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Dickweasel Alpha
Feb 8, 2011

Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Backyard Blacksmith posted:

But seriously, anime is uniquely horrible.

I'll have you know that Magical Princess Panty Shot has artistic merit and it's only the people who give it a bad name that make it insufferable and not the casual yet intelligent fans like mys

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RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006
Do not engage or respond to me, as I am an insufferable prick. I love posting about posting or posters, rather than actual content. But it's cool because I'm smarter than you and have the correct opinion on every matter.

FrancisYorkPatty posted:

I'll have you know that Magical Princess Panty Shot has artistic merit and it's only the people who give it a bad name that make it insufferable and not the casual yet intelligent fans like mys

I think this exactly what they're talking about when they say people can't start talking about how awful (or great) anime is when it's brought up just fyi.

But I get what he's saying, he doesn't hate Asian gifs he just wishes they had their own separate but equal thread, so the white gifs don't have to look at them you see.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009


But what if complaining about memes has become a meme itself?

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


Someone in the gif thread requests someone make a gif into a meme/macro. Someone obliges, thus breaking the rules. However, they got a free pass because they were fulfilling someone's request. I'm not quite sure I agree with that logic.

We have a meme thread, and we have a request images thread, so those could be used to get images turned into macros. It's a rule for the gifs thread to keep memes/macros out, so posting one out of the goodness of your heart doesn't seem like a strong enough reason to avoid punishment.

Along the same lines, requesting or encouraging people to post images that are against the thread rules, that seems like it could be grounds for probation as well.

Dickweasel Alpha
Feb 8, 2011

Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Jamesman posted:

Someone in the gif thread requests someone make a gif into a meme/macro. Someone obliges, thus breaking the rules. However, they got a free pass because they were fulfilling someone's request. I'm not quite sure I agree with that logic.

We have a meme thread, and we have a request images thread, so those could be used to get images turned into macros. It's a rule for the gifs thread to keep memes/macros out, so posting one out of the goodness of your heart doesn't seem like a strong enough reason to avoid punishment.

Along the same lines, requesting or encouraging people to post images that are against the thread rules, that seems like it could be grounds for probation as well.

Its okay if your peas and chicken touch on your plate, nobody else at the dinner table is worried about it and it all ends up in your stomach anyway

A GLISTENING HODOR
Aug 8, 2009

lemoncakes?
lemoncakes?
fucking lemoncakes?
stop POSTING about FUCKING LEMONCAKES


Did you remember to turn around 3 times and snap your fingers before hitting "submit reply"?

(I think there's some germs on your keyboard)

dinozombiesgoRARR
Dec 25, 2010

Momma said knock you out

Jamesman posted:

Along the same lines, requesting or encouraging people to post images that are against the thread rules, that seems like it could be grounds for probation as well.

Well maybe the macro was only macroish and not macro enough for probation. Post it here so we know what we're talking about.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


dinozombiesgoRARR posted:

Well maybe the macro was only macroish and not macro enough for probation. Post it here so we know what we're talking about.



The problem is that in the past people have gotten probated for adding text to images and the GIF thread has gotten so strict that even GIFs from shows or movies with captions are relegated to the meme thread. I'd be perfectly happy with the rules getting relaxed but as they stand in the name of consistency if the person wanted to request the GIF be macro'd they should have gone to the image macro thread and requested it there.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

ChetReckless
Sep 16, 2009

That is precisely the thing to do, Avatar.


Oh no you fell into the trap!

Really, though, I'm sure if that kind of behaviour becomes an epidemic, it'll be dealt with. Incidentally it also says in the rules for the gif thread that subtitles are just fine, re: your concern with how strict the rules are. Course, it also says no macros, but it was just a request. I think you guys are over-thinking this a bit.

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005

I was getting sick of seeing that.


I've been thinking a general gif request thread might be a good idea, actually, to cover this. I'm a little tired of "Can someone make this avatar sized?" personally. Most pages in the thread have a request now so I think it would be sustainable. Plus people could do silly poo poo like "now make the table jiggle and the jello stay still" there. Would a separation make it better? Macro'd gif requests would be allowed there because that'd be where gif wizards are to be found.

I'm not going to probate someone for making a macro gif when someone else asked them to. I'm not going to probate someone for fulfilling a request, just like a zillion other requests have been fulfilled. If people POST macros unbidden, they'll be probated. If people start demanding macros all the time, I'll revisit the issue.

