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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

BexGu posted:

I'm curious now that the show is over, but how well did it do in the ratings in Japan? Wasn't it a surprise hit considering the main character is a 30 year old single father and most of the cast was out of high school?

It was a huge success. Tiger currently sits at #1 on popularity polls and Bunny at #3 or so.

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DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Aim for the TOP!


I hope the second season (we can star making wish lists now right?) goes back to the shows earlier format and feature some one on one time with the individual heroes. I loved the show over all but my favorite parts by far were some of the vignettes each hero. Except in the last ep where it went BUDGET EXPANSION MODE, the heros seemed to lose something when they are all fighting together, and even if they are best buddies NOW, it was still nice when there was a little friendly competition.

Hell, barely anyone seemed to be fighting for points aside from wanting to make the sponsors happy. It'd be pretty easy to introduce a rival that's all about taking the King of Heros name and gaming the system to do so.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

ImpAtom posted:

It was a huge success. Tiger currently sits at #1 on popularity polls and Bunny at #3 or so.

Great! Now if other producers and script writers realize you don't have to create a series about a high school-er and his 12 year old looking, 1000 year old girlfriend as they fight the scantly clad highschool aliens from the future.

Or just create more stuff not based upon a already created manga or recycling a new series again.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


BexGu posted:

Great! Now if other producers and script writers realize you don't have to create a series about a high school-er and his 12 year old looking, 1000 year old girlfriend as they fight the scantly clad highschool aliens from the future.

Or just create more stuff not based upon a already created manga or recycling a new series again.

The lesson anime studios will probably learn is that older men can be moe too, so they will put out the exact same trash with Tiger ripoffs in place of scantily clad little girls. New things are risky compared to the same old wretched pandering, which is assured at least some level of success.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

who's this LITTLE SPAGHETTI?? ??


Serious Frolicking posted:

The lesson anime studios will probably learn is that older men can be moe too, so they will put out the exact same trash with Tiger ripoffs in place of scantily clad little girls. New things are risky compared to the same old wretched pandering, which is assured at least some level of success.

I welcome a future where moe middle aged male anime protagonists are a regular occurrence.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

DamnGlitch posted:


I hope the second season (we can star making wish lists now right?) goes back to the shows earlier format and feature some one on one time with the individual heroes.


I want Rock Bison to be the King of Heroes in Season 2 and for him to hitch up with Scarf Girl. Basically, everything goes right for him. He deserves it after the shabby treatment he got in Season 1.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


Serious Frolicking posted:

The lesson anime studios will probably learn is that older men can be moe too, so they will put out the exact same trash with Tiger ripoffs in place of scantily clad little girls. New things are risky compared to the same old wretched pandering, which is assured at least some level of success.

Pretty much this. I imagine we'll see a yaoi series version of Tiger and Bunny in no time. Or a series much like Tiger and Bunny, but with huge-tittied girls who constantly lose their clothes while their huge titties flap around, defying all physics.

quote:

I want Rock Bison to be the King of Heroes in Season 2 and for him to hitch up with Scarf Girl. Basically, everything goes right for him. He deserves it after the shabby treatment he got in Season 1.

Rock seems like the sort of hero who in twenty years will own a bar where he spends all his time talking about "the good old days", while complaining about modern heroes.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Aim for the TOP!


Liar posted:

Or a series much like Tiger and Bunny, but with huge-tittied girls who constantly lose their clothes while their huge titties flap around, defying all physics.


Rock seems like the sort of hero who in twenty years will own a bar where he spends all his time talking about "the good old days", while complaining about modern heroes.

I want both of these to be series so bad you have no idea. I mean, the former pretty much exists without the western superhero package but still.

And grumpy bar tales is awesome. I wish there were a few more go out and have fun drinking sessions in TnB. Too many depressed end up at a bar drinking sessions

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

"I'm curious!!"
"...ah...w-well..."

gnome7 posted:

I welcome a future where moe middle aged male anime protagonists are a regular occurrence.

there's a few websites that

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Tae posted:

However, I'm extremely cautious because I can't remember a 2nd season Sunrise show that was anywhere near its 1st season in terms of quality.

Code Geass had a sorta excuse because it moved timeslots, but Gundam 00 reminded us this was the same writer that gave us Nazi Full Metal Alchemist.

Please be good and stay the same theme, writers.

Look at it less as a second season and more as a sequel series. If you do it that way, you have stuff like Zeta Gundam and so on that were sweet.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


The real danger is that someone will decide T&B was popular because of super heroes and ignore everything the recent marvel animes got wrong. In other words, more terrible, terrible adaptations of english comics.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009


If you're wondering about the Dragonball references that were peppered in Tiger and Bunny (The Full Nelson, Kaede's Ice Hadoken, Sky High's Sky Bomb, the Jake Games, etc), it might be a result of the main character designer, Masakazu Katsura being best buds with Akira Toryama.

