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Shipon posted:http://i.imgur.com/LizBJ.jpg If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine You are terrible. Also a week is now forever to wait. Speculation: Okarin becomes Homura without the guns. Shipon posted:http://i.imgur.com/mKgm3.jpg You are redeemed. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at Jun 21, 2011 around 20:16 |
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jonjonaug posted:You are terrible. http://i.imgur.com/mKgm3.jpg I am glad I will be having something to watch next season.
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 20:13 |
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^^^ Wow, that was fast. Good work, internet. (12):  Redcrimson posted:until a squad of lazer-armed chrono-ninjas invades Future Gadget Labs. I think it's just as likely to be Moeka Well gently caress. I was close. I knew poo poo was gonna go down eventually but... Mayuri?! Nooooooooo! Tuturuu... 
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 20:27 |
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No.
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 20:51 |
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Totally Obvious Speculation incoming! Obviously, these turns of events suck major donkey balls for Okabe and company. What's lucky is that seemingly, Okabe and company are also a technological step ahead. What does this mean? While Mayushi was expendable, Okabe, Kurisu and Daru aren't. Moeka cannot afford shooting either of these three if they want to know how this poo poo works. How can they use this to their advantage? This just might be what's necessary to push Hououin Kyouma into action. Instead of careful Okabe Rintarou who wouldn't test the Time Leap machine on himself, Hououin Kyouma doesn't give a gently caress about consequences and will probably use it to save Mayuri. Edit: What are you talking about it was all spoiler tagged all the time. 
Exercu fucked around with this message at Jun 21, 2011 around 22:37 |
| # ? Jun 21, 2011 21:33 |
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Exercu posted:Totally Obvious Speculation incoming! Please just spoil that entire post, it's painfully obvious what's in the tags due to context.
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 22:25 |
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Hot balls. I did not see this coming. I don't know what to think after this episode. Shipon posted:http://i.imgur.com/mKgm3.jpg Wait... somehow this all makes sense now...
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 22:27 |
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Holy poo poo. This loving show. Edit with some speculation: Since this show is all about time travel, I'm hoping that Mayushi is savable. I just didn't see any of this coming. After this episode, my guess is that Moeka can also travel across world lines. Also, it seems kind of obvious to me that the part-time soldier(forgot her name) is from the future since she knows all this stuff about what's going to happen. Beyond that I can't even start to predict what's going to happen. It all depends on whether Okabe gets super depressed or super mad over Mayushi's death. gst_Spectre fucked around with this message at Jun 21, 2011 around 22:37 |
| # ? Jun 21, 2011 22:32 |
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Great episode. There is a lot of stuff in this anime I like. Okabe's crazy antics are awesome. I'm looking forward to next Tuesday now....
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 23:25 |
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Ugh okay this week I will resist the urge to read any spoilers until I get home and can watch this. It's gonna be a long day.
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| # ? Jun 21, 2011 23:26 |
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The gross violation of the Pigeonhole principle really annoyed me, but that's mostly because I'm a programmer. The rest of the show is awesome enough that I'm going to pretend it makes sense anyway. Given that Kirisu dies in the first episode, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised by another death, but it still hit me pretty hard. Not tututuru!
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 00:38 |
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I knew something was coming from very early in this episode. It was just a feeling, but I knew the time leap couldn't just be abandoned. Something terrible was going to force them to use it. It wasn't until the scene on the roof that everything came into razor sharp focus, though. "It's okay now, isn't it? Even if Mayushii isn't your hostage anymore." She knew! She bloody well knew exactly what was coming and kept smiling through the whole evening. What went so wrong in the previous future that she felt the need to sacrifice herself like that? Why couldn't she just tell anyone? Now the clocks ticking. 48 hours to set things right. This is going to be a long week.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 00:42 |
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Astribulus posted:I knew something was coming from very early in this episode. It was just a feeling, but I knew Not necessarily. Part-Time Soldier obviously has knowledge of the future and it's events. She was a "Hey i'm from the future" plot point since the first time she ever showed up. She's been there way longer than 48 hours, which leads you to believe that the 48 hour requirement either becomes overcome, or she went back some other way. Also, how would Mayuri know? How would she send her memories back if she knew she was going to die, since if she knew it was going to happen she would have had to already die and it just seems unlikely that a corpse can send its memories back
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 00:57 |
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tuturuu~  I'm also hoping the part-time chick does something next episode. Like going back in time and killing Shining Finger. Bitch deserves to die after killing tuturuu~ like that. Next Tuesday cannot come fast enough.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 01:46 |
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SennyYak posted:The gross violation of the Pigeonhole principle really annoyed me, but that's mostly because I'm a programmer. Could you say what it is you're referring to specifically? I'm sure you're right, I just don't remember anything that really jumped out at me besides the ludicrously implausible explanation on how the time leap machine works, but this is anime so I don't care about that. Anyway, I'm really impressed that almost all of our theories were wrong, at least about Moeka. Some of them were really good, but leave it to this show to throw us such a curveball. Okay, maybe some people sort of saw it coming but if you didn't think this episode was shocking and awesome, you're extremely jaded.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 01:51 |