Subtitles and even impact-font-subtitles-that-totally-look-like-macros are not probateable anymore. I always try to read lips when I'm not sure which one it is. I'm virtually certain that cat didn't really say Deal With It, though, so that was an easy one.

I don't really even probate people in the gif thread a lot recently so I'm not sure about why you're concerned about it being strict It seems to have been running very well lately and I've been really pleased with how people have been staying interesting and/or gif-y.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

The gif thread is a fun place to talk about and share gifs that you find and make. You can hang out and chat or do whatever.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008

Send us signals in the glow
of night windows


There is a ridiculously huge amount of brony-chat going on PYF Fandom Lunacy, Image Macros, Awkward and Ugly, and at least one other thread that I can't recall. Only Awkward and Ugly allows bronies, but there is a lot of derail that is not about how awkward/ugly bronies are. I'd like to request some mod reminders that brony derails are terrible.

FedoraDefender420
Feb 25, 2011

I don't care how much money or how many white boys 50 cent can shoot. In front of James Hetfield he is a little bitch


The fandom lunacy thread one isn't much of a derail, it's well within the thread's intentions to discuss internet wierdos.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008

Send us signals in the glow
of night windows


I'd agree, except the Fandom Lunacy OP requests that discussion of MLP be kept to a minimum to avoid derails, and the thread is now discussing the same old same old subjects of "The target audience is little girls!" and simply rehashing the perpetual arguments that pop up whenever MLP is mentioned.

Yonic Symbolism
Nov 10, 2008



HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

I'd agree, except the Fandom Lunacy OP requests that discussion of MLP be kept to a minimum to avoid derails, and the thread is now discussing the same old same old subjects of "The target audience is little girls!" and simply rehashing the perpetual arguments that pop up whenever MLP is mentioned.

the bronies are exploding over one of their fancharacters being removed from the show, so it's not really a derail and more a reaction to a current event.

A GLISTENING HODOR
Aug 8, 2009

lemoncakes?
lemoncakes?
fucking lemoncakes?
stop POSTING about FUCKING LEMONCAKES


Yonic Symbolism posted:

the bronies are exploding over one of their fancharacters being removed from the show, so it's not really a derail and more a reaction to a current event.

This. We also had brony chat in the D&D reddit thread because they're melting down. And the other PYF threads are also tangentially related to it internet loonies and their weird habits, so why not enjoy the pony meltdown shitshow?

All in all, despite not knowing what the gently caress anyone was up in arms about, it's been a hilarious read across those four or five threads talking about it because those manchildren are apparently preparing to self-immolate because a character was changed.

MrBims
Sep 25, 2007

He eventually came to be regarded as the third and final Antichrist. No other human in history was responsible for more death and suffering.

'Derpygate' is the most hilarious thing in the world right now and is going to be around for a while, so I think distinction should be made between laughing at (as Yonic called it,) a current event, and making tired rehashes of the same "Ugh, I don't know how anyone could watch this, isn't this for kids?" posts that we have all seen hundreds of times already.

If a poster is trying to make a derail that no one wants, or is only there to troll, or is so white-noise that they may as well be emptyquoting, then they are in probate-able territory without MLP even being a factor.

Heath
Apr 29, 2008


Tony Danza Claus posted:

This. We also had brony chat in the D&D reddit thread because they're melting down. And the other PYF threads are also tangentially related to it internet loonies and their weird habits, so why not enjoy the pony meltdown shitshow?

All in all, despite not knowing what the gently caress anyone was up in arms about, it's been a hilarious read across those four or five threads talking about it because those manchildren are apparently preparing to self-immolate because a character was changed.



This sounds amazing. Do you have a link to about where it starts in the Reddit thread?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006
Do not engage or respond to me, as I am an insufferable prick. I love posting about posting or posters, rather than actual content. But it's cool because I'm smarter than you and have the correct opinion on every matter.

Heath posted:

This sounds amazing. Do you have a link to about where it starts in the Reddit thread?

Yeah I'd like to see some of this. I gave up on the reddit around SA's "raid" on it because even though great stuff was happening it was ballooning too fast for me to keep up.

Backyard Blacksmith
Jul 4, 2008


I made a new rule. Just letting everyone know. Any questions, comments, or suggestions on it?

Infected Mushroom
Nov 4, 2009


Backyard Blacksmith posted:

I made a new rule. Just letting everyone know. Any questions, comments, or suggestions on it?