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.

I want to see a Dragon Kid & Scarf Girl confrontation where they accuse each other of stealing the others voice.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

Skullgirls? Rockmen?
Fuck'em all!


Last Episode: As much as people are dissing the 1 year later timeskip (I'll admit, it was pretty badly done, but I think it was intentional.), I will give it a pass if only for the fact that it did the exact opposite of what conclusionary timeskips do. With a couple small exceptions, it showed that the characters didn't change at all in the mean-time. That's amazing, if you think about it, and just goes to show how likeable the characters are that I'm not pissed they didn't change.

I have to wonder about Tiger's massive drop in power, though. He lost about a minute's worth of time for Hundred Power in the three months or so that passed through the second half of the series. And with only one minute left, you have to wonder how long he even has that. Yes, the point was to show that he didn't care about the time limit, but if they're going for a season two, I just know they're going to pull some re-powering Deus Ex Machina out of their rear end, and I'm going to hate them for it, because out of 25 years of being a nerd, I've never seen cash-ins ever handle that properly.

Jim the Nickel
Mar 2, 2006


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

AlternateNu posted:


I have to wonder about Tiger's massive drop in power, though. He lost about a minute's worth of time for Hundred Power in the three months or so that passed through the second half of the series. And with only one minute left, you have to wonder how long he even has that. Yes, the point was to show that he didn't care about the time limit, but if they're going for a season two, I just know they're going to pull some re-powering Deus Ex Machina out of their rear end, and I'm going to hate them for it, because out of 25 years of being a nerd, I've never seen cash-ins ever handle that properly.

Saito uses the androids as a jumping-off point to help make a strength-enhancing suit for Tiger. Problem solved. Still able to fight, still able to GOOD LUCK MODE, just gotta stay in the suit.

Also whoever mentioned earlier that next season should be called Dragon & Bison, get out of my brain.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


Jim the Nickel posted:

Saito uses the androids as a jumping-off point to help make a strength-enhancing suit for Tiger. Problem solved. Still able to fight, still able to GOOD LUCK MODE, just gotta stay in the suit.

Also whoever mentioned earlier that next season should be called Dragon & Bison, get out of my brain.

I don't think I'd like the idea of Tiger becoming Iron Man. I really can't imagine that the series wouldn't continue to focus on Tiger in a second season. I know it's been said over and over, but I'm keeping my bet on the orange glow having a lot to do with his comeback. Even if Tiger's power only lasted a minute, with his Thousand Power he'd still be insane for that minute.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009


Well, if he's Had One Minute of Hundred Power after a Year maybe it's stabilized now.

I Kiss Dementors
Dec 11, 2007


As a kid, I loved watching anime. It was so colorful and exciting and action-packed and awesome. Then I got older, and everyone was obsessed with Naruto and Inuyasha, and I assumed that I would never be able to feel that way about anime ever again.

My hope of ever loving another anime died.

But then I saw Tiger and Bunny, and realized that it was never actually dead; it had just passed out, and I had forgotten to check its pulse!

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

Super Strong


JosephWongKS posted:

It might be interesting to try and predict in what ways Sunrise might screw up T&B Season 2.

Have Blue Rose in a serious romantic relationship with Tiger.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


jonjonaug posted:

Have Blue Rose in a serious romantic relationship with Tiger.

Have Blue Rose in a serious romantic relationship with Fire Emblem. Now, and always has been an over idealised macho asian superman.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

jonjonaug posted:

Have Blue Rose in a serious romantic relationship with Tiger.


(a) Have Kaede in a serious romantic relationship with Tiger. But it's okay because she's actually adopted and not his biological daughter.

(b) Series becomes a harem comedy with Barnaby, Blue Rose, Agnes, Scarf Girl, a re-constructed Cis, and zombie-Tomoe, zombie-Kriem and zombie-Samantha all hankering for their piece of Tiger meat.

JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at Sep 20, 2011 around 23:10

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

Super Strong


JosephWongKS posted:

Have Kaede in a serious romantic relationship with Tiger.

Have Kaede in a serious romantic reltationship with Blue Rose (she was using her powers at the end there you know that's going somewhere).

Whizbang
Sep 21, 2008


Have Scarf Girl in a serious business relationship with Ouroboros.

Liar
Dec 14, 2003

Smarts > Wisdom


Whizbang posted:

Have Scarf Girl in a serious business relationship with Ouroboros.

Scarf Girl is Ouroboros. Her NEXT ability is that she is everywhere at once. She watches all other NEXTs at all times. There's no plotting against her because she's already there, listening and watching. She can kill you in your sleep or while you're on the toilet... She'll know when you're at your weakest!