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Vincent Valentine posted:Not necessarily. Part-Time Soldier obviously has knowledge of the future and it's events. She was a "Hey i'm from the future" plot point since the first time she ever showed up. She's been there way longer than 48 hours, which leads you to believe that the 48 hour requirement either becomes overcome, or she went back some other way. I think the idea is that she sacrificed herself on purpose to prevent some other possible future. Like, maybe Okabe sacrificed himself to save her in another future, and this time she did something to make sure she'd die and let him live. The 48 hour limit doesn't seem very set in stone to me, either. That was The Zombie's estimation on when a mind would be so different that the memories would not map anymore, but it seems like there could be ways to get around that. Also, I don't see any reason why you couldn't send a corpse's memories back in time, so long as the brain was well preserved.  edit: Rising-Grandpa posted:Could you say what it is you're referring to specifically? I'm sure you're right, I just don't remember anything that really jumped out at me besides the ludicrously implausible explanation on how the time leap machine works, but this is anime so I don't care about that. I think he's talking about their explanation for how they were going to compress multiple terabytes down into 36 bytes. Yeah. XboxPants fucked around with this message at Jun 22, 2011 around 01:55 |
| # ? Jun 22, 2011 01:52 |
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Well, I certainly didn't see that one coming.Rising-Grandpa posted:Could you say what it is you're referring to specifically? I'm sure you're right, I just don't remember anything that really jumped out at me besides the ludicrously implausible explanation on how the time leap machine works, but this is anime so I don't care about that.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 01:56 |
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XboxPants posted:I think the idea is that she sacrificed herself on purpose to prevent some other possible future. Like, maybe Okabe sacrificed himself to save her in another future, and this time she did something to make sure she'd die and let him live. Yeah, that was pretty much what I meant. I have no idea what went wrong in the future or how Mayushii would have ended up time leaping, but it felt like the truth on the roof before playing itself out tragically with SERN. My theory also ties in with her intimate understanding of the loneliness of hopping world lines. Maybe I'm reading too much into a few lines. Maybe she was just planning on leaving town for a while. Maybe it's just her natural empathy that gave her such insight on Okabe. Who knows? I'm just anxious to see what happens next.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 02:07 |
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XboxPants posted:I think he's talking about their explanation for how they were going to compress multiple terabytes down into 36 bytes. Yeah. Oh duh. Well, I always say if scientist and engineer types like many of us are going to be bothered by that kind of stuff, we may as well stop watching television and movies altogether.  Also, a friend pointed out to me that the Steins;Gate/"Take On Me" video posted a page or two back has new significance. It's probably just a coincidence, but "I'll be gone in a day or two."
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 02:43 |
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Sindai posted:I'm sure he's referring to the magical data compression ratio. Yep. It annoyed me when it came up, but I was kind of expecting it anyway, and then the rest of the episode happened and made it much less important. I just pretend there's some other explanation that doesn't defy logic.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 02:59 |
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no, no, no, no, no no I guess now is the time when playing around with serious poo poo, in fact causes some serious poo poo to go down. Which is good for me, because holy poo poo wow, what an episode! But not so good for Mayuri and the rest of the lab. :tuuturuusad: But the shopping scene was amazing. "I'm not a tsundere!"  
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 02:59 |
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This was an awesome episode. ~tututuru The Tsundere scenes were hilarious.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 03:39 |
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I miss Mayushii already...
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 04:03 |
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Holy shiiiit. Didn't see that coming at all, stone loving cold offing Mayuri like that. Hopefully Okabe manages to use the time machine to go back and get them all out before the SERN hit squad shows up.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 04:07 |
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SennyYak posted:Yep. It annoyed me when it came up, but I was kind of expecting it anyway, and then the rest of the episode happened and made it much less important. I just pretend there's some other explanation that doesn't defy logic. My personal explanation is that they use the fact that it's time travel anyway to make a sort of multi-universe split zip package that all unloads in the same place. Speaking of multi-verses: Remember that since time travel in this show does not happen in linear time, Mayuri of this time died a painful bullet-induced death, and lord knows how many more will until they find that magical new route where she doesn't. Which won't help all the previous multi-verse Mayuris.  Tuturuu~
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 04:13 |
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Thanks for that, just a ray of sunshine ain't ya.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 04:16 |
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Yikes, that's totally true. If it was like a different and also excellent time travel story Primer, for example there'd only be the one timeline and it's only the last revision that "counts". Multiverses are messy that way. Luckily there's this: Redcrimson posted:I miss Mayushii already...
