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ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007


I haven't seen this posted here yet, apologizes if it has been.

Customers in Kansas and Oklahoma will lose Sprint on-network coverage, apparently

People on Sprint's forums are calling up Sprint and are being told it only affects Nextel or something like that.

Can anyone clear this up?

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Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011


I don't know much about it other than Sprint cutting costs. I know AT&T is pissed since you'll be roaming on their network now, and they can't refuse you. At least for now.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto.


Aren't those two of the areas where they're shutting down iDEN? I think that's what's going on.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010


Sperg Victorious posted:

I know AT&T is pissed since you'll be roaming on their network now
Do you mean Verizon? AT&T is GSM, Sprint is CDMA.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


falz posted:

Do you mean Verizon? AT&T is GSM, Sprint is CDMA.

He means Verizon. From news sources, basically sprint turned off towers in those areas, and are relying on Verizon.

The Entire Universe
Jun 2, 2005

Fantastic.


Duckman2008 posted:

He means Verizon. From news sources, basically sprint turned off towers in those areas, and are relying on Verizon.

drat, that's a pretty big area, though from the looks of it it's avoiding the Wichita and OKC metro areas. All the folks out between the panhandle and Enid or so are SOL.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


The Entire Universe posted:

drat, that's a pretty big area, though from the looks of it it's avoiding the Wichita and OKC metro areas. All the folks out between the panhandle and Enid or so are SOL.

Yeah, for people in that area it absolutely sucks, and honestly hopefully they vote with their wallet and switch.

Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011


No, I mean AT&T.

quote:

If its customers are using more data, don’t you think it would be logical for Sprint to actually use its cash to build more capacity? I mean, at AT&T we have spent a lot of time and money investing in recent years racing to keep up with our subscribers’ surging broadband demands precisely because those demands are growing so rapidly. Verizon has been doing the same in building its own 4G LTE network. But at Sprint, the logic is different, and investment – Sprint investment – does not appear to be the solution. My guess is that Kansas and Oklahoma represent the tip of tip of the iceberg here. Does this represent the beginning of Sprint’s Disappearing Network Vision? Will this disinvestment story go nationwide and appear in your local paper soon?

http://attpublicpolicy.com/wireless...tdisinvestment/

Sperg Victorious fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2012 around 05:39

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Sperg Victorious posted:

No, I mean AT&T.



Sprint can't roam on AT&T, they are incompatible technologies.

Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011


bull3964 posted:

Sprint can't roam on AT&T, they are incompatible technologies.

Well either way, AT&T is the carrier that's pissed about Sprint dumping its network and relying on roaming agreements.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Sperg Victorious posted:

Well either way, AT&T is the carrier that's pissed about Sprint dumping its network and relying on roaming agreements.

I wouldn't say pissed so much as taking every opportunity to slag a competitor in press releases.

This move by Sprint doesn't nothing but HELP AT&T since they are a likely beneficiary of people jumping ship.

They are still butt-hurt over the T-Mobile deal, so they are going spin every instance of government regulation as hurting the customer.

The Entire Universe
Jun 2, 2005

Fantastic.


Duckman2008 posted:

Yeah, for people in that area it absolutely sucks, and honestly hopefully they vote with their wallet and switch.

To be honest I think you're going to see a lot of people switching, but then again we're talking small-town and rural Oklahoma here. A lot of people may just put up with it because switching carriers is a bit of a bitch, especially with a family plan. Outlay for new phones, etc. All that can be mitigated by getting, well, shitphones, but the point stands - switching carriers is a hassle, the only reason I seriously consider it from time to time is that I'm just a hypochondriac (Samsung notwithstanding) about stupid poo poo like update schedules and having the nexus phones first.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


Sperg Victorious posted:

Well either way, AT&T is the carrier that's pissed about Sprint dumping its network and relying on roaming agreements.

