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To the sure who asked about reverse busts, Jeff Kent is another good one. 20th round pick out of CCal and signed immediately
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the popes toes posted:You can't wOBA off the island. hehehe
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| # ¿ Mar 10, 2011 00:07 |
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Yolkz posted:So for every Cubs loss this year I decided I'm going to drink a new beer. Double for every game Zambrano so much as even hints of throwing a fit. Finding 80+ different styles of beer is gonna be tough though. sorry to hear about your future case of cirrhosis
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Spaceman Future! posted:I know, but the blatant homer in me really wants to see his road average climb without his home regressing so I can feel all aww you're growing up 
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Pershing posted:Thanks for the 'safe space', it's greatly appreciated! 1. Not really. There are projection systems like PECOTA, CAIRO and a few others that attempt to predict how the season will play out based on the movements of players in free agency and projected regression of all ballplayers, but there's nothing that outright predicts what the future is going to hold. You can see PECOTA's projections for free here: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/dc/ They're tied for the NL Wild Card with the Dodgers. 2. Good question! Read as many books as you can. This looks like a good start. Then this is coming out in July. Both would be on my to-do list. Are you in Atlanta? I occasionally contact people at the Brooklyn Eagle to ask for newspaper clips from the 1950s Dodgers. You can do the same at the city's biggest library or at the newspapers themselves.
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Magicmat posted:Isn't it just a simulcast from TV, though? And still, no Houston. Yes. Some Jerk posted:Does anybody actually like UZR? Besides MGL (and the guy who made WAR apparently) I do. I also like Total Zone and think it's silly how simple it is and yet more or less effective. People poo poo on these two, but just because they're not great doesn't mean they're not worthwhile so long as you take into account their faults. There will never be a stat that can comprehensively and objectively define a player's defensive value in a single season because most players don't see a decent enough sample size in a single season.
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Vin Scully
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Youk is a pretty big prick.
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| # ¿ Mar 17, 2011 14:03 |
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SAS is united in its hatred of white players.
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| # ¿ Mar 18, 2011 00:39 |
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kaworu posted:Is he a prick because he charged the mound that one time, or because he gets visibly upset when he strikes out on occasion? yes. His hissy fits are hilarious too
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DrGonzo90 posted:Vin Scully (the second greatest announcer of all-time) the gently caress is this poo poo
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| # ¿ Apr 6, 2011 01:47 |
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Wasn't 1884 also the first year pitchers began throwing overhand?
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| # ¿ Apr 11, 2011 05:32 |
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Moe_Rahn posted:did not expect the first non-dead-ball-era season to be 1972 Steve Carlton 360 IP
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| # ¿ Apr 11, 2011 06:27 |
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Power of Pecota posted:www.wsasp.org * "Kill! Kill! Roll that beautiful bean footage! And kill!" uxbnkuribo 8 months ago 14 Reply o Share o Remove o Flag for spam o Block User o Unblock User * "Speak for yourself, moron!" Oecobius 3 months ago 5 lol
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OdinsBeard posted:For players still under team control, an arbitration offer has to be 80% of the previous year's salary, 70% of the player's salary two years previous. For free agents, there's no such restriction. At least, according to the link I found. It should be noted that only one player in history (as far as Maury from Biz of Baseball has found) came out of arbitration earning less than he did the previous year and it was because the guy went into arbitration asking for less. lol Teams often find it more ... economically savvy, I guess, to just outright drop the player instead of playing the 80-70 rule.
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Yeah, what he really should have said was "Wow, defensive metrics have Nyjer Morgan as valuable as Adam Dunn this year. That may not be true next year, but that's really cool."
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| # ¿ Apr 23, 2011 16:58 |
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stuart scott irl posted:re: the power-hitting 2B thing Joe Gordon was pretty awesome
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| # ¿ Apr 29, 2011 04:11 |
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Boy Wunder posted:I just finished reading Moneyball. If I recall correctly, towards the end of the book Paul DePodesta states that OBP is about three times more important than slugging percentage in determining a player's offensive worth. Wouldn't this make the OPS stat incorrectly skewed towards sluggers with lower OBP? Was DePodesta wrong or did I not read it correctly? Just to add to what Jefferson Olives said, a guy named Tom Tango created wOBA a few years ago, which (in a few words) is an OBP-heavy version of OPS. It's a great stat, though it doesn't seem to be that much more effective than OPS+ (except on the Juan Uribe test).