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 04:27 |
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SennyYak posted:The gross violation of the Pigeonhole principle really annoyed me, but that's mostly because I'm a programmer. The rest of the show is awesome enough that I'm going to pretend it makes sense anyway. It annoyed me at first too but the explanation of using a BLACK HOLE to compress data was so great that I let it slide.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 09:20 |
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jonjonaug posted:It annoyed me at first too but the explanation of using a BLACK HOLE to compress data was so great that I let it slide. One argument I heard was that the LHC's power enabled it to compress the electrons themselves in such a way as to fit within the limit, when in reality the data itself remained uncompressed. The electrons would then somehow uncompress in the past and represent the full signal.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 11:15 |
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Shipon posted:One argument I heard was that the LHC's power enabled it to compress the electrons themselves in such a way as to fit within the limit, when in reality the data itself remained uncompressed. The electrons would then somehow uncompress in the past and represent the full signal. Can't stop the signal. I had a feeling it would be Moeka, and oh my it was. Killing off tuturuu~ though, I wonder where part-time warrior comes into play? I get the feeling that she knew that danger was near, which is why she booked it, to fight another day?
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 11:30 |
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Zahki posted:Hopefully Okabe manages to use the time machine to go back and get them all out before the SERN hit squad shows up. Also, I can't believe no one appears to be directly discussing what I thought was the most important part of the episode: the scene, thousands of years in the past, with Mayushii and Okabe. In that scene we learned, among other things:
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 13:49 |
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It could have been Okabe being melodramatic in some inner monologue though. I'm calling it here; Chekhov's Bomb, a bomb placed in a subwaystation in the first act MUST be used in the second/third.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 14:50 |
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helopticor posted:
Because there's no indication that it actually happened. Did they really travel 70 million years into the past? Is Kyouma just losing his mind? Was he dreaming, talking to himself, experiencing some sort of feedback from Reading Steiner? Maybe it's not 70 million years in the past, it's 70 million in the future and they're standing in a post apocalyptic wasteland and just think it's the past. Maybe he's just slowly becoming omnipotent! It's really hard to draw anything useful from that scene with no context. However, there's some clear context with the end scene with understandable results: women look good in leather, and Mayuri got shot in the face.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 18:09 |
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Vincent Valentine posted:Because there's no indication that it actually happened. Did they really travel 70 million years into the past? Is Kyouma just losing his mind? Was he dreaming, talking to himself, experiencing some sort of feedback from Reading Steiner? Maybe it's not 70 million years in the past, it's 70 million in the future and they're standing in a post apocalyptic wasteland and just think it's the past. (This is all episode 12 spoilers, if people are lost.)
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 18:51 |
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That hourglass standing still just before the lab invasion was so ominous and still unclear foreshadowing. SennyYak posted:The gross violation of the Pigeonhole principle really annoyed me, but that's mostly because I'm a programmer. The rest of the show is awesome enough that I'm going to pretend it makes sense anyway. I think what happens is that they send the data to LHC which somehow stashes it away outside space-time using a black hole, then they transfer some kind of coordinates to the data using the Phone Microwave.
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| # ? Jun 22, 2011 21:19 |
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Shipon posted:One argument I heard was that the LHC's power enabled it to compress the electrons themselves in such a way as to fit within the limit, when in reality the data itself remained uncompressed. The electrons would then somehow uncompress in the past and represent the full signal. I think it was a really weak comparison to hey, LHC = theoretical mini-black holes -> hey, black holes are really compressed mass = lets use the same theory to compress data! which honestly fit in line with the rest of the out-of-lineness of this show, so I find it odd that only now people would be doing the whole pick-and-choose suspension of disbelief thing.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 02:08 |
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AnacondaHL posted:I think it was a really weak comparison to hey, LHC = theoretical mini-black holes -> hey, black holes are really compressed mass = lets use the same theory to compress data! which honestly fit in line with the rest of the out-of-lineness of this show, so I find it odd that only now people would be doing the whole pick-and-choose suspension of disbelief thing. Its not really a matter of pick and choose but a matter of something that is really noticeable if your in that field. Just like military buffs/plane spotters have a hard time enjoying Top Gun.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 03:12 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Its not really a matter of pick and choose but a matter of something that is really noticeable if your in that field. Just like military buffs/plane spotters have a hard time enjoying Top Gun. What are you some sort of maverick?
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 03:33 |
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Just caught up with all 12 episodes of this. Pacing is really kind of annoying and it seems they took way too long for what is supposed to be the plot's setup, but regardless it's a pretty good watch. Okarin is an amazing character and holds the show together by himself, and now I can't wait to see what happens next. I'm hoping we see some epic time travel shenanigans from Okarin cause of Mayuri's death. Also I know it's anime and in the grand scheme of things you just let these things slide and forgive them cause of the story, but the whole explanation for compressing terabytes of data into 36 bytes made my programmer brain explode out of pure rage for a minute or so.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Pacing is really kind of annoying and it seems they took way too long for what is supposed to be the plot's setup
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