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creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Threatis posted:

Fu-Schnickens ruled this style in the early to mid 90s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XF_aZvcb-c

Fu-Schnickens were basically just a bad Das EFX cover group though, don't even bother with them until you've listened to the whole Das EFX catalogue unless you really want to see Shaq rapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mv2RfGswgs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ce5tzzW_oQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mv2RfGswgs&feature=related

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creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Threatis posted:

i love DAS EFX but fu-schnickens still rule and no one should front about them ever.

Yeah, I take that back, Fu-Schnickens is a good Das EFX cover group. They still don't measure up to the original though.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Jock Mocken posted:

40 Watta is just too good at rapping to release only one album at a time anymore, drat. Don't think there's any beat he couldn't master.

He's being ridiculously prolific right now too, he's released four double-album length albums in less than a calendar year.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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juicy_J posted:

i don't know about that there are few rappers who are more soullessly boring than sage francis

He is technically skilled but boring. White Canibus.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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A Strange Aeon posted:

I'm not super into hip-hop, but I think I'd really like more "punchline rappers". I really dig early Eminem and the aforementioned Celph-Titled, are there other people I should be checking out who basically just compile sick couplets? I've never heard of a punchline rapper before.

Lord Finesse and Big L were probably the two best punchline rappers of all time, and they constantly collaborated too!

L: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MunUxV4sgyU

Finesse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHIgrMdtoSg&feature=related

Both: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aV_vFMCs2E&feature=related

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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the black husserl posted:

Kool KEith

That's like the one -core genre of rap Keith doesn't think he invented.

Also, apparently Keith didn't actually release an album in 2010- maybe he's finally remembered what quality control is/ gone back on his meds? I'm not hoping for a return to Ultramagnetic Keith, but maybe he can have an album where he actually raps instead of just mumbling about space dog piss from alpha centauri.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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John Brown posted:

Being from the south it hurts my heart to admit that I've never heard a Goodie Mob album...this must end so which should I go for?

They only have 3 albums and they never got better than their debut, so just get Soul Food and go from there.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Robert Analog posted:

How was a British rapper's track unironically described as hard?

That guy's track was dumb, but if you don't think the London Posse was hard I don't know that to tell you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahFJmFcY98&feature=related

creamcorn fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 30, 2011

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Ras Het posted:

That record is so sick... Too bad the youtube sounds like arse.

Yeah you're right, I put a better link in.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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HatchetDown posted:

Who are some good producers that put out Instrumental albums aside from Madlib, Dilla, and Nujabes?

Pete Rock's made instrumental albums, Doom has a billion (the special herbs series), DJ Krush makes good stuff, DJ Shadow made the first album entirely out of samples and generally is great.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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HatchetDown posted:

I totally agree with you. I think he's of the mind where fast=good or is still under the 8 Mile spell.

Well then give him some Percee P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RHbeDLPwsg

Or G Rap, you can never go wrong with G Rap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkfdE576LM

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Verbal posted:

Hey guys, kind of an out of left field question, but I've been listening to a bunch of old rap songs and I keep hearing this sample pop up of a woman saying, "Hey!"

Off the top of my head, I know it's in Ghostface's "Mighty Healthy" and Lord Finesse's "True and Livin," but I know I've heard it in other songs. It seems to be one of those common samples you hear used in tons of songs, but I have no idea where it came from. Just wondering if any of you more knowledgeable in hip hop could sate my curiousity and tell me where it's from.

If you don't know where a sample in a golden age or old school song is from, you can probably just assume it's from James Brown. Listen to his discography, it's good music and you get to geek out when you recognize a sample like three times a song.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Tried to pick 5 albums that work really well as coherent albums that don't really have weak points.

Jeru the Damaja- Sun Rises in the East. This album has Preemo's best beats ever, and they are perfectly suited for Jeru's weird offbeat flow. My favorite rap album of all time probably.

Black Moon- Enta Da Stage. Da Beatminerz are one of my favorite production teams, and they knock out classic beat after classic beat on this one. Buckshot kills it too, and 5ft's few appearances are fine.

Main Source- Breaking Atoms. Great atmospheric production, Large Pro is on point, Nas makes his debut. This album is impressive because it's super long but still maintains a high level of quality.(the version I listen to has like 18 tracks, some of the bonus tracks are even better than the album stuff!)

Goodie Mob- Soul Food. Really strong album conceptually, all the emcees are on point, and the production is super funky.

Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet. The Bomb Squad throws out insane wailing beats for an entire album, Chuck D is still dropping science, and Flav says funny stuff and has two good solo songs.

Plenty of other good stuff out there though, this is all early-mid 90s but that's really the era to look at if you want strong albums.

creamcorn fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jun 16, 2011

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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kingcobweb posted:

The rapping on that album is so stilted that I don't think it stands up very well now, honestly.

I think the rapping probably sounded odd then too, Keith has always pretty much just ignored the beat in interesting ways and Ced Gee was never a great rapper (he's pretty decent on the first two Ultramagnetic albums, but then he became incredibly bad). I don't think it really detracts from the album though, it's supposed to be weird space rap from the future and it certainly doesn't sound like any other album from 1988.

Final Fart Buttball posted:

I finally heard Ultramagnetic MC's Critical Beatdown, and I think it's a great album. I'm assuming 90% of you guys have already heard it so I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm just posting it cause if you're one of the small percentage of people who hasn't already heard it you should go listen to it now. I've heard it a couple of times but I don't even remember individual lines because I vibe out to it so hard

Rap music.