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:For what it's worth, noted SAS favorite Disco Hayes did an awesome thing on defensive alignments and how they were an underutilized aspect of baseball. Where's this? e: as an aside, I spoke to a MiLB manager a couple years ago who told me Ron Washington was the worst manager he'd ever seen. Washington once had his OFers at doubles depth while they had a lead and then kept them at doubles depth for no particular reason after they lost the lead.
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Badfinger posted:Holy crap, wikipedia has an entire baseball glossary. I think that was a Red Barber thing. Red Barber made up a lot of poo poo that somehow became colloquial baseball terminology, like catbird seat.
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A few things about errors in the minor leagues and why they happen so often: 1. Some times it's because the player is learning a new position and has some glaring fault that he repeats. Sometimes this can be a throwing error to first on a repeated basis; other times it can be more serious like inability to field balls cleanly within range. Both can be worked on with time, so long as the player takes the time to adjust. But trust your club's judgment (and the judgment of scouts) on whether or not he should stick there. 1a. Some times it can be because the player is learning a different part of fielding his position and boots a ball now and again learning to adjust. This can include going for balls outside of his comfort range, working on glove-to-throwing hand transfers, moving his feet faster, working on fielding the ball a DIFFERENT way, etc. Same with 1, trust the club's and scouts' judgment. 2. Some times it's because the player is a fish out of water. Changing leagues and facing harder competition is a learning curve for position players. 3. Some times it's because the player isn't fit for the position and the team wants to try and prepare him for the position anyway. Three examples: 1. The Orioles' Josh Bell. While there was talk of moving him off third base when he was traded from the Dodgers (he put up 38 errors in 2007), he worked hard to make his defense at 3B average and later above-average. His bat on the other hand turned bad. 1a. The Dodgers' Dee Gordon has had 30+ errors almost every year in his minors career, but because he has superior range and worked on fielding the ball smoother, he's a major league short stop. 2. I got nothing. 3. The Pirates' Pedro Alvarez. Similar to Bell, there was talk of moving him off first, but because he lacked the range and was called "lazy". The Pirates decided to keep him at 3B though for whatever reason. 22 errors in that few games is not good, but it depends on the reputation of the player. If he has good defense, the errors may just be 1 or 1a.
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@FanSince2001 posted:Ive been to 15+ Angels-Yankees games and Ive seen a total of 2 wins.
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| # ¿ Jul 7, 2011 23:40 |
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angrygodofjebus posted:Frank Thomas used to just use a piece of rebar holy poo poo that owns.
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| # ¿ Jul 8, 2011 04:50 |
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It's a great, great ballpark, even if it hosts the worst team in MLB.
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| # ¿ Jul 8, 2011 16:04 |
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The pillbox hats are choice. Even just the solid black with yellow "P" is worthwhile.
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| # ¿ Jul 9, 2011 00:52 |
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Kimasu v2.0 posted:I noticed Troy Tulowotzki has two stars on the back of his jersey, one on either side of the MLB logo. Is that like team captain or something? everyone who made the all-star team has 'em.
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sweets posted:
It's hard to believe let alone remember just how big of a prospect he was coming up. He started off in the top 100 out of high school and reached No. 14 on BA's list two years later (at age 21!) before being called up. A lot of other players have been called up that early and a good portion of them went on to become perennial all-stars and even some hall of famers. gently caress, man. I would've been pretty drat excited to see him play too.
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| # ¿ Jul 21, 2011 07:25 |
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Cobb never won a world series, what a piece of poo poo player he was. Pirates own.
