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1-3 and 3-3 are fantastic, what are you guys talking about? They have the two most interesting witnesses (in terms of the origins of their contradictions) in the series, and the final confrontation with the criminal in 3-3 is one of my favorites.
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Regy Rusty posted:1-3 and 3-3 are fantastic, what are you guys talking about? They have the two most interesting witnesses (in terms of the origins of their contradictions) in the series, and the final confrontation with the criminal in 3-3 is one of my favorites. edit: oh wait holy snaps, we're talking about 3-3, not 2-3. Wow I'm such an idiot.
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| # ? Aug 16, 2012 23:56 |
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Regy Rusty posted:1-3 and 3-3 are fantastic, what are you guys talking about? They have the two most interesting witnesses (in terms of the origins of their contradictions) in the series, and the final confrontation with the criminal in 3-3 is one of my favorites. 1-3 is one of the ones I haven't played. I guess 3-3 has great characters, and it's fine once it gets going, but man does it take a long time to get going. The section with the mirror in the room was annoying for me, not just because I'm one of those people who has trouble visualizing right and left sometimes, but also because it turned out to be more or less a complete waste of time. Also the final confrontation involves Phoenix playing really fast and loose. Granted, it could be rationalized as a slightly more involved bluff, which is pretty much how it shakes out, but it just slightly breaks character with how I'd expected Phoenix to act at that point.
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| # ? Aug 16, 2012 23:56 |
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The biggest issue I have with 1-3 is that it's unfortunate enough to be in the same game as 1-4 and 1-5, which both overshadow it massively. There's some other issues I have with it too, but one of them is more a retroactive thing than an issue with the case itself. When you have Oldbag in the same amount of games as Phoenix, there's something wrong. As for 3-3, I kinda dislike how you have to get the resolution. It's not particularly imaginative and I think they sorta wrote themselves into a corner if that was how they had to do it. Still beats the denouement (and completely pointless and arbitrary "twist") of 1-2, but that's not particularly hard.
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| # ? Aug 17, 2012 00:00 |
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Dragonatrix posted:As for 3-3, I kinda dislike how you have to get the resolution. It's not particularly imaginative and I think they sorta wrote themselves into a corner if that was how they had to do it. Still beats the denouement (and completely pointless and arbitrary "twist") of 1-2, but that's not particularly hard. 3-3 and 1-2 are both Phoenix basically bluffing his way to wins in a way that if Furio Tigre were at all smart or if Redd White were half as smart as he thought he was both would have easily avoided. Oddly, enough, the same tactic of bluffing when the witness could've walked if he'd kept his mouth shut was the answer in 4-3. I have mixed feelings about that inevitable point in the case when the guilty guy is so obviously guilty that even the prosecutor ditches him, but the witness is still shouting, "OK, you have me at the murder, you have me possessing the murder weapon, you have a rock-solid motive, and you've proven that I'm literally the only person who could've done it, but you haven't expressly proven I pulled the trigger." I guess that's what 4-4 was all about : The Jurists will have none of that poo poo.
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| # ? Aug 17, 2012 02:40 |
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Thanks to all you guys who recommended Ghost Trick in this thread. I was lucky enough to find a used copy a couple days ago, and blazed through it. Goddamn, this is better than almost all the Ace Attorney games, save T&T (the best forever, Godot owns). Missile is the best character. Just...my god, now for some reason I kind of want a Pomeranian. 
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| # ? Aug 22, 2012 12:44 |
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Agreed. Absolutely loved it when I played through it on my iPhone - I just wish I could get more of my friends into it, but they're all either not interested or don't have an iOS device.
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| # ? Aug 22, 2012 13:01 |
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Speaking of iOS, the HD trilogy has been dated-ish. http://www.joystiq.com/2012/08/29/p...-ios-this-fall/ It'll be on iOS5, so probably sometime after the (rumored) September 21st launch of the new iPhone. Prices are also missing but I'd bet on $5 for each. In other news, the Ace Attorney movie is now flying around the internet but no one has subbed it in English yet. No announced date on the english release either.
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| # ? Aug 29, 2012 15:58 |
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Skychrono posted:It'll be on iOS5, so probably sometime after the (rumored) September 21st launch of the new iPhone. Prices are also missing but I'd bet on $5 for each. iOS 5 is already out, and has been for a while. It's iOS6 that probably won't be released until the phone comes out--We should hear about the final beta coming soon-ish; it's been surprisingly stable the entire way through. I'd be pretty happy with $5/ea- there has been a lot of DS ports coming out recently at the $20-30 mark, which is a bit more than I'm willing to pay for them. Hopefully $5-10 is a good, profitable point for them.
