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Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Dross posted:

I had to break that habit because I'd just end up with a favorites list three pages long of girls I was never actually going to get around to messaging. Now I just do it immediately if I'm gonna do it at all.

Not to derail this thread (since there is the other one), but that's a bit how it is for me now - my favorites list is about 3 pages long - and those that I don't message right away I either message the next moment that I have a chance or they wind up sitting on my list for months until I end up just removing them without messaging

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nbv4
Aug 21, 2002

by Duchess Gummybuns


why was the journal feature removed?

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die


Deceptive Thinker posted:

When I didn't have much time, I'd rate girls that I was interested in highly - and then save them to my favorites (w/out informing) to message later
If I got the "You both rated each other 4-5" email it made that first message a lot easier to send
Now I'm only rating people that I'm not interested in, because if I rate the ones that I am, it sends them an email - the rest I skip and save now

I don't really like this new way, after all, it just does the same thing as winking now, which no one ever uses

Nthing this comment, it was a really bad change and now I just won't be rating people. It's really passive to cause a notification for someone without actually messaging them, and if you're messaging them then why bother?

Noreaus
May 22, 2008


I seem to remember being told that a message will be sent if two users both rate each other 1 star. Is this true, and what is the message? "You hate each other! Date!"?

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007


Noreaus posted:

I seem to remember being told that a message will be sent if two users both rate each other 1 star. Is this true, and what is the message? "You hate each other! Date!"?
That was the case a long time ago, but I don't think it's happened for years.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



nbv4 posted:

why was the journal feature removed?

we did a bunch of observations and found that the journals feature was actually distracting/ discouraging users from messaging each other about dates, which is what the site is for. users who have journals and use them can still see journals. they're only hidden for users who had not previously had one (much like the forums on okc).

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010
I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Having found the forums, I'd suggest that rather than hiding them for everyone that isn't already in there, you ban everyone that is.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.


So I'm looking at this user's profile. She seems awfully nice (99% match). She was given an award on Jun 26, but when I click on the name of the awarding user, I get "Sorry, we don’t have anyone by that name!" Does that mean they deleted their account recently, or they're blocking me, or I have Internet Rabies and OKCupid is trying to quarantine me?

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



prefect posted:

So I'm looking at this user's profile. She seems awfully nice (99% match). She was given an award on Jun 26, but when I click on the name of the awarding user, I get "Sorry, we don’t have anyone by that name!" Does that mean they deleted their account recently, or they're blocking me, or I have Internet Rabies and OKCupid is trying to quarantine me?

could be any of the following:
- the user deleted their account
- the user disabled their account
- the user's account was deleted by us
- the user hid their account from straight users (if you are a straight user)

Blocking/ Hiding doesn't prevent you from being able to view their profile, only from you being able to see them in Match Search/ Quiver/ Quickmatch, and from messaging/IM if they blocked you.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.


aliceamadee posted:

could be any of the following:
- the user deleted their account
- the user disabled their account
- the user's account was deleted by us
- the user hid their account from straight users (if you are a straight user)

Blocking/ Hiding doesn't prevent you from being able to view their profile, only from you being able to see them in Match Search/ Quiver/ Quickmatch, and from messaging/IM if they blocked you.

If it's the "hiding from straights" thing, that's a little depressing. I was just curious about her real-life friend; it wasn't a romantic or stalking thing.

Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys

Are there any plans to integrate the "broadcast" type features from the mobile app into the website?

KarmaCandy
Jan 14, 2006


If I do a search, it may say "No has contacted this user in a week - go for it" - what does this mean? Has he/she received absolutely no emails? Is it just first contact emails? Are IMs included?

However, when I go to their actual page, this same person could have "replies often" on their actual account - is this because the profile "replies often" is based on the lifetime of the account, while the search page's "replies often/replies selectively/hasn't been contacted" is weekly?

I've also noticed on my own page that even if I log out, I'm recorded as being online still for about an hour. Am I signing off incorrectly? Can it just not be done in real time?