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| # ¿ Jul 26, 2011 05:54 |
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was there anyone who was a huge, ridiculous, talented rear end in a top hat and won a shitload of rings? Reggie Jackson comes to mind
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| # ¿ Jul 26, 2011 06:10 |
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Dusseldorf posted:Dodgers are always big on both Brooklyn and LA Dodger history. The Dodgers have four players/managers in the hall of fame from the early Brooklyn era (pre ~1955) and their only appearance is on a column in the loge level and a column in the club level.
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Jackie Robinson is kinda included in that group, in that there are some images of him around the stadium, but the players omitted are Burleigh Grimes, Zach Wheat, Wilbert Robinson and Dazzy Vance. A lot of the images around the stadium are of LA Dodgers, so there's some really cool 36" by 18" shots on club level of all sorts of poo poo, from games from the 1959 World Series to Koufax's perfect game to a shot of Duke Snider fouling off one to first base.
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tbf to O'Malley, the permits were the bigger problem and Robert Moses was against the idea of building a stadium where O'Malley wanted it at Flatbush and Atlantic. Moses wanted it built in Queens and everyone thought that was retarded except Moses. The Dodgers moved to LA and Moses got the stadium he wanted in Shea. obviously I'm biased, but etc. also gently caress the giants and gently caress john mcgraw.
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Horace Stoneham was also a filthy drunk and was basically talked into moving to California by O'Malley when O'Malley got him filthy drunk at a dinner and said "hey, I was thinking of moving the team to California, would you want to join me?" and Stoneham agreed. Can't imagine the hangover from that one "i agreed to do WHAT????"
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Dusseldorf posted:O'Malley wasn't a dick for abandoning New York. He was a dick for forcably evicting a bunch of poor mexicans to build a huge goddamn parking lot and a slightly less huge stadium. Oh yeah, this was the biggest reason without a doubt. LA let him pick where he wanted to build the park, mayor hahn even personally went up with him in an old whirly bird. o'malley said "right here, where all of these low-income mexicans live" and they were all forcibly removed from their homes. Some of those people showed up at Dodger Stadium on opening day 1962 and threw tomatoes at the stadium.
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toadee posted:Different parks have different hitting backgrounds, as well as atmospheric conditions, temperature etc. Hitting backgrounds can make it harder to see pitches, or easier, affecting the hitters ability to judge pitches in/out of the zone. Differing atmospheric conditions can make it easier or harder for a pitcher to control their pitches. Also differences in foul ground can make at bats shorter or longer because a foul that is caught in one park but in the stands in another means a longer at bat in the park with less foul ground, and thus more chance at a walk. There's probably some other stuff I'm forgetting here but its a very real and measurable factor Kevin Goldstein a little while ago tweeted that parks can have different K-rates as well. He cited Shea as a better K-rate park because the lighting behind home plate wasn't as good as other stadiums.
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| # ¿ Aug 3, 2011 16:02 |
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I CHALLENGE THEE posted:There are definitely certain stadiums where players throw breaking balls less. I don't remember any off the top of my head of course but I think Arlington is one that stands out in my mind. Probably Arizona and Colorado?
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| # ¿ Aug 3, 2011 17:13 |
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Usual protocol in those situations is 3B/SS fields, 2B covers second, 1B covers first, pitcher covers any base that's not covered (usually 3B), but the best part of that play is everyone on the A's forgot how to play defense. The 2B was wondering in right field for some reason, the short stop and third baseman both had a chance to cover third and weren't thinking and the pitcher stood on the mound and watched it all.