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| # ? Aug 29, 2012 16:03 |
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Shmoogy posted:iOS 5 is already out, and has been for a while. It's iOS6 that probably won't be released until the phone comes out--We should hear about the final beta coming soon-ish; it's been surprisingly stable the entire way through. Oops, you're right, I misread/thought that. Thanks. I got the first AA for $2 on iOS when it was on sale, and I think it started at $6.
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| # ? Aug 29, 2012 16:05 |
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Capcom seem to know how to port DS games to iOS, what with giving a good portion of the game as a demo and letting you buy it at a reasonable price from there, if Ghost Trick is anything to go by. I've already played PW1-3 about 3 or 4 times through, but I'm tempted to buy the lot just to support Capcom with what they're doing! The only thing that would make it perfect would it being an iPhone/iPad universal app with iCloud for the save games, like how Infinity Blade does it.
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| # ? Aug 29, 2012 16:11 |
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I've been wanting to play through the PW games again for a while now, so this is definitely something I'll be picking up. It's just 1-3 though right? So I still need a DS-type thing if I want to play Apollo Justice. (or the Edgeworth games but those are a seperate series so I wouldn't expect them in there)
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| # ? Aug 29, 2012 16:29 |
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So is there a place I can get the soundtrack for Justice For all, someone said it was on iTunes but I can't find it.
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| # ? Aug 30, 2012 07:58 |
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Kelp Plankton posted:I've been wanting to play through the PW games again for a while now, so this is definitely something I'll be picking up. It's just 1-3 though right? So I still need a DS-type thing if I want to play Apollo Justice. (or the Edgeworth games but those are a seperate series so I wouldn't expect them in there) That's right. Though 1-3 are the good ones anyway. After that play Ghost Trick.
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| # ? Aug 30, 2012 12:57 |
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Skychrono posted:That's right. Though 1-3 are the good ones anyway. After that play Ghost Trick. Hey, Ace Attorney Investigation is great and totally worth a playthrough  And I can't give up the hope that maybe we'll see the sequel on ios.
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| # ? Aug 30, 2012 13:36 |
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Skychrono posted:Speaking of iOS, the HD trilogy has been dated-ish. Do me a favor and let me know when the movie gets translated. I'm really bad at keeping up with translations.
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The Blu-ray disc of the Ace Attorney movie just came in the mail today. The movie was exactly as I had expected: Wacky. courtroom. drama.  They've done such an incredible job with the props and game-to-movie adaption solutions for this movie. Some things I had barely expected to see, but they were all there, prominently displayed in all of their freaking glory. Since I've played this game series way more than I can count, I can't give an un-biased opinion about the movie for people who are not familiar with the games. But as a fan, I absolutely adored this thing and I couldn't help but smile the whole way through. Movie spoilers Oh my gosh, Yani Yogi at the end. I felt bad for him during the game, but the movie adaption made it just so freaking sad. I almost shed a tear during that scene, the poor guy. And is it just me, or did the director decide to cut out some content from the movie? Some scene transitions were made way too quickly or didn't make any sense. I have a feeling that this movie was intended to last longer. HelloWinter fucked around with this message at Sep 1, 2012 around 15:29 |
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I've never played a Phoenix Wright game before, but I'm very interested in it. Does basically every court case have Phoenix pointing and yelling, "Objection?", because that's what I can gather from this game thus far with references to it from goons.
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| # ? Aug 31, 2012 19:58 |
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It's half point-and-click adventure game, half courtroom scenes where you answer questions and go over witness testimony. You do indeed yell Objection! to a lot of things when covering witnesses, in particular. At least three times per case, usually much more.
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| # ? Aug 31, 2012 20:06 |
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Mennonites Revenge posted:It's half point-and-click adventure game, half courtroom scenes where you answer questions and go over witness testimony. You do indeed yell Objection! to a lot of things when covering witnesses, in particular. At least three times per case, usually much more. Interesting, thank you. I will most likely purchase it. Recommended starting game for newbies?
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| # ? Aug 31, 2012 20:12 |
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Just start at the beginning with Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, then go in order. Justice for All, and then Trials and Tribulations.
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| # ? Aug 31, 2012 20:13 |
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Yeah you should definitely play them in order, because there are plot points that span all three of the first games.