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

It would be neat if I could see stats on how people answer the questions I've created. Maybe also be able to see how specific matches have answered my questions (if they made the answers public). Also, if I could list the questions I've created or other people have created.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



KarmaCandy posted:

If I do a search, it may say "No has contacted this user in a week - go for it" - what does this mean? Has he/she received absolutely no emails? Is it just first contact emails? Are IMs included?

However, when I go to their actual page, this same person could have "replies often" on their actual account - is this because the profile "replies often" is based on the lifetime of the account, while the search page's "replies often/replies selectively/hasn't been contacted" is weekly?

I've also noticed on my own page that even if I log out, I'm recorded as being online still for about an hour. Am I signing off incorrectly? Can it just not be done in real time?

1) It's just referring to messages, not to IMs. I believe it only counts first contact messages, not replies. The reply rate doesn't have to do with when you get messages, just if you reply to them, so if the user had replied to lots of messages before they stopped getting them, they'd still be Replies Often.

2) this is just how the database works, there's nothing you can do about it.

CPColin posted:

It would be neat if I could see stats on how people answer the questions I've created. Maybe also be able to see how specific matches have answered my questions (if they made the answers public). Also, if I could list the questions I've created or other people have created.

This has been suggested a bunch before and it probably won't happen because there are lots of weirdos who would make "have you ever had gerbil sex" questions and stuff JUST to find the users who would answer that question.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

aliceamadee posted:

This has been suggested a bunch before and it probably won't happen because there are lots of weirdos who would make "have you ever had gerbil sex" questions and stuff JUST to find the users who would answer that question.

It would be fun to see stats on a question after you answer it, even if it was anonymized. ("27% of people chose this answer...")

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

aliceamadee posted:

This has been suggested a bunch before and it probably won't happen because there are lots of weirdos who would make "have you ever had gerbil sex" questions and stuff JUST to find the users who would answer that question.

I suppose I could accomplish the same thing by making the gerbil sex question the only one I put "Mandatory" for, then sorting by "Questions I care about," but it'd be nice to have an official way to do it.

But mostly, I was looking for a way to list the questions I've written and show what percentage of people gave each answer, just for curiosity's sake.

KarmaCandy
Jan 14, 2006


aliceamadee posted:

1) It's just referring to messages, not to IMs. I believe it only counts first contact messages, not replies. The reply rate doesn't have to do with when you get messages, just if you reply to them, so if the user had replied to lots of messages before they stopped getting them, they'd still be Replies Often.

Sorry, just want to make sure I understand:

Ah so if the guy is the one initiating all the contact and the girls are just replying back - it would still say he hasn't been contacted?

In the search results some profiles say "No one has been contacted him this week-contact him," others say "Replies often" or "Replies selectively" in search results. On the profile, "He hasn't been contacted this week-contact him" isn't an option. Is it just once you're contacted once, the "no one has contacted him this week" is replaced with the "replies often/selectively/etc" from your profile? I was just curious if there's a difference in timing because one of the options in the search results specifically mentions a weekly timeframe.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



sounds like you have it right. the notice in search results kicks in if no one has initiated contact with you in a week. Once you're contacted the timer resets.

NESguerilla
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk Clunk Clunk clunk


It kind of sucks that the little recommendation bar randomizes when you click on a profile then click the back button. 90% of the people I end up wanting to look st are in that bar and sometimes there is two at the same time. I either have to copy/paste or accept that one will get lost in the abyss. Couldn't it just make a new batch if I refresh the page or hit the home button?

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


NESguerilla posted:

It kind of sucks that the little recommendation bar randomizes when you click on a profile then click the back button. 90% of the people I end up wanting to look st are in that bar and sometimes there is two at the same time. I either have to copy/paste or accept that one will get lost in the abyss. Couldn't it just make a new batch if I refresh the page or hit the home button?