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 Here comes an international free agent primer. First, 95% of all players entered MLB by signing a standard minor league contract (team-friendly, low annual pay) with a bonus at a young age, grew up in the organization and played for that team. By the time they hit the majors, they're under what's called a rookie contract: -3 years of league minimum pay. -3 years of arbitration. "Super 2" players are the exception to this (has anyone done a post on this?) At the end of their final year of arbitration, they're free to test the free agent market unrestricted, so long as they didn't agree to any extensions. Players in the minors can be traded, DFA'd, etc., but the contract remains the same. As soon as their service time clock starts, they're all getting paid the same (unless they agreed to a major league contract, but that poo poo's retarded). *If you're wondering why this is so common when there are so many players in MLB with so many different backgrounds, it's because MLB is meticulous about scouting. Very few players slip through the cracks. There are academies in virtually every country in the world now. The Dominican Republic has its own developmental league. Japan has its own fully functioning professional league and independent league. MLB has, in the past 20 years, made a very strong, concerted effort to revive baseball in inner cities in America. On top of that, as opposed to the NFL or NBA, maybe one player a year, if that, is prepared to make the jump from college to the pros. It takes years to learn the sophisticated movements for pitching and batting and make them repeatable. Because of this, MLB gets them young. Most international players, and especially ones in the latin countries, are signed at VERY young ages (16 or 17) in order to give them more sophisticated coaching and develop them in time to be ready for the majors. That said, the two biggest international free agent spots are Japan and Cuba. Japan benefits from having a competitive league of its own and the league is autonomous, though Nippon Professional Baseball and MLB do have a lot of crossover. Japanese players need to accrue nine years of service time before they can hit international free agency. At that point, they can sign with any MLB or NPB team they want. If the player wants to go to America before the service time is over, he must ask his team to put his negotiating rights up for bidding to MLB teams. This is called posting, as in "The Nippon Ham Fighters posted Hideki Matsui and the Yankees won the rights to exclusively negotiate with Matsui on a contract." His NPB team may decline to post him, but if they approve, MLB teams bid for the exclusive negotiating rights. After MLB Team X wins the posting rights, Team X then signs him to a contract. Yes, Team X has to pay twice over, though the posting fee is usually taken into consideration in the contract. Every once in a while, the MLB team will pay the posting fee and be unable to reach a deal on the contract. The Japanese player then returns home and plays for his team again (I think). Iwakuma and the Oakland A's is the most recent example of this. However, this is very rare since teams usually sink a lot of money into the posting fee. Almost every player who's been posted from NPB has signed to an MLB team. Because the player was already active in Japan, he almost always makes the jump directly to the majors. Ichiro and Daisuke Cocksuzaka were both posted; Hideki Matsui and Hiroki Kuroda both signed with MLB teams after accrued service time. Only three Japanese players in history have dodged the NPB and jumped straight to MLB's minor league system via international free agency--Junichi Tazawa was the most recent and he signed a 3-year/3 mil deal with the Red Sox in 2009. Tazawa, who went undrafted out of high school, played a year in Japan's corporate league (junior circuit) and asked NPB teams to not draft him the following year so he could play in MLB. They all complied. Cubans are usually the only ones that hit the international free agent market without restrictions because they defect. Because Cuba has such an advanced national team and development system, Cubans are usually better prepared for and old enough to play in the majors when they defect, though some come raw-er than others. A Cuban player will play with his national team for however long and then, on a road trip in another country, abandon his team. This is how he defects. After the player gets some time to adjust to living away from home, the player usually does a public workout for teams. The player sets a deadline and teams have that many days to offer a contract. The team that offers the highest-paying contract is usually the winner. Aroldis Chapman is the most famous international free agent in recent years. I believe Adeinis Hechevarria (another Cuban) was another international free agent. These are the very few exceptions. Almost everyone else goes the scout-bonus-develop-rookie contract route.
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Dusseldorf posted:You can't mention this without pointing out that Kazuhito Tadano was able to go right into the Indian's organization from Japan because he got himself blacklisted from NPB by starring in a gay porno. hahaha i fuckin completely forgot about that
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| # ¿ Aug 17, 2011 04:21 |
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Rights for draft picks can't be traded. Philly didn't sign him, so he went back into the draft the next year and Philly lost the pick.
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The Blue Caboose posted:Chase also has an elevation thing going for it, I think. If I recall correctly it is at 1,200 feet and is significantly smaller than Coors. To further that, Atlanta's Fulton County Stadium was at about 1,000 feet elevation (the highest in baseball until Coors) and known as The Launching Pad because it was such a + homers park.
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