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nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Wow that is pretty interesting. I am pretty sure that the new iPhone will have LTE and hearing this pulls me back closer to Sprint.

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nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Jensen posted:

For others losing the Sprint discount: I've done some searching around and it appears in a year or so I'm going to switch to straight talk. You just buy a Nexus phone from the play store outright, put a GSM sim in it from straight talk, and pay $45 a month for unlimited calling/texts and 2GB's of data a month.

Sounds good for someone with a single line, but if you have 5 lines not so much.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

Besides having to pay lines separately maybe maybe not. A sprint family plan comes out about $50-60 per line with a discount last I checked. So price wise it is pretty on par.

That is about right. I was talking about buying 5 Neuxs phones outright plus only 2GB of data. So it would be cheaper to stay with Sprint in the end.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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thisdude23 posted:

Which credit unions get a 25% discount? Is it for members or workers there?

Wow if members I am joining up.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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brc64 posted:

That's an interesting question. What DOES Sprint do if they can you for too much roaming but you're still under contract? Does that force you to pay out your ETF or does it just terminate everything? Because that'd be an interesting way to get out of contract...

When I got the famous "too much data roaming" letter I did some research on it, because when I called Sprint no one had any idea what I was talking about. Heck I couldn't get anyone to acknowledge the letter.

That said according what I found using Google, they just cut you off (without warning and no ETF) if you keep data roaming after the letter. That said it takes several months of data roaming to get the letter (they are looking for a pattern). Then after the letter you still have to data roam some more. So while interesting it is not a fast or easy way to get out of your contract.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Quidnose posted:

Considering switching back to Sprint from Verizon for savings. What's the data and signal like in Silicon Valley of the Bay Area, if anyone can tell me? I'm assuming anything is going to be better than my current broken Galaxy Nexus that cycles service constantly on Verizon, but who knows.

Also, I'm out of contract on Verizon so I could switch freely if I chose to. Anyone mind giving me a quick rundown of what I want to look at / what phone to get?

If you are not in a hurry I would wait until the LTE overhauls are done in your area. Right now Sprint is sucking data wise. If wasn't for the overhaul I would be switching to Verizon.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Skeezy posted:

The Nexus hasn't shown up yet After a long boring day at work I had my hopes up and everything.

Oh well, there's always tomorrow.

I hate waiting for something coming in the mail, but I love when it gets here. It is like Christmas. I think that reaction is why I'm addicted to Amazon.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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I went to see Mumford & Sons yesterday at a Gentleman of the Road stop in Bristol, TN/VA, and I swear to god everyone had 3G but Sprint users. I couldn't get anything to work at all, and I was in completely covered area. Might of been my lowest moment as a Sprint user as everyone else around me used their data all day (it was 8 hour show).

Just to be clear neither could my wife (who has 3D), and a friend I ran into there who had a OG EVO. Of course his EVO died after about 2 hours into the show. I was like dude I been there.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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brc64 posted:

I went to a concert in Dallas last night, but I had a slightly different problem. I know that the zoom on these cameras isn't optical and not to expect great things from it, but the result I got from my Evo 3D was downright horrible. Blurry and unable to compensate for the bright lights on the stage. However, my wife's Galaxy Nexus took pretty damned amazing zoomed in photos! You could actually see the individuals on the stage, and not just big bright blobs.

I was impressed! And saddened.

The lower apertures really help in low light situations. The iPhone 4S is at 2.4, the EVO LTE is at 2.6, and the SG3 is all the way down to 2.0 (not sure what the Galaxy Nexus is but I am sure it is low). Also distance is important in low light. I took some jaw dropping photos with my 4S at a Radiohead show earlier this year, but last night due to how far I was away (it was a outdoor festival) stage shots were so-so. My wife has a 3D so she feels your pain. Useless in low light.


Duckman2008 posted:

Sprint service is noticeably bad in Bristol. I stopped by there a lot over the last two years, and it always sucked.

That being said, yeah, I hear ya.

First time I been to Bristol in like 10 years. I was kind of surprised, but nice to know if you have Sprint don't move there.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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The Epic 4G Touch is Sprint's version of the SG2 correct? If so do not take the EVO OG as a replacement.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

Most people buy an iphone either way. I hope to God Sprint gets the 5 (in theory they should).