ATT is still pissed that sprint took such a big stance against the merger. And I agree here that in this specific instance dropping towers is retarded, but overall I would say sprint has done a better job of building out towers over the last few years than ATT (they just built them all at 2500,which didn't exactly work well. Sprint also owns 4 times the spectrum that ATT has, so sprints capacity is way more than ATT (in theory should be emphasized here).

The Entire Universe posted:

To be honest I think you're going to see a lot of people switching, but then again we're talking small-town and rural Oklahoma here. A lot of people may just put up with it because switching carriers is a bit of a bitch, especially with a family plan. Outlay for new phones, etc. All that can be mitigated by getting, well, shitphones, but the point stands - switching carriers is a hassle, the only reason I seriously consider it from time to time is that I'm just a hypochondriac (Samsung notwithstanding) about stupid poo poo like update schedules and having the nexus phones first.

I would imagine sprint decided the customers in that area were not worth maintaining towers for.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto.


ThermoPhysical posted:


People on Sprint's forums are calling up Sprint and are being told it only affects Nextel or something like that.


Do we really know if this is true or not? If it really only does affect Nextel customers, it it really that big a deal?

lazydog
Apr 15, 2003


According to this, Sprint is losing is a partnership with Pioneer Cellular. Apparently, it was a special roaming agreement that did not show as roaming on your phone or bill. Seems Pioneer is dropping Sprint and partnering with Verizon.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...Kansas-Oklahoma

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

My anime is augmented.


change my name posted:

Went to get my phone replaced after having broken the screen way back in november (remember that?) and the guy said that since the 3d is backordered he could get me an SII for free instead

Nevermind, apparently it became un-backordered!

GigaPeon
Apr 29, 2003

Go, man, go!

What's HTC/Sprint's bad pixel policy?

I had the phantom touch issue on my Evo 3D, so I got the screen replaced at the repair shop. They did it for free, even though I don't have insurance.

A couple days later, I see a bright dead pixel, normally only noticeable in dark screens, but enough to distract when watching videos. I don't want to make a fuss since they fixed the phone for free, but was wondering if anyone knows what options I have.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007


Rumors of Verizon buying Sprint...what?

Is this even possible? It states that T-Mobile could be bought up by Sprint who could be bought up by Verizon.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back


ThermoPhysical posted:

Rumors of Verizon buying Sprint...what?

Is this even possible? It states that T-Mobile could be bought up by Sprint who could be bought up by Verizon.

Maybe I am missing something but where does it say there is a rumor that Verizon may buy Sprint? I read the article and outside of the fish picture I see nothing.

Plus how could it even happen with the anti trust laws. They wouldn't let AT&T do it, but they would let Verizon do it in a even bigger way?

nate fisher fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2012 around 19:54

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007


nate fisher posted:

Maybe I am missing something but where does it say there is a rumor that Verizon may buy Sprint? I read the article and outside of the fish picture I see nothing.

Plus how could it even happen with the anti trust laws. They wouldn't let AT&T do it, but they would let Verizon do it in a even bigger way?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03v/23/te...rizon/index.htm

Linked to the wrong article, sorry.

I don't know how it could happen either.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back


ThermoPhysical posted:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03v/23/te...rizon/index.htm

Linked to the wrong article, sorry.

I don't know how it could happen either.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/23/tec...dex.htm?iid=EAL

Is this the article you are talking about? That is from March 23rd 2011, and talks about if the AT&T and T-Mobile merge is approved what will happen to Sprint.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007


nate fisher posted:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/23/tec...dex.htm?iid=EAL

Is this the article you are talking about? That is from March 23rd 2011, and talks about if the AT&T and T-Mobile merge is approved what will happen to Sprint.

Yeah, I thought that's what posted. Though with my crappy mouse, I don't know what it decided to post there..

moolchaba
Jul 21, 2007
We need wal-mart in the middle east

ThermoPhysical posted:

Yeah, I thought that's what posted. Though with my crappy mouse, I don't know what it decided to post there..

Yeah. But the article is a year old.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


GigaPeon posted:

What's HTC/Sprint's bad pixel policy?

