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DrGonzo90 posted:So Topps is basically the only game in town anymore, with Upper Deck doing as best it can and then a couple other also-rans? And Topps releases like 20 different kinds of insert cards/autograph series along with the base set? Topps is the only game in town since last year, as they have an MLB-exclusive license. Except for Topps, there's one small company that does a prospects series, but other than that, it's just Topps. Upper Deck got into a major lawsuit/scandal for counterfeiting Yugioh cards, and lost their MLB, NFL, and NBA licenses. Typically, a set will have a large base set, and 4-5 small insert sets. There's also a jersey card set, and an autograph set per product. Super high-end products will have a lot more jersey/autograph cards, if not entirely those. DrGonzo90 posted:Does everyone just buy hobby boxes hoping to get really rare autographed and cut-up jersey insert cards? Depends. Hobby boxes are much better to build a set with fewer doubles, hobby boxes have better odds at getting jersey/auto cards (and better ones), and there's usually certain extras that come with hobby boxes (like special inserts or promotions). DrGonzo90 posted:Basically, can someone fill me in on the baseball card landscape as it stands right now and the best way to get back into the game in order to have fun and maybe get something cool? Are there low-budget and high-budget groups or does everyone just buy random packs/boxes? Right now, Topps is making about a dozen releases over the course of a season. Here's what is out, so far: - Topps - The basic set that has come out for 60 years. 330 base cards, along with gold, diamond, and HOF parallels. This set also has a bunch of inserts, a Topps 60 jersey set, a Topps 60 autograph set, and in jumbo hobby boxes, cards with leather nameplates embedded in them. This set has been out since February. Series 2 comes out in April/May. - Topps Heritage - This set has come out for over ten years, and it is a vintage style set with each release paralleling a historical Topps set. This year's version is in the style of 1962 Topps, with similar looking cards, insert/jersey/autograph cards relating to 1962, and gimmick cards (like stamps) that were produced back then. There are only 1-2 big hits per box, but those could include HOF jersey cards and autographs. One big thing in this year's set is Sandy Koufax signing for the first time in years. This set came out this week.
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DrGonzo90 posted:OK thanks for the info. It sounds like there are still a ton of sets, they're just all Topps now - that's kind of annoying. I guess maybe I'll start with the basic set and pick one of the other sets to mess around with. The problem is that I don't like feeling that my collection is incomplete but it would be impossible to collect all the sets. It almost makes me not want to start collecting again at all. If you give people too many choices it makes it harder to make a decision. What kind of sets would you be looking for? Even though all the sets are made by Topps, there really isn't much of a connection between the majority of all the sets.
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Mar 20, 2011 23:37
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We should do it later in the season, when there's more "fun" products out.
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Apr 22, 2011 01:58
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I can ship combined orders to anyone internationally who wants to do this and the football breaks.
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Strong Sauce posted:So I got a box of cheapos (Opening Day) and not-so-cheapos (Gypsy Queen), which one should I open first? Do the Opening Day first, then the Gypsy Queen. And post what you get here!
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EllisD posted:I'll stick with my price guide value The only reason why they're worth so much money is that everyone threw theirs out, creating scarcity. While some of the reason for '80s-'90s cards being useless is that there were so many made, another reason is that everyone saved the cards, thinking they'll make a fortune.
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My store is running a live auction event on Saturday, with internet and phone bdding included. Lots of crazy stuff, from HOF autos (Ruth, Cobb, et cetera) to lower end items like complete sets and photos. Check it out. http://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/1221402.html https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vj5UYg627sMZX5yd7yIh7JUKK2Hti3CVsiKKbH_TyxU/edit?hl=en_US If you have any questions, email me at gordie.fall@gmail.com, please. I figure that some goons might want some of this stuff, or at least check out some cool items. AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Aug 23, 2011 |
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Dan Hollis posted:I just did some research on this and is it true the real valuable cards have metal framing that allow hobby shops to identify the boxes that have them by using a metal detector and keep them away from suckers like me? From what I've seen at my store, the Marquee cards are incredibly sweet. Best card that I've seen so far was a giant Johnny Mize bat, and a giant Fergie Jenkins jersey card with an attached autograph. With all products, we usually keep all boxes sealed, or everything kept in the case. Marquee actually has four little boxes with a pack in each, inside a larger box. There's ways to try and weigh the boxes (which is why we don't let customers feel around those packs), but the best cards aren't always the thick ones. For the metal things, card companies have typically made cards of precious metals as redemptions, so certain people don't just feel around for them. For stores, we're usually very careful of who we purchase boxes from. There's a couple times where we got burnt from loose boxes that had nothing big inside of them.
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jeffersonlives posted:Here's a Three Finger Brown T206 I picked up today: Post it up! I've got the Michigan guys from that set.
