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helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


I'm a little late to the party; I've only watched the first episode.

However, crazy time travel poo poo and an unreliable protagonist? I have to keep watching.

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helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Episode 8 talk:

Demicol posted:

Ruka turned into a girl
I love this show.
Me too. Once again, AnacondaHL guessed correctly, "If this story goes "world line" route, then I'm sure he'll be sucked into a line where he is actually a she."-AnacondaHL

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


AnacondaHL posted:

They send texts to the phone connected to the Phone Microwave (name subject to change), it doesn't matter which phone is the source.

This can't be right, since it contradicts the whole "did she have a beeper" issue from a previous episode.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Zahki posted:

Hopefully Okabe manages to use the time machine to go back and get them all out before the SERN hit squad shows up.
This is so not how it's going to go down. I haven't played the game or whatever, but if anything like that were a reasonable course of action, part-time girl and/or Mayushii herself would have done things to stop it this time. I didn't think of it myself, but I'm totally on the side of "Mayushii knew exactly what she was doing when she moved the light-saber to the roof so Okabe wouldn't do anything stupid with it."

Also, I can't believe no one appears to be directly discussing what I thought was the most important part of the episode: the scene, thousands of years in the past, with Mayushii and Okabe. In that scene we learned, among other things:
  • At some point they're going to be able to physically go back to before there were even bodies for them, and may possibly be stranded at the beginning of history.
  • At some point, there's going to be multiple Okabes (right now it seems like there's only been one due to his ability).
  • Mayushii's fate is entwined with Okabe's in some deep way.
I thought that was a bigger deal than Mayushii's death, personally.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Vincent Valentine posted:

Because there's no indication that it actually happened. Did they really travel 70 million years into the past? Is Kyouma just losing his mind? Was he dreaming, talking to himself, experiencing some sort of feedback from Reading Steiner? Maybe it's not 70 million years in the past, it's 70 million in the future and they're standing in a post apocalyptic wasteland and just think it's the past.

Maybe he's just slowly becoming omnipotent!
Yes, it's unclear what exactly was going on in that scene; I still feel it gave me more of a sense of the types of things the show is heading towards than most of the rest of the episode.
(This is all episode 12 spoilers, if people are lost.)

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Xythar posted:

Man I think they missed out on a golden opportunity here to spend 8 episodes showing the same events occurring while Kyouma repeatedly fails to save Mayuri at the end of each episode. Forum posters will defend its artistic merit for years to come!
You think they missed the opportunity? They totally did that and then someone went back in time to stop them.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Tae posted:

This is old, right?



Not to this thread; that's pretty sweet.

Also
"30min after the reunion with Makise…

In the future, something terrible happens with papa Okarin and Kurisu Makise's kids!!"

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Xythar posted:

Also, could the rear end in a top hat at Crunchyroll currently writing the episode descriptions take a loving break? I don't want the first half of the episode spoiled for me before I even watch it and it's practically impossible to avoid reading them.

I feel lucky that as soon I went to the page I thought "oh crap that description probably spoils something" and clicked without looking.

We knew a D-mail had to be sent to save Mayushii, and it eventually was. However, SERN is probably still a threat, and what can they possibly do now?

Also, Is Mayushii merely pointing out the sadness of time travel in this episode and that one a while back because as a character she helps temper/complement Okarin? Or is it the case that she comes from a very far removed future or something because of things like the light-saber scene?

I mean she could be jaded about time travel or innocently not know anything about it until now, and I'm not sure which I'd prefer. In either case she certainly understands the importance of living in the moment.

helopticor fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2011 around 18:31

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


So a friend and I were discussing Reading Steiner and the divergence meter, and how they seem to work.

We've come to the conclusion that it's most likely that rather than "divergence" being some universal value, it (and perhaps the nature of time travel itself) is directly connected to Okabe. If Okabe's life doesn't change significantly, then changes to the timeline get "fixed" as closed time loops and Reading Steiner doesn't need to activate. If Okabe's life does change significantly so that a closed time loop couldn't explain things away, then reading Steiner activates and the divergence number changes.

We're not saying it has to be this way, but this is the most reasonable explanation we can come up with given the evidence so far.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Grashlok posted:

So, everyone has the Reading Steiner?



Oh god this ruins everything, at least all my theories. Now the divergence meter and when Okabe's Reading Steiner does and does not activate doesn't make much sense to me.

Can someone tell me if this bit of stuff from ep17 is the same as the visual novel or not in a PM/e-mail? I mean I guess it probably is, because they'd have to change too much I'd think.

I also agree with:

Rising-Grandpa posted:

Hmm, I actually feel like 17 is one of the weaker episodes so far.
for the same basic reason.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Factor_VIII posted:

[Machoshii] does seem to be rather popular.

I think there over 50 images like that. Why?

Raskolnikov posted:

Why? I blame moe.
Oh, ok.

Ryand-Smith posted:

Its funny, this show is pretty awesome about its presentation of time travel, though I have a theory on how Feris remembers the past. My theory is that Kyoma is serving as a memory of not just HIS own experiences, but his alternate world, which when put in close contact with someone who has ALSO altered time-space, he can serve as a sort of portal/transmission means, sort of like a d-mail or the time leap machine, which explains how Feris remembered the "true" world.
I really hope something like this is true, but maybe it's not. I guess we'll see.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


New episode stuff: I had basically completely forgotten about FB by the time this episode came around. Also, Moeka kills herself in this timeline, but didn't kill herself in the timeline where whats-their-face is a girl? That seems really weird to me.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Grashlok posted:

In this timeline, FB has the IBN 5100 and so they don't need Moeka anymore and just leave her to rot. In the other timelines, I don't think FB actually recovered the IBN, so she's still needed to tie up loose ends.

That makes sense. My memory's just a little hazy. When did FB get the IBN 5100 if undoing these D-mails is supposed to fix the problem?

Is there a good list of episode summaries somewhere that doesn't give the game away?

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Rondino posted:

As far as a spoiler free list of episode summaries, I've seen something like that, but it was in Japanese so it probably wouldn't help much

Could you link it? I think I could get by.

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Grashlok posted:



I found fanart of that face:


Also she finally got her personal fork:

helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


Killbot posted:

So who's the better desperate time leaper, Okarin or Homura?

There's only one answer:

helopticor fucked around with this message at Sep 4, 2011 around 15:39

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helopticor
Sep 21, 2004


blastron posted:

Who's the glasses guy on the far right?

Unnamed protagonist from The Tatami Galaxy, an artsy show that's kinda boring in the beginning but if you can push through (and it's the type of show for you) has an absolutely amazing ending.

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