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In terms of difficulty, it's also a pretty much a monotonic increase across the games, so on that front the first game is probably your best bet, too. Be warned of the main exception: the fifth case of the first game, "Rise from the Ashes", is a bit of a bonus case. The games were originally released in Japan without it, and when the DS remakes came out, this fifth case was added. Consequently, it's a lot more complicated and can be more difficult at times.
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| # ? Sep 1, 2012 04:34 |
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Ineffiable posted:Do me a favor and let me know when the movie gets translated. I'm really bad at keeping up with translations. There are some fansubs that came out recently, but they're a separate file you have to apply yourself. They're not flawless, but they're perfectly serviceable. I'd link them, but I'm not sure if it would count as  or not.Also yes, the movie is really good and I can't wait for it to come out in America (if it ever does, the only international release confirmed is German) so I can show it to all my friends.
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| # ? Sep 3, 2012 18:20 |
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The latest Famitsu had another tidbit of AA5 news. http://andriasang.com/con2ku/ace_attorney_famitsu/ Phoenix Wright is going to be the main character, and the game will take place one year after AA4. He's going to have a new sidekick, not Maya. Personally, I'm a little disappointed they didn't commit to Apollo.
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Sir Ilpalazzo posted:The latest Famitsu had another tidbit of AA5 news. So am I, but I can totally understand why they didn't. Apollo was OK, but the game around him was so bad that it's better just to wash your hands of the whole thing VVV Winston nooooo  VVV
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| # ? Sep 4, 2012 23:55 |
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Speaking of the "mysterious" new assistant, am I alone in thinking that she looks suspsiciously similar to Thalassa Gramarye? But, really, the second biggest disappoint? Payne's being replaced by a younger relative.
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| # ? Sep 4, 2012 23:59 |
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Oh my God Phoenix has a waistcoat this is awesome.  I hope Apollo at least appears in some capacity. I liked the little guy and his game.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:01 |
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At first I was a little disappointed that Apollo wouldn't get another game. Then I saw this: 
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:07 |
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I thought one of the bigger points of Apollo Justice was that the old court system sucked and they needed a new one, so the crazy tug of war courtroom antics weren't needed anymore.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:13 |
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Dragonatrix posted:But, really, the second biggest disappoint? Payne's being replaced by a younger relative. Dude what are you talking about that's great.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:13 |
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Regy Rusty posted:At first I was a little disappointed that Apollo wouldn't get another game. I cannot wait to see what Edgeworth looks like, now that Phoenix's ante'd up the fop and style.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:31 |
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I'm disappointed Apollo isn't getting another chance, but Phoenix is looking good in his new outfit. I'm glad Payne isn't coming back to be honest, I was tired of him always being the first case's prosecutor.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:32 |
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 Oh wow, it's using models instead of sprites. Couldn't even tell from the other pictures but now that I'm really eyeballing them I can see it.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:49 |
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I'd get excited but I don't see Capcom greenlighting this in English because it's Capcom. I mean logically, yes, they'll greenlight it because it's in the main series and not a side-series like Investigations, but I'm cynical. e. vvv no iPhone. If Capcom released an Android version I'd be all over it. Casull fucked around with this message at Sep 5, 2012 around 01:01 |
| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:52 |
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Just buy the HD Trilogy on iOS so Capcom knows there's still a market.
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 00:53 |
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Gotta say, I really do not like the sound of this. Phoenix's journey was over and we had Apollo, who we barely know anything about. He was already ruined the last game, why doesn't Phoenix get to rest?
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 01:17 |
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Momomo posted:Gotta say, I really do not like the sound of this. Phoenix's journey was over and we had Apollo, who we barely know anything about. He was already ruined the last game, why doesn't Phoenix get to rest? BECAUSE EVERYONE LOVES PHOENIX. Large part of the reason as to why he was forced into the game in Apollo, quite frankly that hurt the character considerably since he was never given a chance to shine, it was either that rock star prosecutor leading him around or Phoenix taking over. Curious as to how his character will play, will he still the same insecure guy? Or will he be more like his AP self, being confident in everything(ala edgeworth in PW3).
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| # ? Sep 5, 2012 01:41 |
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Dragonatrix posted:Speaking of the "mysterious" new assistant, am I alone in thinking that she looks suspsiciously similar to Thalassa Gramarye? Aw, I wouldn't have minded Pearl being our assistant for the whole game, but I'm excited for more Phoenix (or just more of this series in general really)
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Thalassa being the woman from the last game? That doesn't really look like her at all. I'd be more inclined to say it is Pearl.
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