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Chief McHeath posted:I agree. There won't be basketball card people until the lockout is over...no 2011-12 products will come out until the owners and players agree.
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Schremp Howard posted:Is that part of their agreement? I remember hockey had a few lackluster NHL products and then some really sweet releases by ITG during the lockout that focused on junior/foreign leagues and individual players based on who would sign a licensing agreement with them. The NHL/NHLPA's agreement with licensed companies is different than the NBA's. Hockey had a Upper Deck, SP Authentic, and Ultimate sets come out with current players, and some ITG sets with retired players. The NBA is apparently not even allowing new products to be developed. There are no preorders, no release dates, nothing. Even the NFL had products in the pipeline during their lockout. Weirdly enough, the NBA is the only league to completely strip all current players from their websites and properties during their negotiations, so I'd assume it's all part of the same separation.
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Spork Heidelberg posted:Does anyone know where I might find an overview of all card sets produced, for say, just 2011? Like a flow chart of which company makes which cards, to get me started? All the different sets with their refractor, chrome, regular cards, signature, subsets within sets, etc, etc, has my head ready to explode! My Google-fu has been weak on this one and I need some help. The short summary for this year is that Topps is the exclusive manufacturer for MLB, and they produced around 8-10 releases, all of which have some inserts, jersey cards, autographs, et cetera. I'll write up a bigger thing later, but every set has a certain gimmick or niche to it, and most of them cam seem complex but aren't really that bad.
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I also work part-time at a giant sports memorabilia store, so if you need a certain thing, I can probably hunt one down or point you in the right direction.
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Spork Heidelberg posted:I agree with you though, there's nothing like those old cards to have and look at, to imagine what baseball was like back in the day. In my opinion, for a purely fun product, I'd go with 2011 Topps Lineage. It's all baseball; it has current stars, legends and rookies; it has a lot of fun insert sets and is relatively inexpensive to build. The Topps sets are fun to build, but considering how expensive boxes have been this year, I'd recommend buying the factory set for Series 1 and 2, and then get packs and boxes of Topps Update. That would get you the "full" set with not as much cost and work.
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Spork Heidelberg posted:Thanks for your suggestions. After checking on pricing, I decided to go for Topps Series 1, 2 and Update. I bought some Series 1 and some Lineage locally, paying $2.00/pack for Series 1 and $3.00/pack for Lineage. Series 1 has more cards per pack as well, so that's a bonus. Hobby boxes (especially jumbo boxes) shot way up because of the Diamond Anniversary promotion earlier this year, where the code cards inside could be redeemed for online prizes and potentially a Topps diamond/championship ring. People hoarded as many of those cards as possible for a month or two. Prices haven't gone too far down since.
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Nov 3, 2011 14:00
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anotherblownsave posted:I have a 2004 world series ball signed by Kevin Youkilis, anyone know where I could get a value on this? eBay. Check under current listings and completed listings.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Upper Deck, ladies and gentleman! And they wonder why that product doesn't sell for anything...
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Spork Heidelberg posted:Actually I really would like to know. Are you implying that stuff they use isn't genuine, or something else? I know UD has sold fake stuff in the past, like autos, but I thought it was because they had been duped themselves. From what I've seen in the industry, Panini is the best at getting legitimate/unique things for their products, Topps is mainly focused on rookies or legends, and Upper Deck is generally lazy and unimpressive. Not saying that this is a completely accurate generalization, but for customer service, Panini is by far the best. Also, what he may be implying is all the events used to generate tons of jerseys and autographs from rookies each year. Most of your big-name rookie cards have patches that are "event used", not game used.
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OctoberBlues posted:Yeah, this would be an amazing ask/tell thread if you don't want to fill this thread up with it. If you do, post the link to the thread here and I'm sure we'd be all over it. I'll second this idea.
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As always... - PSA is typically the best. - If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. There aren't deals in this industry.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Thanks, this is a cool link. I wish they explained more about what makes stuff fake, though. The very first thing, that Bill Clinton invitation, they just say "ha look at this PSA certified Bill Clinton autograph, too bad it's an autopen." Ok, what makes it an autopen? When put under closer examination, you can see things like how the pen stopped in certain places, the indents of the pen on the surface, and miniscule details like that. An autopen can make the same design, but not the same indentations like the actual signer.
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Spork Heidelberg posted:Here's the latest info from the Diamond Giveaway site (which is currently down): It's down now because 2012 Topps Baseball is now out.
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Boinks posted:Anyone doing 2012 Topps Series 1? After opening a hobby box today I'm still 35 cards away from the set and have a huge stack of doubles from opening some blasters last week. I typed out all my doubles and am ready to make some trades. I had cases opened. Send me the list you need (to the address you Paypaled the money to for the hockey breaks), and I'll send the cards along.
