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Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


Wafflecop posted:

Downloaded Screw the Throne last night. Just listened to it and heard what I assume was Frank Ocean singing about baby jesus, switched over to the new Meek Mills tape. Much better, Ima Boss had me excited for this one. Also just remembered to check out Ferrari Boyz at some point, good times yo.

honestly that's the best joint on there too but if you don't like Frank Ocean then there's nothing there it's not really a particularly good CnS.

Overall I don't have much of an opinion on the actual Watch the Throne. I listened to it while falling asleep the other night, the production was nice. If you were expecting fantastic raps you were dreaming since Kanye has never really made it above competent imo and Jay-Z could have stayed mostly retired since he's only made a handful of good songs in the past five years.

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chopper city
May 30, 2009

you in the choppa zone
where choppas is a must


Ferrari Boyz kinda fuckin sucks. Why is Waka whisper shouting his energy was really the only thing he had going for him. Too Loyal is basically the only semi-banger

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

me reading your posts

Success is Certain needs skits. All rap albums need skits and I'm seeing a trend of not having skits and I don't like it.

caveman thug shit
Jan 27, 2007

STREET SMART


Robert Analog posted:

Success is Certain needs skits. All rap albums need skits and I'm seeing a trend of not having skits and I don't like it.

you and i are the only ones that think this, but ill add that they all need to take their cues from redman

ASL NIGGA
Nov 26, 2009

by T. Mascis


caveman thug poo poo posted:

you and i are the only ones that think this, but ill add that they all need to take their cues from redman

Maaaan... Man Man, Man.

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


caveman thug poo poo posted:

you and i are the only ones that think this, but ill add that they all need to take their cues from redman

The world needs another installment of Soopaman Luva

caveman thug shit
Jan 27, 2007

STREET SMART


ASL NIGGA posted:

Maaaan... Man Man, Man.

i only met her once, but i hosed her twice. elbow macaroni, bitch.

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

human garbage


Wafflecop posted:

Downloaded Screw the Throne last night. Just listened to it and heard what I assume was Frank Ocean singing about baby jesus, switched over to the new Meek Mills tape. Much better, Ima Boss had me excited for this one. Also just remembered to check out Ferrari Boyz at some point, good times yo.

Listening to the Meek Mill tape right now, its good. Is their a version that isnt so trebly? i know its a streaming mixtape but i want that luger kick to shake my house

gonna listen to ferrari boys next and the featured flocka tape too!

100% Dundee
Oct 11, 2004


I think the problem with Watch the Throne is that everyone was apparently expecting the second coming of jesus with this album or something, so theres no way it could live up to that. Personally I had no idea the album was coming out and I was very pleasantly surprised with it. As many have said, the production is great. There's some great samples, great beats and good lyrics, you just have to skip past the straight filler stuff(New Day, Welcome to the Jungle, Made in America come to mind). The Joy, Gotta Have it, Why I Love You are some of the best tracks Ive heard as of late though, they even tricked me into enjoying a song with Beyonce.

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006


Robert Analog posted:

Success is Certain needs skits. All rap albums need skits and I'm seeing a trend of not having skits and I don't like it.

I don't like skits but I can deal with them as long as they are separate tracks so I can skip 'em. It's aggravating listening to Ironman cause I gotta wait a minute til i hear Ghost and it kills the momentum

farmtrill
Feb 2, 2006



100% Dundee posted:

I think the problem with Watch the Throne is that everyone was apparently expecting the second coming of jesus with this album or something, so theres no way it could live up to that.

honestly i think thats just a sly way of pushing aside some very real complaints about that album. its all over the place, trying to be so many things but not really succeeding in any of them.

no-one was exactly expecting stellar raps but it was pretty poo poo compared to what they just did together on MBDTF and the production... just seemed like kanye + the guest producers were trying to add little touches here and there that they heard in non hip-hop music but instead of being something new and exciting it was like cut and paste "oh here goes the dubstep bit here".

i imagine MBDTF probably sounded like this in the early stages until they smoothed that poo poo out and worked on it until it didnt sound awkward and forced. it was clearly rushed (despite the huge delay)

e: just cause i was in the mood for some duo bizness this week i listened to birdman & weezy - like father like son' on the way to work yesterday and enjoyed it much better. i dunno who this is more embarassing for, jay&kanye or me

farmtrill fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2011 around 07:23

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


I think it can be broken down like this

Awesome/Great Songs:
No Church In The Wild
Niggas in Paris
Gotta Have It
The Joy

Good Songs:
Otis
Why I Love You
Illest Motherfucker Alive
Primetime

Decent or Worse:
New Day
Welcome to the Jungle
Murder To Excellence
Who Gon Stop Me

