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plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Here's mister cee's hot97 mix from today http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UM99I9ZL

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plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Jock Mocken posted:

I take it from the filename that this was in response to this whole situation? anyways definitely gonna listen to this and the Flex one that The Senate posted. And if anyone is interested in some less NY-centric mixes, there's a bunch of Jaycee mixes up here


Yeah, he doesn't speak on the situation or whatever, but it's clearly what the mix is about.

Also not hip hop but here's funkmaster flex playing 80s dance classics. http://djelwood.blogspot.com/2007/11/funk-flex-dance-classics-set-123193.html

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
That elmatic mixtape is sublime.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

chomper posted:

I downloaded it but the one I got is at 128kbps bit rate.... is there any higher quality downloads available? Like at least 256kbps or 320kbps?

Well just imagine it's 1994 and you are bumpin it on cassette.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
That the conventional narrative is simplistic and misleading.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

caveman thug poo poo posted:

thanks for bringing this up, ive been needing something else to watch since i powered through all 7 seasons of scrubs

If you haven't seen the good life documentary it is really worth it.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Jesus christ there's like 15 samples in that song

edan did a mixtape that is entirely hip hop tracks sampled from funky drummer

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
i think nautilus is probably the most cause of all the songs its sampled in just for like effects and stit

apache is also up there and impeach the president and long red etc etc

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

dangerous.hotdog posted:

So I heard this Nas cut on a mix and I'm dying to find out where it's originally from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvzfMgO1_IM&feature=related&t=1m44s

I did a bunch of Googling, but I couldn't find poo poo. :(


Edit- VVV Yea, that's what I was thinking after I couldn't find anything, but just wanted to see if I missed something. I'm loving the instrumental too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqBMgayD6D4

That break was originally sampled on diamond d - stunts blunts and hip hop aka the best rap album, so I advise you sample that as well.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Leathal posted:

SB&HH is probably my favorite DITC camp album. :hf:

What happened to Diamond D? Most recent poo poo I heard from him was on Soundbombing 2. Wikipedia lists a couple records from 03-05 that I've never even heard of; they any good?

They aren't very good. Some of the stuff he produced for ditc's collab albums and assorted 12"s are alright though.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I like nas new single http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/nas-delivers-his-first-street-single-nasty-off-his-life-is-good-lp/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I wasn't so much a fan of the rebirth, although I enjoyed most of his earlier output. How does his new one compare?

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Svartvit posted:

Tech may sometimes be pretty far out in his lyrics, but I am confused by the way some people dismiss his music because of it - as if the game in general exhibits high-brow lyrical depth - and then go on recommending Rick Ross as if his rhymes would pass the intellectual bar or something. Not pointing fingers at anyone in here, but that's the classical response everytime he drops something and I just find it very weird.

Well, the advantage that the game and rick ross have over immortal technique is that they have had the opportunity to work with top quality producers. I would have more time for immortal technique if I enjoyed the beats he chose more.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Out of curiosity temple, where are you from? I think the subjective experiences we have had from different regions colors our perceptions of what is popular. I live in New York and I would say that hearing a 2pac song in an old school set is maybe as common as like an epmd song or something. Maybe even a bit less likely.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Who Gotch Ya posted:

I'm in NYC and I don't know anybody who only listens to people from their hometown or even gives half a poo poo about where somebody is from as long as they can rap.

I have to respectfully disagree, although the situation is more complex than temple argues. Definitely in clubs people respond to stuff from their home borough being played and if you listen to the radio they definitely bring up geography a lot. Further, if you recall, big krit and waka flacka got jeered when they first performed in New York, although I would argue a lot of that had to do with poor marketing and expectations management. I.E. it was dumb to put big krit on the bill for a joell ortiz show and waka flaka with raekwon, as those sort of rappers definitely do bring out a reactionary crowd. But yeah, the average person doesn't really care about that stuff so much.

However, what I was getting to in my first point is that there is a tremendous variance in the many hip hop discourses in the US and around the world that does not take well to generalizations. 2pac is extremely important for some of these and marginal for others.

I would like to know, though, as an open question to everyone in this thread: How often is 2pac played on the radio/in clubs/in your hip hop scene/your social circle nowadays where you live?

plogo fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Oct 31, 2011

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

RBX posted:

Tupac is still played everyday, in clubs and radios. The man is legendary. People can recite all his songs word for word still.



Where are you from?

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Who Gotch Ya posted:



I'd guess Waka got booed 'cause yeah, he's not the same type of act as Raekwon. I don't know about krit getting booed but maybe he's just different enough from Ortiz that a crowd there for Ortiz wasn't feeling him even though he's dope.