Is this a "do it or you're probated" rule, or "if you don't do it you might be probabated by accident"?

Backyard Blacksmith
Jul 4, 2008


Infected Mushroom posted:

Is this a "do it or you're probated" rule, or "if you don't do it you might be probabated by accident"?

Pretty much the second one. Sometimes it's obvious that it's subtitles, sometimes it's not.

e. In the recent case of boo radley, it should have been obvious to me that it was subtitles, but I didn't know because I'm dumb.

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005

I was getting sick of seeing that.


Backyard Blacksmith posted:

I made a new rule. Just letting everyone know. Any questions, comments, or suggestions on it?

Yeah, I made the subtitles are okay rule because people were reporting obvious subtitles as macros, and now we're getting quotes but in macro text and it can be write hard to tell. I end up lip reading gifs which is frankly absurd. Good rule.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Backyard Blacksmith posted:

Pretty much the second one. Sometimes it's obvious that it's subtitles, sometimes it's not.

e. In the recent case of boo radley, it should have been obvious to me that it was subtitles, but I didn't know because I'm dumb.

Nah, I shoulda pointed it out because it's not that yellow "subtitle" font. It does make me want to send you a copy of Army of Darkness, though.

RandomFerret
Apr 18, 2008

WHAT IS A JUGGALO?
A HULKAMANIAC

HE POWERBOMBS MOTHERFUCKERS INTO THUMBTACKS


Why are macros even banned in image threads? The point of the site-wide macro ban was to keep people from making GBS threads up discussion threads with a picture of a cat saying "I LIKE YOUR POST." If it's just a thread for posting funny pictures there's no real reason to single out the ones that have words on them.

Seems to me that macros have been banned for so long that the letter of the law has completely obscured the spirit.

Ixiggle
Apr 28, 2009


RandomFerret posted:

Why are macros even banned in image threads? The point of the site-wide macro ban was to keep people from making GBS threads up discussion threads with a picture of a cat saying "I LIKE YOUR POST." If it's just a thread for posting funny pictures there's no real reason to single out the ones that have words on them.

Seems to me that macros have been banned for so long that the letter of the law has completely obscured the spirit.

Some people passionately hate image macros and its easier to put them into its own thread than to constantly try and reign in derails in the main thread. It will always get debated abotu if they're funny or lovely or "oh this one is good" so its better to keep it separate for mod sanity. See also the anime gif thread, made for pretty much the same reason.

Bubble Bathory
Apr 22, 2008

HELLO, YES, THIS IS BUBBLE BATHORY. LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE WHO CAN'T STOP POSTING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE LOVES MEMES.

THAT'S THE JOKE.


I doubt the moratorium on macros/memes is going to be lifted any day soon, and it really shouldn't be. It still serves its purpose; we can see that on the occasion when some retard posts one outside the graciously designated meme zone, and you realize how inappropriate, unfunny, and lazy they are outside of that context.
You might get a laugh out of it but that's not reason enough to go hogwild and allow them everywhere. They are counterproductive to content posting, period.
The letter of the law is the same as the spirit in this case: compared to almost everything else, macros/memes are lazy and lovely, don't post them where other things are happening.
Note: this isn't me "passionately hating image macros," I follow that thread to get the good ones, and have contributed to it too.

Captain von Trapp
Jan 22, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

From the macro thread:

Butt Wizard posted:

And the Asian Father meme is really pretty racist. And the Good Gamer Girl meme is in fact horribly sexist. And the old You Gonna Get Raped macro of an older black man was really racist and also apparently hosed over the man in the picture. The internet is always going to be full of horrible poo poo. If you find it offensive, report it. I and the other mods will sort it out. Talking about it in this thread just leads to awful derails.

Just to things about the homeless guy a little, it turns out that the sad story about the macro ruining that guy's life was fabricated from thin air. It came up a long time ago either earlier in the thread or maybe in an earlier version of the thread and got debunked pretty readily.

CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole


Anyone else getting tired of those loving "No1curr" macros in the macro thread? If anybody posts any sentence ever it's like a contest to see who can fly in and post a macro so tired even 4chan would think it's old.

Macros are always just the same poo poo over and over but jumpin' jesus this is way worse than "watch out we got a badass" ever was.

RandomFerret
Apr 18, 2008

WHAT IS A JUGGALO?
A HULKAMANIAC

HE POWERBOMBS MOTHERFUCKERS INTO THUMBTACKS


CongoJack posted:

Anyone else getting tired of those loving "No1curr" macros in the macro thread? If anybody posts any sentence ever it's like a contest to see who can fly in and post a macro so tired even 4chan would think it's old.