Pop Songs Which Shall Not Be Ranked:
Lift Off

Again the production is mostly excellent all the way across but in terms of what I actually want to listen to after hearing the album a lot. I think New Day is cool but ultimately is trying to be the "deep/meaningful" song with substance but comes off kind of forced and same thing with Murder but worse. H*A*M hangs out in Lex Luger Limbo because it's one of my favorites but I feel like I'm very alone in that opinion and I think I'm just excited to hear Ye/Jay on a Luger beat

Bigdee4933
Jun 15, 2006
Bigdee4933

OTIS video is out http://youtu.be/BoEKWtgJQAU

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


farmtrill posted:

e: just cause i was in the mood for some duo bizness this week i listened to birdman & weezy - like father like son' on the way to work yesterday and enjoyed it much better. i dunno who this is more embarassing for, jay&kanye or me

nothing on Watch the Throne has anything like the legs of Stuntin Like My Daddy

DividedFrame
Apr 3, 2010


Judging by the recent posts here, I might be barking up the wrong tree, but I'm looking for some less-mainstream hip hop that has the same sound and feel as stuff like Kanye or Doomtree. Most of the names that I saw dropped lately (Ferrari Boyz, Royce) have, in my opinion, a really flat sound. The beat is the same throughout the entire song and there's nothing to really keep my interest, musically. And then the lyrics and videos are just guns and money, ad nauseum. It gets old pretty fast.

Other things I like: Eminem, Tech N9ne, Childish Gambino (hipster alert?), some Dre and Jay-Z.

Or if you want to take this opportunity to tell me how wrong I am , fire away.

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

human garbage


Jock Mocken posted:

nothing on Watch the Throne has anything like the legs of Stuntin Like My Daddy

I totally forgot about that song. Was Pop bottles on thator not? I cant remember. That song is a serious jam, like literally everyone likes that fuckin song. Play it at a party and people go n uts

Perpetual Ascent
Feb 24, 2008

His haunts are not confined to the valley, but extend at times to the adjacent roads...


DividedFrame posted:

Judging by the recent posts here, I might be barking up the wrong tree, but I'm looking for some less-mainstream hip hop that has the same sound and feel as stuff like Kanye or Doomtree. Most of the names that I saw dropped lately (Ferrari Boyz, Royce) have, in my opinion, a really flat sound. The beat is the same throughout the entire song and there's nothing to really keep my interest, musically. And then the lyrics and videos are just guns and money, ad nauseum. It gets old pretty fast.

Other things I like: Eminem, Tech N9ne, Childish Gambino (hipster alert?), some Dre and Jay-Z.

Or if you want to take this opportunity to tell me how wrong I am , fire away.

hahaha

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003

i advise you to step, son

chopper city posted:

Ferrari Boyz kinda fuckin sucks. Why is Waka whisper shouting his energy was really the only thing he had going for him. Too Loyal is basically the only semi-banger

No way, I mean yeah everything in life could use more Flocka yelling but overall it goes hard. Ferrari Boyz, I Don't See U, 15th And The 1st, What The Hell, Mud Musik are crazy. It's also the most energized I've heard Gucci flow in a long time.

Chade Johnson
Oct 12, 2009

by Ozmaugh


DividedFrame posted:

Judging by the recent posts here, I might be barking up the wrong tree, but I'm looking for some less-mainstream hip hop that has the same sound and feel as stuff like Kanye or Doomtree. Most of the names that I saw dropped lately (Ferrari Boyz, Royce) have, in my opinion, a really flat sound. The beat is the same throughout the entire song and there's nothing to really keep my interest, musically. And then the lyrics and videos are just guns and money, ad nauseum. It gets old pretty fast.

Other things I like: Eminem, Tech N9ne, Childish Gambino (hipster alert?), some Dre and Jay-Z.

Or if you want to take this opportunity to tell me how wrong I am , fire away.

Jedi Mind Tricks, "Violent By Design" and "The psychosocial cd"

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

Bee is stronger than flower. Goliad is stronger than bee. Goliad is stronger than all.


Am I the only one who thinks the Psycho-Social album sounds like a parody of everything terrible about underground rap

I really dug some of the later Jedi Mind Tricks stuff but that album, gently caress, what the hell

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


DividedFrame posted:

Judging by the recent posts here, I might be barking up the wrong tree, but I'm looking for some less-mainstream hip hop that has the same sound and feel as stuff like Kanye or Doomtree. Most of the names that I saw dropped lately (Ferrari Boyz, Royce) have, in my opinion, a really flat sound. The beat is the same throughout the entire song and there's nothing to really keep my interest, musically. And then the lyrics and videos are just guns and money, ad nauseum. It gets old pretty fast.

Other things I like: Eminem, Tech N9ne, Childish Gambino (hipster alert?), some Dre and Jay-Z.

Or if you want to take this opportunity to tell me how wrong I am , fire away.