I had the phantom touch issue on my Evo 3D, so I got the screen replaced at the repair shop. They did it for free, even though I don't have insurance.

A couple days later, I see a bright dead pixel, normally only noticeable in dark screens, but enough to distract when watching videos. I don't want to make a fuss since they fixed the phone for free, but was wondering if anyone knows what options I have.

They won't want to do it, but if you have insurance and bring it back, they might swap out the screen again. Dead pixels are a hard call, as sprint tray doesn't like swapping because of that issue (formally) but it's one of those extremely minor things that drive people crazy. Just be really nice, as the store only gets paid on the initial repair, and they hopefully should fix that.


And on Verizon buying sprint who knows. Sprint has a ton of assets but hasn't been profitable in years, so it's viable. The industry seems stuck between wanting enough competition but yet not being able to sustain 4 major carriers. There are rumors ATT may buy cricket (leap wireless) which would I would see as more likely. Any larger buyouts this soon after the ATT tmobile fiasco would likely get big public opposition.

Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2012 around 20:45

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back


Duckman2008 posted:

And on Verizon buying sprint who knows. Sprint has a ton of assets but hasn't been profitable in years, so it's viable. The industry seems stuck between wanting enough competition but yet not being able to sustain 4 major carriers. There are rumors ATT may buy cricket (leap wireless) which would I would see as more likely. Any larger buyouts this soon after the ATT tmobile fiasco would likely get big public opposition.

If Sprint did merge with T-Mobile what would the advantage be for Sprint? I am a little confused on the advantages since one is CDMA and the other GSM. Would they keep both or make everyone go CDMA sooner or later?

My hope for Sprint is either Google or Amazon buys them.

Lovie Unsmith
Mar 19, 2005



nate fisher posted:

If Sprint did merge with T-Mobile what would the advantage be for Sprint? I am a little confused on the advantages since one is CDMA and the other GSM. Would they keep both or make everyone go CDMA sooner or later?

Spectrum. Though it could take a while to take advantage of it.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


Lovie Unsmith posted:

Spectrum. Though it could take a while to take advantage of it.

Exactly. Spectrum for T-Mobile (they could simply share LTE, extra revenue for sprint.


Edit: turn quit, back haul is a good question that I can't answer.

Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2012 around 23:29

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.



I heard that Sprint is flush we spectrum, but they are in a lovely way with backhaul and actually being able to feed that spectrum. Confirm/Deny?

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Turnquiet posted:

I heard that Sprint is flush we spectrum, but they are in a lovely way with backhaul and actually being able to feed that spectrum. Confirm/Deny?

Sprint isn't "flush" with spectrum, but they do have a big problem with backhaul on their 3G sites. WiMAX was done with Clear so they didn't have backhaul issues there.

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

Sprint buyout rumors pop up every few months, it seems. I know I've seen "Verizon to buy Sprint", or "Sprint to buy T-Mobile". I want to start a rumor that Sprint is in talks to purchase AT&T.

Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755


Sprint in talks to buy a hot dog, coke, and potato chips at a gas station.

brc64
Mar 21, 2008

I wear my sunglasses at night.

Matlock posted:

Sprint in talks to buy a hot dog, coke, and potato chips at a gas station.
poo poo, there goes my company discount. Gotta pay for the munchies somehow.

fuzzi
Oct 14, 2002


I have been having an issue for probably two years where I will go anywhere from 3 days to over a week with about 50-70% of my text messages never being received on the other end. This process seems to happen about once ever 1-2 months. I originally had this problem with my original Evo. I wiped it, installed ROMs, updated PRL and profile and all kinds of stuff until I finally got an Evo3d. The problem persisted and I went through all the normal steps of flashing ROM versions and PRLs and radios and wiped it and even had it replaced once. For the last 5 days... I get no texts from one person and they get maybe half of mine, and at least 5 other people aren't getting a good bit of my texts.