If Sprint didn't get the new iPhone I would at least switch my line to Verizon. That said I am pretty sure not an issue. Just get ready for the ads that are going to tout the only company with unlimited 4G for the iPhone. Only issue is you got to find the 4G first.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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CombatCupcake posted:

Pretty close to ordering the EVO LTE. Is anyone holding out to see the iphone 5? I don't really want an iphone but just curious if it might be loads better than the 4s.

I have a 4S, but I am getting a couple of new iPhones (5 or whatever they are called) next month. Honestly I really don't think the new iPhone will be loads better than the 4s, but it will be better. A lot of the rumors point to the following:

- a 4 inch screen (it will be taller but not wider or thicker)
- better camera (dropping down to f2.2 is the rumor)
- LTE
- bigger battery because of LTE
- Siri improvements
- fast processor
- whatever else iOS 6.0 brings new

I'm no expert but Apple is not about blowing people out of the water with specs. It is about making the software to get the most out of the hardware they have. Many things on Android are better spec wise (cameras for example), but still the iPhone does it better in most cases.

So I guess my point is if the reason you didn't get a 4S is because you wanted a bigger screen good chance the new iPhone will entice you. I switched from Android to the 4S and it took me a month to get use to it. Now like Ender I have an Apple TV and iPad, and I'm invested in the Apple eco-system. This was suppose to be a one year experiment for me with Apple, and the fact I am using my 2 available upgrades to buy the new iPhone should tell you how it went.

Also I JB my iPhone after using it for 7 months. JB was simple as running a file on your computer and plugging your iPhone in. Gave me back some of the things I was missing from Android (customization mainly).

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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I have been out of the Android loop, but is the GNex really that bad on Sprint? I don't plan on getting one, I'm just curious. You can't mess up a Nexus, can you?

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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bobula posted:

It makes me want to get a dumb iPhone, but then I think of losing Android and I get too sad to ponder it any longer. I just want something not obnoxiously huge, sigh. It's very difficult to type with one hand on my OG EVO as it is.

I agree with you. I have big hands but I still prefer phone around 4 inches. I still think the form factor of the Nexus 4S was the best for Android.

Fingers crossed the rumor of a 3.99 iPhone is true.

Giblet posted:

The iphone's specs aren't as high. Since they control the major aspects of the phone they can optimize them better which means they don't require as fast hardware.

Yes with Apple it is never about hardware specs, but having software that gets the most out of it.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Sprint not getting the iPhone 5 would be the biggest shock on the 12th. I'm getting 2 and I would walk if they didn't. Still I have very little doubt on 9/22 I will be picking up 2 of them for Sprint.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Lynchman posted:

Look's like the 15th...of October.

Link

I might be wrong but Apple has never waited that long from announcement to launch of a device. The launch within a week or two.

After reading that flyer it doesn't say at all that the iPhone will be released on 10/15. What the flyer is saying that Sprint will finally offer some form of Apple Support after 10/15. The iPhone is already in store so that date means nothing.

I would still put my money on 9/2*.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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I am planning to pre-order 2 iPhones 5 this week. Does Sprint charge you the full amount upfront on your credit card or once you pick your phones up?

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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d[-.-]b posted:

Don't you feel like it's a waste to get two shiny, new iPhone 5s, but getting them for Sprint?

I have 5 lines on Sprint (been a customer for almost 13 years) and I guess I'm going nowhere. I have thought about it, but thank God I will be on WiFi most of the time.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Mister Fister posted:

List of LTE cities to light up in the next few months:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...e-coming-months

Wow every small city around Knoxville is listed but not Knoxville. Urg!

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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My subdivision has been without cell service since 7pm last night. Data works slower than normal, and when you try to call it just beeps. Texts messages work kind of too, but they take forever to send. Since I have no landline I waited to call Sprint on my way to work this morning. I got it to work a mile down the road, and the rep told me they will contact one of their engineers. I did speak with a neighbor who has Sprint too. She also called last night and this morning, about the outage. According to her Sprint did a update to the tower and starting around 7pm it started rejecting calls. She said Sprint is now showing that the tower is rejecting 93% of the calls (is it possible for them to tell that?). Best part she said Sprint told her it could be 3 to 4 days before it is fixed.

I am not too pissed because after having Sprint for over 10 years this is my first true service outage. That said I might be pretty pissed if I am still waiting to have it fixed in 3 days from now.

Edit: To be clear our phones show full bars. It just beeps when you try to call.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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bobula posted:

So, Sprint iPhone preorders open on Friday too, right?