Focusing on producers since that seems to be what you're looking for, my top rec for you is the Block Beattaz, especially their work with G-Side, which I've hyped in this thread before. They're one of the most creative production teams working today and ST 2 Lettaz is one hell of a rapper (Clova is alright too). The ONE... Cohesive album which came out in January was all Block Beattaz production, with another on the way in November.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a84r6be3p0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7Xk_SQ4mA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBrkXvQZdI

Polow da Don is a pretty talented producer, but he tends to go for the pop money more than hip-hop; he's probably best known for his work on Rich Boy's debut. The songs with Ms. Keri have rap verses so they count as at least rap'n'b.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9LvtiwbnGo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrej0HfjMoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwG6vD2vP8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNvbS0XUZWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BoWi1AcFk8

DJ Burn One has pretty much settled into his country-funk-rap-tune-producer groove. Definitely influenced by Pimp C but he does his own (dope) thing. Check out Joints for a gang of talented rappers over his beats and The Ashtray for clean instrumentals. He also used to use Mick Vegas as his producer pseudonym.

Big K.R.I.T also does his thing, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpdX14zmQtI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvBKD3dGnF8

Drumma Boy makes some crazy-rear end beats but there's a good chance the artists he usually works with aren't your thing ANYWAY here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0Sb8gS6CA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vp-3mHS2Wc
(the part where the beat flips into reverse on Photo Shoot owns)

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

I totally forgot about that song. Was Pop bottles on thator not? I cant remember. That song is a serious jam, like literally everyone likes that fuckin song. Play it at a party and people go n uts

nah I just looked it up and that was on 5 Star Stunna but yeah

Cart Mountain
Nov 1, 2004

GBS Owns.

no. please dont do this again.

K-Flow
Nov 20, 2004



rich boy raps like he can't open his mouth properly or something

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005


GET MONEY posted:

No way, I mean yeah everything in life could use more Flocka yelling but overall it goes hard. Ferrari Boyz, I Don't See U, 15th And The 1st, What The Hell, Mud Musik are crazy. It's also the most energized I've heard Gucci flow in a long time.

No love for Young Niggaz or Feed Me?! I'll agree though, I haven't listened to Writings on The Wall 2 but Gucci had me snoring through Gucci 2 Time. It also had lovely mastering so that may have been a part of it :p

ALSO, new ASAP Rocky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob3ktDxAjWI

I love this kid

Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2011 around 04:25

Jock Mocken
Apr 6, 2005

on point like a unicorn, strapped like tha unabomb
everyday a work day but dont wear a uniform
Gucci Mane a dapper don, capper like a Capricorn


Beowulf LaGrange posted:

no. please dont do this again.

Yeah you're probably right I should have stopped with the block beattaz

Rich boy's delivery has really improved since that first album but he still sounds country as gently caress

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003

i advise you to step, son

Boywhiz88 posted:

ALSO, new ASAP Rocky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob3ktDxAjWI

I love this kid

So good.

Re: Rich Boy, thanks for reminding me how awesome Let's Get This Paper is. I dunno if he's in label limbo or what since I think Polow was having some issues, but I'd really like to see a second album.

jazz babies
Mar 7, 2007




I still remember when he was on Degrassi as the basketball star who got paralyzed by a crazy kid who shot him.

Chade Johnson
Oct 12, 2009

by Ozmaugh


Haledjian posted:

Am I the only one who thinks the Psycho-Social album sounds like a parody of everything terrible about underground rap

I really dug some of the later Jedi Mind Tricks stuff but that album, gently caress, what the hell

I mean I really dig some of the terrible underground rap or whatever, but I think that the beats really make the album. Rapping about supreme mathematics and poo poo can be laughably bad at times but the production really is top notch, almost psychedelic in a way. It's one of the only rap albums I can listen to on mushrooms, for what its worth.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


jazz babies posted:

I still remember when he was on Degrassi as the basketball star who got paralyzed by a crazy kid who shot him.

Oh you remember that? Cool

chopper city
May 30, 2009

you in the choppa zone
where choppas is a must


I didn't know who Drake was for the longest time because every time I heard him on a track I thought it was Lil Wayne. Wayne AKA 2 pistols

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

pasar el rato


I'm late as hell for this but i'm totally digging The Mouse and the Mask

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyc18mEZJzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKJ523x0qo8

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Quit hatin' the South


I'm probably the biggest Doom fan on here but that album was horrible and probably the worst he's ever done (even worse than VV2).

Diodeous
May 14, 2002



GET MONEY posted:

So good.

Re: Rich Boy, thanks for reminding me how awesome Let's Get This Paper is. I dunno if he's in label limbo or what since I think Polow was having some issues, but I'd really like to see a second album.