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theacox posted:I've been out of this for a long time. What's the general opinion on the Ebay box break team thing? We're doing some hockey box breaks in the hockey thread! If you wanted, I could get one going here too.
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I want to run this. I've run multiple hockey breaks on another thread, and run a sports card and collectibles store in metro Detroit. (If you need anything at all relating to this stuff, let me know.) Right now, I have 2012 Topps hobby and HTA jumbo boxes, plus lots of boxes and packs from 2011. I can also get in stock any products that you guys would want to break. I'd support any of the team distribution systems. Could we do something where everyone gets one hit-heavy team and one/two other teams, perhaps? Figure it out amongst you guys, and let's get something going.
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theacox posted:Same here. I'm pretty new to box breaks, so I'll probably have a bunch of questions. What are your questions?
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The biggest hits out of the 2012 Topps jumbo boxes have been these Retired Rings cards, super thick cards of legends that have a metal ring face embedded inside the card. I've got a bunch of them in, and before I put them online, I'd like to give anyone here a shot first. Email me if you have any questions (gordie dot fall at gmail dot com). I have a Frank Thomas (Chicago), Luis Aparicio (Chicago), Carlton Fisk (Boston), Tom Seaver (New York) x2, and Frank Robinson (Cincinnati).
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theacox posted:How exactly does the draft system work? What do we do with multi-player cards? Also, what do we do with redemptions? Will we do a live break? The draft system can work multiple ways, but it typically goes like one of these: - Everyone gets a number, and chooses teams in that order - Everyone picks one team, and gets assigned other teams - Everyone picks a number, and teams are randomly chosen and assigned - Everything is randomized I'd prefer the first or last options for baseball. ---- Multi-player cards can go to the first player pictured on the card, a coin flip, or to whichever side didn't get any other big hits. ---- Redemptions will be sent out like any other card. ---- The break will be videotaped, and posted to YouTube, like we've done with the hockey breaks. Anything else?
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theacox posted:I think that pretty much covers everything I had questions about. The slot price will be around $20-30, depending on how many teams you get and what we are opening. Some of the money depends on shipping costs.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Can you go into how much this would cost per person? Do we have to use pay pal? What if two people want the same team? First come first serve for teams if we pick them, with some teams unavailable (due to too many hits). Paypal is recommended, as I don't want to wait for mail to arrive. Cost depends on what everyone wants to break.
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Antifreeze Head posted:What is out right now other than Topps Series 1? I don't have it hanging around, but I can get it in!
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theacox posted:Maybe it would be easier if you gave us some choices, Howe. Um, pretty much anything can be ordered. If there was anything in particular you guys wanted, make a list and I'll come back with prices.
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mattfl posted:I was heavy into collecting about 4 or 6 years ago. I remember some of the most expensive stuff at the time was I think hobby boxes of SP Authentic? You got like 4 packs of like 5 cards in a box, they had these almost full size jersey/patch cards too. Those were awesome, Upper Deck makes/made SP Authentic right? Am I thinking of the right cards? Yes, Upper Deck makes SP Authentic. Only now they are down to the licenses they have left, the NHL, NCAA football, and NCAA basketball.
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Antifreeze Head posted:So how about prices for 2012 Series 1 HTA - $125 2011 Gypsy Queen - $189 2010 Heritage - $120 2009 Turkey Red - no Turkey Red in 2009 2008 UD Masterpieces - $75 2007 UD Masterpieces - $50
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Antifreeze Head posted:Series 1 works for me, though I wouldn't mind a cheap box getting added, like the 07 Masterpieces. When there is a huge gap in product releases, the last thing goers way up. Gypsy Queen was a mid-tier release that was the new thing on the market for a long time, so it sold out and created huge demand on the secondary market. The same thing happened at this time two years ago, when 2010 Topps basically sold because Heritage took so long to come out, as well as customers used to new baseball coming out every week. Having one manufacturer with long spans between releases caused older products to shoot up in price.
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2012 Topps Heritage comes in next week. I'd like to do a multiple box break with you guys on the release date. How many of you are in, and how much do you want to do? With a very rough estimate, slots are about $8.50 per box for 2-3 teams. This is anticipating us having 10 people buying in. Let's do this!
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camoseven posted:I would be down for this. Does that price include shipping? If so I could probably do 3 boxes. Shipping would be a little more if we get three boxes and you get a lot of cards. It's all weight based, and if you get over 3 ounces, the price goes up.
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jetgrindeggy posted:I could swing 25.50 plus shipping for three boxes too. It would be $25.50 or $26. Shipping one or two more ounces doesn't cost THAT much more.
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DrGonzo90 posted:This sounds interesting, I'm in. I could do 3 boxes. After teams get assigned, all the payment clears, all of that... I will record myself breaking the boxes, and the video will be posted on YouTube and linked to here. Then, everyone can watch the video and see what they got.
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