was bad? Sheesh.

The second best thing about YTS was the K-Rod thread I wish I had it bookmarked. It really captured the whole gently caress the Angels thing beautifully.

# ? Apr 12, 2011 00:21

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010

Per inning stats like K/9 very very technically and slightly benefit pitchers who are wild or also give up a lot of hits, because they have more PA against and therefore more opportunity to strike people out.

# ? Apr 12, 2011 00:24

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

There was a SAS fyad forum?

# ? Apr 12, 2011 00:24

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010

euphronius posted:

There was a SAS fyad forum?

RSF and it was actually really bad save three threads: WSASP (which was technically a helldump thread anyway), K-Rod and Vin Scully thread.

# ? Apr 12, 2011 00:26

Power of Pecota: Aug 3, 2007; It is not this bad, there is hope, there is charity, there is sufficient joy, there is compassion, blah blah blah blah Charles Dickens' three ghosts visit Scrooge and he wakes up to life blah blah blah blah...

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

RSF and it was actually really bad save three threads: WSASP (which was technically a helldump thread anyway), K-Rod and Vin Scully thread.

www.wsasp.org

# ? Apr 12, 2011 00:33

Whodat Smith-Jones: Apr 15, 2007; My name is Buck, and I'm here to fuck

I overheard some guy talking about catcher ERA earlier and trying to act like it's a thing. I know that it's a pretty silly stat, but I also realized I don't know how exactly I'd convince someone under the circumstances that it was stupid for any reasons other than

1. a catcher can call a whole game, but he's not actually making the pitches and shouldn't be given credit
2. catchers with low ERAs probably also have the fortune of catching pitchers who have low ERAs that they would've had regardless of who was behind the plate

What other reasons would allow me to be all

about it?

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# ? May 25, 2013 02:58

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; And sometimes when I'm falling, flying or tumbling in center I say
Whoa so this is what NedCo means.

Power of Pecota posted:

www.wsasp.org

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