All of Rich Boy's mixtapes have been great so far, but I got a question for fans of Rich Boy: have you guys listened to KD much at all? BurnOne did his first mixtape G-Fluid, and goddamn if he doesn't sound like Rich Boy over better beats. They're even from the same geographic area (Birmingham, Alabama IIRC), but the voice and delivery are really similar. To me it sounds like if Rich Boy had a smoother flow, but let me provide some evidence. What do you guys think?

KD ft Freddie Gibbs - Let Me Ride:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaaA4QVIyQ
(this one is from the BurnOne album)

Rich Boy - Put Me In The Game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1GPsVVVqP8

KD - Party:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DScFiooPQ

Rich Boy - You Betta Go Hard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VttIPUhDNAU
KD - Last Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shtGD-72Zsk

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008

by angerbeet


This Wayne - She Will ft. Drake has some weak-rear end lines "what goes around comes around like a hula hoop" (wtf wayne) but Drake absolutely murders the hook so I can stand it enough.

also seconding and thirding or whatevering any Ferrari Boyz cosigns.

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006



two things that I don't usually care about?
-A new song by The Game
-A new beat by DJ Premier

but, they made something decent.

http://www.hulkshare.com/8xz880soz3x3

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003

i advise you to step, son

Diodeous posted:

All of Rich Boy's mixtapes have been great so far, but I got a question for fans of Rich Boy: have you guys listened to KD much at all? BurnOne did his first mixtape G-Fluid, and goddamn if he doesn't sound like Rich Boy over better beats. They're even from the same geographic area (Birmingham, Alabama IIRC), but the voice and delivery are really similar. To me it sounds like if Rich Boy had a smoother flow, but let me provide some evidence. What do you guys think?

KD ft Freddie Gibbs - Let Me Ride:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaaA4QVIyQ
(this one is from the BurnOne album)

Rich Boy - Put Me In The Game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1GPsVVVqP8

KD - Party:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DScFiooPQ

Rich Boy - You Betta Go Hard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VttIPUhDNAU
KD - Last Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shtGD-72Zsk

Sound like Rich Boy meets Pimp C in those samples, gonna check out that mixtape. While we're in Alabama, GMane has put out some dope tapes as well, Smoke Some Kill, and Still Smokin especially:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WmwPgNGQXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRzawJYaenU

x TOMMYBOY x posted:

This Wayne - She Will ft. Drake has some weak-rear end lines "what goes around comes around like a hula hoop" (wtf wayne) but Drake absolutely murders the hook so I can stand it enough.

Ricky's verse on the remix shits all over Wayne's.

Also I haven't liked a Common or Nas track in forever but man thanks to No-ID this new joint is hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiudw2Rg2v4

GET MONEY fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2011 around 23:58

NeuroticErotica
Sep 9, 2003

Perform sex? Uh uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you...



This is my favorite hip-hop joke twitter account in a while:

http://www.twitter.com/GucciDoinThings

epic funhaver
Jun 8, 2011

by Debbie Metallica


GET MONEY posted:

Ricky's verse on the remix shits all over Wayne's.

I've been on a Rick Ross bent for the past two weeks, dude puts it down on every song.

dethkon
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures


GET MONEY posted:

Sound like Rich Boy meets Pimp C in those samples, gonna check out that mixtape. While we're in Alabama, GMane has put out some dope tapes as well, Smoke Some Kill, and Still Smokin especially:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WmwPgNGQXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRzawJYaenU


Ricky's verse on the remix shits all over Wayne's.

Also I haven't liked a Common or Nas track in forever but man thanks to No-ID this new joint is hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiudw2Rg2v4

Wow, NoID murdered that beat. Did he do the scratches too? Loved it. Also, 2 good verses by Common and one by Nas that didn't put me immediately to sleep? After that Nasty Nas single I'm trying hard not to get hyped for a comeback (must resist...)

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alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Quit hatin' the South


GET MONEY posted:

Also I haven't liked a Common or Nas track in forever but man thanks to No-ID this new joint is hot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiudw2Rg2v4

I think it was at 0:44 I heard tons of white people screaming "noooooo" and throwing away their Be/Finding Forever/Universal Mind Control CD's. Like seriously, he must think nobody's actually gonna listen to this because he essentially is going back on like 6 years of work. Unless he's thinking he's already locked in under the ATCQ "people aren't actually listening to what I'm saying" conscious tag. Either way that was surprisingly good.

Also in case anyone hasn't checked either of them out, new One Be Lo album/mixape is really good (although I think the production's a bit weaker than his last couple of albums, likely due to not as much Decompoze work) and the Kendrick Lamar "Section 80" is probably the best thing I've heard that came out this year.

I also listened to the most recent Serengeti album for anyone who cares about him, and it's yet more proof that "Noodle-Arm Whimsy" was a fluke. There's actually a couple tracks that aren't horrible but some of his rhymes are really awkward and there's not as much humor there to balance it imo.

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