I'd bet that if he opened for Big Boi in NY or something people would love it.

I got confused I think it was oj da juiceman which makes a lot more sense. But yeah, it was more a matter of having a weird lineup, than an intrinsic close mindedness of new yorkers (although that does exist to some extent.)

plogo fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 31, 2011

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Herb McGruff and the Boogiemonsters? I didn't know you had that in you Chopper City.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Ras Het posted:

es este el thread de reggaeton

I do kinda wish there were a thread on reggaeton. I know next to nothing about it despite its general popularity in my area.


I love this tune though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLOYfS6XN6I

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

juicy_J posted:

Love that harry fraud brought back this beat:
http://youtu.be/J3zpI5aYx-k
for
http://youtu.be/PT-mYk2Q0RY

It's a teddy pendergrass sample, lots of songs have sampled it. http://www.whosampled.com/search/samples/?q=come%20go%20with%20me

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Well, since we are on cam, this dipset retrospective mix came out: http://highsnobiety.com/columns/frankthebutcher/2011/12/19/frank-the-butcher-dj-7l-present-the-essential-dipset-mix/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I think you would enjoy a lot of mixtapes, like the early ones from green latern, the early bad boy mixtapes with doo wop, s&s, and stretch armstrong and stretch and who kid's murda mixtape series.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
DJ PNS from the molemen had a nice mix tape series "Chicago Rocks" from the late 90s that showcased various chicago talent.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I guess it was two years ago, but speaking in tungs was pretty big here.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Waroduce posted:

Hello, rap goons. I am writing a paper about the concept of freedom as discussed by Marcuse, Camus and Sartre. The class is taught by a PH.D candidate who's relatively young (around 26-28) who is a big rap fan. He likes Talib Kwali, Mos Def, and prefers Tupac to Biggie. I asked him to help me with a paper and we ended up discussing older rap, as I'm a pretty big fan of Rakim, Treach, The Roots, NWA and Biggie. Anyway, I've successfully worked in relevant quotes from Tupac and Common, but I'd like one more. I want to lead the paper off with a nice quote about freedom from another rapper, but nothing is coming to mind at the moment. Would anyone have a suggestion by any chance?

You should pick something from the x-clan.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

temple posted:

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/we-spoke-to-combat-jack-about-his-wifes-spin-class-and-transparency-in-hip-hop

Combat Jack sold out too quick. Talks about how "nerdy white guys" are the objective reporters in hiphop.

I mean noz is unquestionably the best hip hop reporter.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I have good memories of when this came out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCEQf0SL0U Jadakiss ft. Styles P - We Gonna Make It

This was quite big where I was, I guess I always assumed nationally it got some play as well, but I dunno.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Excuse My French is going to be the best album of the first half of the year handily. It's a shame there's no max b verse tho, he's just on the intro talking.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Profondo Rosso posted:

I am dumbstruck as to how French Montana of all people is so popular. This doesn't do much to help explain it

He went the time honored route of releasing a ton of underground mixtapes with other underground superstars in the bronx to gain cred amongst rap fans, then made underground club hits which became mainstream club hits after hot 97 and power 105 couldn't ignore their popularity, then hooked up with puffy to make an album.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

temple posted:

French has a lot of connections. He's been around the block and he got on a song with Drake, Wayne and Ross. That's not some underground luck. He was down for 50 too. 50 made a good point about how Drake was never an underground 'mixtape' artist because you don't get played on the radio unless someone is paying or connected. I'm starting to believe a lot of underground -> mainstream acts are like that.

It's not underground luck I never said it was, but he was selling mixtapes with Nicki Minaj and stuff in the Bronx and and that is where his early connections developed. I mean obviously at some point he hooked up with good management, I don't know the details exactly, but he released a shitload of mixtapes before he broke through and was a cult figure for a long time.

50 is correct in that most radio play is hardly a meritocracy, but there are many other routes to radio play as well. In the case of French Montana it was through force of popularity in clubs that "Shot Caller" got play on the radio. For another example a song that became popular through club djs playing it a lot in NY see the Ted Smooth remix of beyonce's Love on Top, which I doubt anyone outside of New York cares about, but was sorta a similar case. E.G. widely respected hip hop figure amongst the heads in New York releases a tune that gets played a ton amongst dj's then gets play on the radio.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I guess the step I missed is the whole hood dvd thing, but I didn't realize that was an important thing in the rap world until they lost relevance, and the only contemporary ones I watched were from philly anyways.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

asap-salafi posted:

I don't think you understood what I was trying to say. Firstly, I enjoy listening to both Chief Keef and French Montana. I actually loved Keef's album and thought it was ingenious. However, you have to admit that from a musical point of view, it's not good, he's talentless and gimmicky. The music was created in the same way pop music is created, by using a tried and tested formula. In about 10 years time, you're (probably) gonna be looking at these guys the same way we look at crunk or hyphy artists. They're fads and will make way for other (and probably also talentless) individuals.