They have finally set up what they call a "network ticket" to look at things on the back end but I'm seriously fed up at this point. They are supposed to call me back tomorrow and let me know their findings but after two years of paying for unlimited texts and never getting any type of credit I am seriously considering other options. When I mentioned them waiving the early termination fee they weren't very receptive and said they would talk about it after the network ticket was completed. Anyone have any experience in getting the ETF waived?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


fuzzi posted:

I have been having an issue for probably two years where I will go anywhere from 3 days to over a week with about 50-70% of my text messages never being received on the other end. This process seems to happen about once ever 1-2 months. I originally had this problem with my original Evo. I wiped it, installed ROMs, updated PRL and profile and all kinds of stuff until I finally got an Evo3d. The problem persisted and I went through all the normal steps of flashing ROM versions and PRLs and radios and wiped it and even had it replaced once. For the last 5 days... I get no texts from one person and they get maybe half of mine, and at least 5 other people aren't getting a good bit of my texts.

They have finally set up what they call a "network ticket" to look at things on the back end but I'm seriously fed up at this point. They are supposed to call me back tomorrow and let me know their findings but after two years of paying for unlimited texts and never getting any type of credit I am seriously considering other options. When I mentioned them waiving the early termination fee they weren't very receptive and said they would talk about it after the network ticket was completed. Anyone have any experience in getting the ETF waived?

Eh. Its at their discretion unfortunately. Call retentions and talk to them about getting a credit.

fuzzi
Oct 14, 2002


Duckman2008 posted:

Eh. Its at their discretion unfortunately. Call retentions and talk to them about getting a credit.

That's kind of what I figured really. I have been nice but stern, so hopefully that gets me somewhere. I'm not looking forward to changing phone companies though.. I'm pretty familiar with Sprint's phone offerings and service here.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Macrossnalds, I'm lovin' it.

fuzzi posted:

I have been having an issue for probably two years where I will go anywhere from 3 days to over a week with about 50-70% of my text messages never being received on the other end. This process seems to happen about once ever 1-2 months. I originally had this problem with my original Evo. I wiped it, installed ROMs, updated PRL and profile and all kinds of stuff until I finally got an Evo3d. The problem persisted and I went through all the normal steps of flashing ROM versions and PRLs and radios and wiped it and even had it replaced once. For the last 5 days... I get no texts from one person and they get maybe half of mine, and at least 5 other people aren't getting a good bit of my texts.

They have finally set up what they call a "network ticket" to look at things on the back end but I'm seriously fed up at this point. They are supposed to call me back tomorrow and let me know their findings but after two years of paying for unlimited texts and never getting any type of credit I am seriously considering other options. When I mentioned them waiving the early termination fee they weren't very receptive and said they would talk about it after the network ticket was completed. Anyone have any experience in getting the ETF waived?

This happens to me in my own house, WITH an airrave, when my wife and I are both home. Well not as bad, but we'll randomly not get texts at all or we'll get half of it which seems nonsensical. We have different phones too.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


OldPueblo posted:

This happens to me in my own house, WITH an airrave, when my wife and I are both home. Well not as bad, but we'll randomly not get texts at all or we'll get half of it which seems nonsensical. We have different phones too.

The airrave has a known issue with text messages, sometimes it's just weird about passing them along.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Macrossnalds, I'm lovin' it.

Duckman2008 posted:

The airrave has a known issue with text messages, sometimes it's just weird about passing them along.

Welp now that I know that I might as well just unplug it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Mr. Ali
Oct 2, 2003
gay man

I received an Airrave last year and as soon as I had the strange text message issues I turned it off. I would rather have spotty coverage and dropped calls then have text massages that go nowhere.

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FlyingCheese
Jan 17, 2007
OH THANK GOD!

I never thought I'd be happy to see yet another lubed up man-ass.


I'm on an EPRP family plan and I tried to get a free airrave by telling them I get bad reception in my house (it drains batteries like crazy) and I'm well within range in a large city. They said I couldn't get one myself, the employee I signed on to the EPRP plan with needs to order the airrave for me. Should I call retentions? Keep trying?

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