Macros are always just the same poo poo over and over but jumpin' jesus this is way worse than "watch out we got a badass" ever was.

Ha! I'm not falling for that one!

Lazy Programming
Oct 3, 2010

Filled with sage wisdom


It served a purpose in trying to beat people over the head that we really do not care about how this macro totally happened to you one day or whatever the hell you learned on wikipedia for when a thread title, a rule in the OP, and a bunch of probations just isn't enough. Now people are posting the macro to their own posts and that is just stupid as hell and completely missing the point. I'm in favor of posting that macro to your own post being treated the same as reporting your own post or using the phrase, "I don't want to derail but...". The problem isn't the macro, it's that people keep posting derails.

Lazy Programming fucked around with this message at Mar 19, 2012 around 23:04

Bubble Bathory
Apr 22, 2008

HELLO, YES, THIS IS BUBBLE BATHORY. LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE WHO CAN'T STOP POSTING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE LOVES MEMES.

THAT'S THE JOKE.


Lazy Programming posted:

It served a purpose in trying to beat people over the head that we really do not care about how this macro totally happened to you one day or whatever the hell you learned on wikipedia for when a thread title, a rule in the OP, and a bunch of probations just isn't enough. Now people are posting the macro to their own posts and that is just stupid as hell and completely missing the point. I'm in favor of posting that macro to your own post being treated the same as reporting your own post or using the phrase, "I don't want to derail but...". The problem isn't the macro, it's that people keep posting derails.

It only served the purpose some of the time anyway. It's used inappropriately and as a knee-jerk "OH MY GOD TEXT IN AN IMAGE THREAD SHUTUP LOL" kind of way, almost just as often. That's an okay response sometimes, but it's a gross overreaction when someone is just being helpful, or contributing to a short derail which several people may even find interesting and spans all of about three posts.
It's just as unfunny as "badass every page" and I'm glad to see people coming around to realizing it.

Bubble Bathory fucked around with this message at Mar 20, 2012 around 00:17

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

I, for one, think that the "badass over here" is funny every time, especially when limited to once a page. Please don't take that one away too!

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Bubble Bathory posted:

It only served the purpose some of the time anyway. It's used inappropriately and as a knee-jerk "OH MY GOD TEXT IN AN IMAGE THREAD SHUTUP LOL" kind of way, almost just as often. That's an okay response sometimes, but it's a gross overreaction when someone is just being helpful, or contributing to a short derail which several people may even find interesting and spans all of about three posts.
It's just as unfunny as "badass every page" and I'm glad to see people coming around to realizing it.

Do you feel pensive whenever you write about the meme thread? Like do you get worried about what your AV will turn into? Not a dig on you, but I'd fret in your situation.


I think the no1curr thing maybe needs to be rationed a bit and BB's coin-flipping thing is probably an awesome way to do that. When it returns to a lower, less thread-self-referencing level, maybe he can put the coin away.

edit: oh snap, harmburger's tempting fate as we speak.

flatluigi
Apr 22, 2008

here come the planes


I honestly think if you're a frequent poster in the macro/meme thread you should be subjected to everything that falls under that banner, whether it's mediocre or outright terrible.

But I'm biased.

Dickweasel Alpha
Feb 8, 2011

Mod Secrets #614 - Experto Crede is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Instead of just posting "No1Curr" maybe report the posts instead? Or at least post new No1Curr gifs instead of the same ones.

CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole


Thanks Backyard Blacksmith for being hands on with your forums and being cool in general.

Clavius
Oct 21, 2007

Howdy!

As an avid forums reader and macro enthusiast, I have to say the no1curr images had a significant impact on my forums exparble garble harble fart butt the macro thread is dumb and funny and you should probably post something funny in response to macros you find distasteful or get out.

dinozombiesgoRARR
Dec 25, 2010

Momma said knock you out

CongoJack posted:

Anyone else getting tired of those loving "No1curr" macros in the macro thread?

I actually had to google it just now to figure out what it meant. I've never actually come acrossa a no1curr macro appear in a thread I was reading but I'm pre-emptively sick and tired of them.

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Heath
Apr 29, 2008


It took me a long time to figure out what no1curr even meant. It's not immediately obvious and just comes across as jibberish to me so it was getting a bit on the irritating side.

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