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AnacondaHL posted:This show's OP and ED are the weakest part of this show, and easy to skip (with the additional incentive to get to the Though I don't care for the ED too much either, I think the OP is great; I watch it every time. Normally, it wouldn't be my style, but I just find the singer's voice incredibly pleasant to listen to.
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Zahki posted:I wonder if we're going to get the story on Shining Finger soon as well, from the talk Mayuri and Okabe had, and Moekas reaction when he mentioned memory transfer seems like she's involved somehow. She was taking pics to reassure herself that she really did see what she saw if I remember, so possible she was the first candidate for the memory transfer? I like that a lot; I figure it's likely the case. Also, though it may be stupid for Okabe not to tell anyone about the deep poo poo he's in, at least his silence there is consistent with his overall character. Normally I get frustrated when writers make characters do stupid things for the sake of adding tension to the plot, but in Okabe's case, it makes sense in a way because of his MADDO SAIENTISTO mindset. At least that's how it feels to me. Though the writers are going about the usual ways of adding tension in this show, I have to really hand it to them for doing so in a way that does not make the characters feel arbitrary or inconsistent. In general, I'd say that even though this show isn't doing anything super unique, and it's hitting a lot of the typical tropes, the execution is simply marvelous. It just keeps getting more enjoyable, and Episode 11 is my favorite yet, I think. The next episode cannot come soon enough.
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Onomarchus posted:genius I really enjoyed reading that. Usually I don't like speculating too much about shows I watch, but this is fun. Another note about the tropes this show somewhat adheres to: I don't know what exactly it is about this show, but it has a moe girl who doesn't drive me up a wall, and a tsundere who doesn't make me angry. I view this as an accomplishment. Maybe it's simply because these tropes are auxiliary and aren't really the defining characteristics of the interactions in the show. The sort of harem-style aspects of some of the characters certainly aren't taken that seriously, and it goes to show you that good writers can milk quality stuff out of themes that might seem tired in the hands of a less talented crew. edit: And as Onomarchus alluded to above, Steins;Gate might also be using the stereotypical harem aspects to lull viewers into a sense that they know what's going on, only to surprise and delight them when things turn out to be more complex. Rising-Grandpa fucked around with this message at Jun 16, 2011 around 05:21 |
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SennyYak posted:The gross violation of the Pigeonhole principle really annoyed me, but that's mostly because I'm a programmer. Could you say what it is you're referring to specifically? I'm sure you're right, I just don't remember anything that really jumped out at me besides the ludicrously implausible explanation on how the time leap machine works, but this is anime so I don't care about that. Anyway, I'm really impressed that almost all of our theories were wrong, at least about Moeka. Some of them were really good, but leave it to this show to throw us such a curveball. Okay, maybe some people sort of saw it coming but if you didn't think this episode was shocking and awesome, you're extremely jaded. 
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XboxPants posted:I think he's talking about their explanation for how they were going to compress multiple terabytes down into 36 bytes. Yeah. Oh duh. Well, I always say if scientist and engineer types like many of us are going to be bothered by that kind of stuff, we may as well stop watching television and movies altogether.  Also, a friend pointed out to me that the Steins;Gate/"Take On Me" video posted a page or two back has new significance. It's probably just a coincidence, but "I'll be gone in a day or two." 
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Okay, I really want to get the VN now, as soon as the English translation is finished. It looks to be of really high production value compared to the other VNs I've read. The writing is, of course, great, but the music is also fantastic. Though it's probably been mentioned before in this thread, I'm also really glad they kept the same voice-actors from VN to anime, because the casting is absolutely perfect. Speaking of the English translation, you can keep up with their progress here: http://vn.shourai.net/ The divergence meter as a means of keeping track of progress is cute. 
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After looking up some of the tracks on the VN soundtrack today, I found that Kanako Itou, who does the anime's OP, also sang the opening theme in the VN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwxaGFLnTI I guess maybe that's not surprising at this point, considering how good of an adaptation people have said this show is, but I think it's a nice touch. And there's just something about her voice that is really pleasant.
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Grashlok posted:sometimes anime characters just love to get nude together and shower for no reason Real people do that too... I don't see any problem. Fan service is basically non-existant in this show. The couple of examples XboxPants might be thinking of were (to me) obviously intended to be humorous and not to pander to creepy otaku. Granted, I don't really like the "embarrassing" style of humor that got employed in those scenes, but I think it's far from what we usually mean by "fan-service." Maybe those scenes were more fan-service-y in the VN, I can't say. But if we're talking about the show, it just hasn't "gone there" to any larger extent than merely making a few jokes.
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Onomarchus posted:Are you sure this doesn't possibly spoil a future part of the game/anime we haven't gotten to? Basically, this alternate ending starts when Okabe fails to do something he did in the latest episode of the anime. So there won't be any overlap show. However, the video does contain about 50 minutes of the VN, so it is a fairly significant game spoiler in the sense that it does contain one of the endings. Personally I think it's worth it though, because the video convinced me to get the VN, whereas I wasn't really that interested before I watched it. But no, it's not going to spoil anything in future episodes of the anime. Rising-Grandpa fucked around with this message at Jul 24, 2011 around 06:17 |
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Hmm, I actually feel like 17 is one of the weaker episodes so far. To me it seems like they took something that was probably a lot more fleshed-out in the VN and compressed it a bit too much. I'm not sure how much they could really do though... For the other characters in the series, the show has had time to make us really care about them, but we haven't really seen Ferris in quite a while, and when we did her role wasn't super significant (I'm not sure if mentioning she's in this episode counts as a spoiler, but I tagged it just in case). That said, I still enjoyed it, but I think it is an instance where I wish there were going to be a few more than 24 episodes. Grashlok posted:So, everyone has the Reading Steiner? To me it actually makes a lot more sense this way, i.e. that Okabe may not actually have some kind of super power; rather it could be something that everyone potentially has access to.