Yes 3am EST tonight. I am going to preorder mine from Apple.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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BusinessWallet posted:

If you guys are preordering the phone and you already have a Sprint account, how is it billing you? Does it charge you right then, or does it add the charge to your bill?

Sprint does not do that anymore (no one does). You pay yourself. That said I process 2 phone orders using Apple at 0420 est and they still haven't hit my credit card. I was told by Goons in the Apple thread it would tonight.

That said you could do the Best Buy pre-order when it starts. It is only $50 to pre-order.

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nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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LorneReams posted:

Why wife is going from my old mogul to an Iphone5...she might actually be impressed at the upgrade.

Jesus Christ since my Mogul I have had a Touch Pro, Blackberry Curve, Hero, EVO, iPhone 4S, and I just ordered the iPhone 5 for myself. Tell her to live a little.


Going from the Mogul to the iPhone 5 is like going from walking to riding in a Ferrari.

Auron posted:

This.

The 4S is getting iOS6, so the only thing you will be missing is LTE and a little bigger screen. Sure the processor is probably faster, but the 4S is pretty drat speedy itself.

LTE is nice and all, to a point. Pretty much everywhere I go has wifi access anyways. The nice thing about LTE on Sprint compared to Verizon (which I'm on) is that it is unlimited.

There are some slight improvements on the 5, but overall it is not a must upgrade from the 4S. That said I love the look of the 5 (I hope it looks just as good as in person), and with 2 of my 5 upgrades just siting there I jumped on 2 5's. I just can't help myself. I already know I will end up with a 5S (?) next year too. Books and gadgets. My 2 addictions.,

nate fisher fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2012 around 17:01

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

FYI the iPhone 5 64GB is listed as 0 in sprints shipment inventory, which means it may get allocation soon. The 16 and 32 are not looking as good.

I ordered a 16 and 32 from Apple at 4:20 am on the 14th. They still haven't shipped while goons who are AT&T customers that ordered after 12pm on the same day are getting shipped statuses. I just call it being a Sprint customer (not blaming them, just part of the charm).

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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nate fisher posted:

I ordered a 16 and 32 from Apple at 4:20 am on the 14th. They still haven't shipped while goons who are AT&T customers that ordered after 12pm on the same day are getting shipped statuses. I just call it being a Sprint customer (not blaming them, just part of the charm).

Well Apple has switched my 32GB to shipping soon, but no change in my 16GB (I guess it will change in next 24). So it looks like Sprint phones are shipping from Apple now, because before AT&T was jumping ahead of us.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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thenakedflip posted:

Sorry if it's been posted, I'm using the Awful app and can't search right now. For iPhones, is it better to just get Apple care and drop TEP? Seems like it would save money in the long run if it does provides the same protections as TEP.

Also last I heard TEP is not offered for iPhones. You could skip AppleCare+ if you want. If you break it an Apple store would replace it for $199 which is only $60 more that the $100 for AppleCare+ plus the $40 deductible. That said I have it on my iPhones.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Crosspost from Apple thread: FYI for Sprint customers you can order AppleCare+ through Sprint and they will add to your bill. I just added AppleCare+ on 2 5s and I don't have to pay for it until 11/15. I am sure everyone knew this, but just in case because I didn't.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

FYI while I think the system actually let's it on there either way, official rules are Sprint can only do this within the first 24 hours of the phone being activated, after that you have 30 days to have apple authorize it.

Yes that is what the Sprint rep told us. My wife has to call in to activate hers due to going from Android to iPhone, and they offered it to us. I was planning to call Apple later that day to add it, but it is nice to just be billed for it next cycle. Reminds me of how you use to buy phones from Sprint.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

You have to buy the phone from Sprint for them to be able to sign you up with Apple care.

Iphone 5s are rumored to be in decent stock at the Apple store. Which makes me jealous, and you should be fine.

I preordered mine from Apple, so I didn't buy them from Sprint. Only reason I ever spoke with Sprint was the Android to iPhone issue. The phone rep was like you want to add AppleCare+ to your phones and be billed for it.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Giblet posted:

As I understand it apple care must be added in the same transaction as the phone activation. If added after the fact the charge will still generate on the Sprint bill but apple will not be properly notified of the addition.

My phone was activated 12 hours before my wife, but since I went for a 4S to 5 the phone activated itself in 1 minute. The rep did mention the 24 hour thing.