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006



Liar posted:

Scarf Girl is Ouroboros.

A scarf is vaguely snakelike, it all makes sense now.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

Come on, Kickstarter my heart!


Yeah, that was a great ending to a great season. Nicely done.

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

I'm not racist. Some of my best friends are dinosaurs!


Jake had two powers because he had a twin fetus inside of him.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

404GoonNotFound posted:


Demicol posted:


Great episode. Be sure to stick around after the credits because there is a bit of stuff before the preview, including the indentity of Lunatic, if it wasnt obvious.


So he is Mr. Legend in a girdle?


Was going through the thread again and found this post being made after Episode 8. That turned out to be chillingly prescient.

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004

"Good."


When it comes to Tiger being 'repowered', I don't know that they'd really have to bullshit that much to do it. After all, the only 'confirmed' hero to lose their power was Legend, who didn't even make it the full cycle as far as we know. Tiger could actually be going through an evolutionary phase, as he first guessed.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


Yawgmoft posted:

When it comes to Tiger being 'repowered', I don't know that they'd really have to bullshit that much to do it. After all, the only 'confirmed' hero to lose their power was Legend, who didn't even make it the full cycle as far as we know. Tiger could actually be going through an evolutionary phase, as he first guessed.

They've already provided themselves an out for it with the orange glow back in episode 13 or 14. It hasn't been expanded upon since, but with Jake already having an orange glow and two powers they could use it to give Tiger a new or stronger power if they wished. They don't have to go this route if they don't want to, but it's the most likely scenario seeing as how the setup is already in place and wouldn't be stretching viewer disbelief at all.

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004

"Good."


Also, has anyone figured out who has magnetic powers?

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Yawgmoft posted:

Also, has anyone figured out who has magnetic powers?

For all we know, it's just someone from her school, or even someone in Kotetsu's family who never "awakened" their power or whatever.

Alectai
Dec 31, 2008

It doesn't matter how long I live, I will never have a hat as dashing as this.

Yawgmoft posted:

Also, has anyone figured out who has magnetic powers?

Nope, that was never addressed, it's a Chekov's Gun that remained unfired this season.

It's probably either a preview of what Tiger's "New Power" is going to be, or that his brother's a NEXT with magnetic powers.

Of course, I don't see Kotetsu ever making good use of a magnetism power, so welp.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


It could still be Kotetsu's mother, too. Again, I don't think the person with magnet powers was anyone outside of the immediate family, because Kaede wasn't going to go out while she was breaking things left and right. There are plenty of reasons why either of the candidates would hide their power. That, or Kaede is capable of retaining more than one power at a time somehow, even though she wasn't able to do so later.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

It costs you four hundred thousand dollars to change this avatar...for twelve seconds.

Liar posted:

I don't think I'd like the idea of Tiger becoming Iron Man. I really can't imagine that the series wouldn't continue to focus on Tiger in a second season. I know it's been said over and over, but I'm keeping my bet on the orange glow having a lot to do with his comeback. Even if Tiger's power only lasted a minute, with his Thousand Power he'd still be insane for that minute.

Iron Tiger.

I'd take it.

arhra
Jun 27, 2006


Serious Frolicking posted:

There are plenty of reasons why either of the candidates would hide their power.

Or the original could only manifest the power at a very low level. There's no indication she copies the strength of the power, merely the mechanics (and her little memorywipe lightshow certainly looked more impressive than Maverick's ever did... although that could also just be a control issue).

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


arhra posted:

Or the original could only manifest the power at a very low level. There's no indication she copies the strength of the power, merely the mechanics (and her little memorywipe lightshow certainly looked more impressive than Maverick's ever did... although that could also just be a control issue).

True. If Maverick could mess with memories using a light show he would have done so. It doesn't make much sense that he could only manipulate memories at short range, but cancel the effects over a wide area. Maverick made little balls of light with his hands, which he seemed to insert into people's heads. He did this to unconscious people, so obviously he didn't need to make them see his lights. For that matter, the length and frequency of Kaede's hundred power activations weren't ever specified.

Gackt
Jul 7, 2006
MAGNUM

Kotetsu's hat is up for preorder. Naturally it's way overpriced, with shipping and going through a proxy it'll probably cost $130.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Gackt posted:

Kotetsu's hat is up for preorder. Naturally it's way overpriced, with shipping and going through a proxy it'll probably cost $130.

At least it's not like Quattro's sunglasses (<---) which were limited release and cost like $300.

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Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010

Down with the Illuminati Scum
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The way Kaede invokes powers is different from all others as well. Instead of glowing she bursts into blue fire. I kinda like to think that 2nd gen Next are stronger than 1st gen ones. At least thats what I get from Kaede and Lunatic.

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