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Rondino posted:My feelings on the "other people getting Reading Steiner effects under certain conditions" are mixed. It has its role in the story, but it still feels kinda cheap from a writing standpoint. Maybe... But I don't really think it's a big leap to go from "only Okabe has Reading Steiner" to "everybody can do the same thing under certain circumstances." In fact it makes me a lot less incredulous about the whole thing. Now Okabe doesn't have to have something extremely special about him. He simply needs to be special in a small way (that is, be able to access something everyone has, but more consistently), and occam's razor prefers this. Hopefully I'm making sense. But I'm rationalizing. You're right that there does seem to be something sort of cheap about it, though there really isn't anything the anime crew can do. I'm assuming this is a pretty central point in the VN as well. edited for clarity Rising-Grandpa fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2011 around 22:28 |
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Zahki posted:I went back and watched the first episode recently and made the same observations. Kyouma definitely tells Kurisu he has something to tell her and thats what leads to her meeting him in the first place, no idea why it didn't click when I first watched it, I'm dense I guess. No, I had to check it too. It's easy to forget things like that when there's a week between episodes. In fact, I think the show might be relying on us not quite remembering those details, so when it (probably) brings them up again soon, it will be a major "A-HA!" moment for most of the audience. It's a writing technique that I always love when it's executed well.
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Sindai posted:I feel sorry for Ruka though. Gonna have to take her body dysmorphia back. I'm thinking that Okabe won't have too much trouble convincing her, because she's so submissive and deferential that she won't be able to put her own desires over Mayuri's life. But that just makes it more sad. 
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I thought that was loving great. I don't have the benefit of knowing what they cut out (yet), but the pacing in this one was just so much better than the last episode. It was also strangely hilarious. I didn't expect there to be so much humor in this episode, but again, pacing-wise it makes sense not to have a bunch of heart-wrenching stuff in a row. And this is something that the whole show has done very well: it manages to mix humor into situations that are really quite serious and unfortunate without it feeling terribly out of place. I'm not a skilled enough writer to be able to explain myself how exactly this is done. But there are a lot of very subtle things involved, and there is a very fine line between brilliant success and colossal failure when writing in this way. Most of the time, this show has done an excellent job of staying on the good side of that line. I may also be partial to this episode because Ruka's arc really hits close to home for anyone who has had identity issues (gender or otherwise). Okabe's comment that "It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl" made me smile. "Kyouma" really is a deeper character than it may initially appear.
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Sledeau posted:gently caress. Maybe Suzuha is coming from a future where Kurisu is still alive, and she needs to take Okabe back in time to help her kill Kurisu to ensure the world stays over the 1% barrier. After all, we're pretty sure that was Okabe's scream in ep1 around when Kurisu died. That would be really tragic. The more I think about this, the more I think this has to be the case. But I've thought that a few times before and the show has still managed to surprise me. So hopefully I'll be wrong again?  Edit: Also, I'm glad they've at least made some attempt to reinforce the idea that "Reading Steiner" may just be an upgraded version of something inherent in everyone; i.e. memories across world lines play some role in who we are, and we all have some vague access to them. Otherwise, as we've discussed before, the whole deal with Feyris' route when she remembers the beta world line would seem a lot like cheating. Ultimately I'm still not completely satisfied with the treatment of "Reading Steiner," but there's still one or two episodes left, so we'll see. In any case, this show is continuing to demonstrate that despite its flaws, it has some of the best-written dialogue out there. I think it would have been very, very easy to completely butcher Okabe's and Kurisu's confessions by adhering too closely to the typical tropes. After all, having flat characters is a cheap way to continue tension throughout a show. But I think that scene was handled just about perfectly. Rising-Grandpa fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 01:32 |
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pandaK posted:This was a much better series that dealt with time travel than Madoka was. No. But it was good nonetheless. Though I guess I'm going to be "that guy" and say that I thought the ending was a bit weak... There was really only one moment of tension in it and the rest felt kind of rushed. After how hyped I was upon watching episode 23, I was expecting an ending of Madoka proportions and that's not really what we got. I don't really know how specifically one would improve it, but as a general comment I just wish there had been more tension built up so that the release would have been more satisfying. Really, I think it all comes back to 24 episodes not being enough to do the story full justice. Regardless, I had more fun watching this than pretty much any other TV show period this season.
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Nullsmack posted:One thing I don't get... Okabe faked Christina's death causing former Okabe to start the whole crazy time travel stuff. Then he goes back to the future. What did not-dead Christina do for those 3 weeks? Did Okabe exist in that timeline for those 3 weeks? I was thinking about this too, and I could easily be wrong about this, but I think this is what happens: (not sure if this needs to be spoilered but it is just in case) Former Okabe gets freaked out and accidentally sends a D-mail, which transports him to another world-line like it did in the first episode. Ultimately it doesn't make a ton of sense, and there have been a number of things in this show that I've just had to stop asking questions about. Like many time-travel plots, it takes some liberties with logic. As for what Christina did in those three weeks, I don't know if it really matters.
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Grashlok posted:stuff I get all that, but the thing that doesn't quite make sense to me is that during episode 24 there are two Okabes. One from the future and one who sees Kurisu's "dead" body. The Okabe from the future goes back to the future. What happens to the other Okabe? It just occurred to me that the situation could be resolved by saying that the Okabe we've been following is transported to the new "Steins Gate" world line when he takes the time machine back to the future. But otherwise, there would still be two Okabes running around, which is what was confusing me.
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