Just to be sure I did go to apple.com after my wife got off the call and both phones were register with AppleCare+ already.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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AvesPKS posted:

Thanks for the replies.

So to be absolutely sure I've got AppleCare, if I buy the phone from the Apple Store I need to purchase AppleCare at that time?

If I can get it added to the bill then I can trick myself into thinking it isn't costing as much as it actually does.

I ordered mine online from Apple so not sure if that makes a difference.

You don't have to get AppleCare+ when you purchase your phone. You have 30 days to call Apple or go to the Apple store to add it. So instead call Sprint within 24 hours to see if you can add it. They will send you an email with backup while you are on the call and you can check Apple's site to ensure added. Worst case would be Sprint for some reason doesn't do it and all you have to do is call Apple to add it.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Ender.uNF posted:

My stock answer is give the iPhone a try and if you don't like it, sell it and use the funds to buy a different phone at retail price; they hold value really well compared to other phones. So far I haven't had anyone take me up on the "sell it" part.

When I gave up the "fiddle with task manager", "edit the registry", and "flash custom ROM" bullshit I was so into on Windows Mobile, I realized that my iPhone just works and I can stop loving with it. I turned my attention to sussing out apps/games and spent more time actually using it as a computer instead of babysitting it. PC-free (no iTunes!) and the ease of just shooting apps, video, etc over to the AppleTV made the experience complete. The first time I tried to send video to AppleTV it worked, no configuration, no entering codes, no loving with network settings... the poo poo just worked.

YMMV of course.

Pretty much describes why I have so far converted 3 of my Android lines to iPhones.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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ThermoPhysical posted:

(e: I know you don't like iOS, but the iPhone is the only Sprint phone I know of that could keep its value that long.)

I got offered $450 for my 32GB iPhone 4S a week before the 5 was released (instead I gave it to my daughter as promised). It is pretty amazing how the iPhone holds its value. I read that some of the unlocked 64GB were going for $800 to $900.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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fyallm posted:

Yeah I thought about the iphone5 but she likes to throw phones around, she had her original Razor forever, and she loved it becuase she would smash it on the ground and other things... Also she hates apple, and I don't know if I could talk her into getting one.

Do the otterbox cases make the iphone not so fragile if she drops it once it will be done for?

iPhone 5 while you can scratch it, it is not fragile like the 4S (check the iPhone 5 vs. SG3 drop test). That said if she loves phones she can smash to the ground she doesn't need a smartphone at all. You can drop all most any smart phone and if it hits at a certain angle the screen can crack.

Also since she doesn't have loyalty to a brand (like Samsung) or an OS (like Android) the reason for the Apple hate is just because. I had to grow up and learn that hating a company or product just because (products I had no real experience with) was just immature on my part.

Edit: Drop test video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1PobOh_A-8

That said otterbox while ugly (I would never own one), but does protect the phone pretty good. I just got AppleCare+ and a very slim case (just to protect from scratches).

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nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Duckman2008 posted:

I wouldn't buy any LG phone for the record.

Yes I was shocked that they went with a LG Nexus. If some of the leaked reviews turn out to be half true it is going to be disaster.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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Lowen SoDium posted:

I would not put much stock in the leaked reviews since it's Beta hardware and software.

But keep in mind that before the Samsung Nexus phones came out, they had a really lovely rep too, and now everyone waits a Galaxy S III. Maybe LG can pull a similar turn around.

Correct, and Samsung did show some progress with the SGII, and even better was the Samsung Nexus 4S. So anything is possible, but LG is a bigger longshot than Samsung. What do I know I'm out of the Android game now, but I am just surprised it was LG.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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If I didn't have 5 lines I would be joining you. Sprint will turn it around? Right?

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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In this day and age there is no excuse for not knowing the true pros and cons of a phone before going into a store. There just too much information out there on the net. Every phone I purchased in the last 12 years I knew I wanted before going into the store. Yes certain things like hands on feel you can only do in the store, but you should be just informed as the sales person.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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the littlest prince posted:

Nobody has infinite time.

Really? If going to sign a 2 year contract on a phone you better make some time.

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nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

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IOwnCalculus posted:

Thanks to the contract, a cell phone is one of the most expensive purchases most people will ever make. I've bought cars that cost less than a cell phone including the contract, and yet nobody ever would say "oh just go buy a car they're all the same".

I am amazed at how many people I know that go buy a cell phone blind. You can spend your lunch time at work for a couple of days and make a well informed decision.

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