Also if you've never heard Critical Beatdown then I'm assuming you've never heard the Cenobites album with Keith and Godfather Don (with special rapping appearances by Bobbito!). Get that album, I love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNZfnLh8T2U&playnext=1&list=PL768AB6D85E7F1741

creamcorn fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jun 25, 2011

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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tyrseil posted:

I don't have very high hopes of ever seeing an actual album from this since DOOM is generally unreliable and inconsistent - Madvillainy 2 has taken forever, there's an alleged album with Masta Ace, this, some thing with Thom Yorke, etc.

Too bad, Swift and Changeable was a good title.

The Doom and Masta Ace one is probably coming out since all Doom is doing is letting Ace use the beats from MM...Food, Ace is the one doing the actual work and he has a work ethic.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Weren't they both in the same click? With camron too?bespeaking of camron has the dipset comeback been fully realized yet? Like a tape or something besides the handful of songs from last year

Nope. Big L and Kam were in the children of the corn, and L and Fat Joe were both part of DITC though.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Yeah so I went to Rock the Bells this weekend and it was really cool, definitely go if you have the chance. Here's my Rap Report on it, the formatting is kinda weird but I couldn't think of a better way to do it:

Black Star didn't show up, which sucked, but I still got to see a bunch of dudes.

Ghostface, Raekwon, and Cappdonna were good, but I don't think Cappadonna needed to be out there- too many really distinct voices at once. Supernatural also came out and did a freestyle with the names of all the songs they did, it was cool. The Genius was great, and Killah Priest was a really good hypeman and he did his song from Liquid Swords too. Masta Killa and Ghost did a freestyle with those guys too. The RZA was wandering around too, and he ended up selling Wu-Tang chess sets for 200 dollars and getting free weed from the crowd.

Black Moon was incredible, they jumped all over the speakers and ran around in front of the crowd. Buckshot is really good at freestyling, which I did not know. I even got to high-five 5ft cause I was in the front and have long-rear end arms, it was pretty sweet. They are also tiny, tiny dudes.

Mobb Deep was really good too, Shook Ones was incredible with 1500 other people yelling the lyrics and Ron Artest wandering around the stage. ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHVt8opG-68[Sound quality is awful, but you can see Ron Ron dancing around and I'm in there somewhere!) They also had Ras Kass, Too Short, and some other guy I couldn't see from my spot show up for a guest spot, which was cool.

KRIT was really cool except for the retarded bros dancing in front of me and my friend for the entire set, those guys were dumb.

Common was probably the biggest surprise for me, I'm not a big fan of his at all but he puts on a really good show and DJ Dummy is sick.

Curren$y broke his foot somehow and Doom flaked out again.

creamcorn fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Aug 23, 2011

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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dethkon posted:

GZA's coming to town to play Liquid Swords start to finish. It's 20 bucks. On one hand, Liquid Swords is one of my favorite rap albums of all time, hands down. On the other hand.... GZA is like 40 something years old. Can he handle a live show? Worth it? Help me decide, goons.

I saw him earlier this year, he wasn't jumping all over the place but he got his poo poo done. It was at RTB though, he might phone it in more at a club. Probably worth $20 even if he phones it in though.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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temple posted:

That's one of the problems I have hiphop now is the pop culture reference poo poo. Naked Lunch and Hunter Thompson? Is that what's popping in the hood? C-walk to The Doors now? I feel like I'm back in the early 90's, with a bunch of pajama hat wearing, condom for glasses people talking about poo poo they clearly don't understand.

Yeah, black people in the hood have literally never heard of anything but g-packs and mac-11s. Glad you're here to keep poo poo real, Temple. *daps*

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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The Doo Do Chasers posted:

I tried really hard to find production that sounded like what the Bomb Squad did on Fear of a Black Planet and AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted and someone pointed me towards Techno Animal. Those two albums have some of the most dissonant and heavy beats out there, I love it. Not as distorted or harsh as Techno Animal, but I get a similar vibe (even though I hate all the rapping on Techno Animal's songs).

Going way back to like 85, there's Mark Stewart, who was in the Pop Group before, put out an album with noisy hip hop beats and political slogans. Its great, but not the same style as Techno Animal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwh9twRWLFY

I'm sure you've probably heard it before, but the Son of Bazerk album produced by the Bomb Squad kinda gets forgotten sometimes and it's really good too. The beats aren't quite as aggressive as the PE/Cube album ones, but they have a funky element to them that I'm a huge fan of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teUV81t3pzc&feature=related

creamcorn fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 1, 2012

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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thunderthief posted:

Wildcard (spokane / pasadena) dropped the video for his title track.

Its p depressing video to be honest but he rips this poo poo imo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODyosRWyHI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Great song, terrible rap hands.

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Wafflecop posted:

New Goodie Mob is kinda lame, too much Cee-Lo. I really only listen to Soul Food these days though and I don't think they're going to make anything like it again, Fight To Win is like World Party plus even more bullshit.

Here's a link for the vid since it's top of the page

It is on The Voice though, so it has to be palatable to moms. Not that that track isn't garbage. Maybe there'll be an OMNI on the album somewhere...

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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Because lists are stupid, and don't facilitate discussion. Also, the first all-time classic song that popped into your head is still dre? Really?

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creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

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The Apollo Brown/ O.C. album is really drat good, I hadn't heard anything about it when it dropped but it's got very solid production with a nice, warm throwback sound; O.C.'s on point too, and it's a rarity now hearing an album that's just a cohesive work from one mc and one producer. It gives the album a lot of thematic and sonic consistency - give it a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0QFi971Cg

http://mellomusicgroup.bandcamp.com/album/trophies

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