I'm not saying that enjoying the music is a bad thing but I totally understand why a lot of people don't like that kinda poo poo because I don't really like some of these guys (specifically, Riff Raff and Future). Explaining why you like them is a lot more difficult than criticizing them.

I mean it's not like people are gonna care about Freddie Gibbs or Action Bronson or whatever in 10 years, just like no one cares about Problemz or Natural Elements or whatever nowadays. It has nothing to do with the quality of the music, it is how the music is remembered in various forms of media (blogs or magazines or complex lists or clubs or whatever.) Like nowadays there's a lot interest in old memphis mixtapes which was a thing on blogs and forums and people in memphis for a long time, but now extends to techno dudes of all people because legowelt made some mixes of memphis rap. The music isn't any better or worse pre/post legowelt mix, but there is now a new authority of "look at this under appreciated artistic music" that spurs a new interest in the music and causes some people to view it as more artistic when they wouldn't have necessarily felt that way before. (Obviously there's more than just the legowelt mix to the way that perceptions of mephis mix tapes have changed, but simplifying the narrative to that makes my point more obvious.)

Also I'm never gonna forget about hyphy cause this is one of my favorite mixtapes ever https://soundcloud.com/djbigmikeyair/super-disco-hyphy-mix-b-cause .

plogo fucked around with this message at 04:06 on May 21, 2013

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Profondo Rosso posted:

Beyond being talentless, I just find him incredibly obnoxious.



I mean I feel that way about all of Odd Future so whatever. Sometimes our personal taste just doesn't sync up with the rest of the world for whatever reason.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
There are songs and features Kool G Rap has that are alright like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luPLS2rQqBA post 4,5,6 but it's not really worth the effort digging through all the lesser stuff in my opinion. I guess half a klip is alright.

It's also worth tracking down the remixes on his older stuff if you haven't done that. Have you heard the remixes to fast life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTiwlYvbXkk (my fav from salaam remi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqfP2MoKYz4 (vinyl reanimators!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqBOgsPtyA (buckwild)

plogo fucked around with this message at 04:55 on May 21, 2013

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
Dunno I'm not really sold on it, I prefer the original use of those verses over the diddy beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y8R5vDgFug

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Kid Gloves posted:

Twista though

MC Freshco though

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
I think I would like 7 days of funk a lot more if dam funk just sampled rare boogie tracks from his collection.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009

Alvarez IV posted:

You know how there's an unofficial canon of music deemed capital-i Important by the people who dictate modern taste (e.g. anyone who writes for Rolling Stone or similar publications)? You know how it's 99% ancient poo poo because these people are senior citizens, yet there are still tons of young people who will listen to Sgt Pepper's or The Wall for fun? I'm curious, what's the oldest hip-hop "classic" that people these days will still listen to for fun and not just historical significance?

My money's on 36 Chambers. I guess you can also listen to The Chronic for fun, but anything past that point, even the stuff I like, it's not the kind of stuff you put on for friends, more just the stuff you maybe listen to once because it's a Great Album of Historical Significance and you feel like you should be able to qualify that with experience. Then again, maybe I'm wrong and there are people spinning Run-DMC and Afrika Bambaataa in 2013. Prove me wrong please?

I dunno, I think there are a ton of great rap albums that are fun to listen to going back to around the Paid In Full era. But I also think you question is a little loaded in that I don't really play albums in full for my friends in general. I mean the only thing I would conceivably play in full for my friends from the past 10 years is Coke Wave, and that's a once in a generation work of rap (and it's a mixtape.) I think also your experience might be colored by the mediums by which you are exposed to other rap consumers. If you go to a bar or whatever (at least in New York) djs often open up with a lot of late 80s/early 90s rnb, and rap party classics before moving to their top 40 power hour type stuff, and I'm pretty sure the people in those venues are listening to the music for fun rather than historical significance when they play "beats to the rhyme" or something.

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plogo
Jan 20, 2009
If you want a nice retrospective of rap, I would recommend the rub's history of hip hop series: http://www.itstherub.com/category/history-of-hip-hop/

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