Open them in new tabs.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

I mostly keep OkCupid to my iPhone because a lot of the web stuff (look who's browsing your profile! random IMs!) creeps me the hell out but messages on my phone don't for some reason. Anyway, I'm not quite sure what happened but you guys updated the app and now I have this Locals thing which follows my GPS around along with many others so we can go hook up more instantly if we want to. Cool!

Except I want to turn it off for now. I'm a busy person and I'm getting bugged a lot with it. I went into preferences and tried to turn it off, but it's still bothering me. I know it's in beta and all, but something this intrusive really needs to be turn on/offable.

Also, I have it set to 'auto-offline,' which I assume means it'll show me as offline when I close the app, but...it must not because, you know. Locals messages.

Mausi
Apr 11, 2006



Locals also needs to be able to recognise that I'm in a major city so someone a couple of miles away isn't 'local', they're 40mins by train.

And yeah, being able to shut the drat thing off easily would be good.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



You can turn locals off by going to settings, locals options, toggle off.

Locals stays off if you have auto offline on if you don't use your phone and/or don't move between cell towers. If you do pull your phone out a lot or drive around a lot it will update your location.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

When I'm supposed to meet a girl for a beer, but she goes on vacation for two weeks, then comes back and deletes her profile, OKC should send me a teddy bear to cheer me up.

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


CPColin posted:

When I'm supposed to meet a girl for a beer, but she goes on vacation for two weeks, then comes back and deletes her profile, OKC should send me a teddy bear to cheer me up.

And then a girl finally does come over and notices the pile of identical teddy bears and wonders what the gently caress.

Robo-Pope
Feb 28, 2007

It has big taste.


Dross posted:

And then a girl finally does come over and notices the pile of identical teddy bears and wonders what the gently caress.

They should make a teddy bear for that too!

iframe
Jan 1, 2006
POTATOES!

I think I understand this, but I just want to check. Is the match percentage that I'm shown for somebody the post-multiplication/square root one or the raw percentage? And if it's the adjusted one, does that mean the people I'm finding are seeing the same percentage?

I guess I'm just surprised that I'm getting lots of super high matches around me when I've tried to narrow it down by being really picky with my answers.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006



Hey, this is a cool thread. I've met a lot of interesting people I never want to see again through OKC, and a few that I actually like as well. Good site.

Anyway, I've only read Alice's posts so I'm sorry if this is a repeat question answered by someone else, but is it possible to find out the reason why someone's account got removed? I was writing someone and we were planning to go see a movie as per the last friday of contact, she would get back to me over the weekend to finalize plans and whatnot. Well, the weekend passed and I got no message, so I figured I'd wait until tuesday before asking what's up to not appear pushy. Come tuesday I go to send her a message and find that her profile no longer exists.

Now, obviously I'm not expecting it to be possible to find out all the circumstances of her account removal, that'd probably be unsuitable for a bunch of reasons. I'm basically just wondering if she deleted her account herself or if OKC deleted it for some reason. I sent the question to support but since I'm not A-list I got no response.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



iframe posted:

I think I understand this, but I just want to check. Is the match percentage that I'm shown for somebody the post-multiplication/square root one or the raw percentage? And if it's the adjusted one, does that mean the people I'm finding are seeing the same percentage?

I guess I'm just surprised that I'm getting lots of super high matches around me when I've tried to narrow it down by being really picky with my answers.

The Match % you see is specific only to you. You could have a 99% match with someone, but they'd see an 89% match with you. It's because Match % is determined by 1) how you answer, 2) how you'd like your match to answer, 3) your importance level. You could answer how they like, but they could answer not how you want. Or you could say it's super important, and they could say it's irrelevant. Depending on how many of those three things match up depends on how much of the % it goes towards.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



Woebin posted:

Hey, this is a cool thread. I've met a lot of interesting people I never want to see again through OKC, and a few that I actually like as well. Good site.

Anyway, I've only read Alice's posts so I'm sorry if this is a repeat question answered by someone else, but is it possible to find out the reason why someone's account got removed? I was writing someone and we were planning to go see a movie as per the last friday of contact, she would get back to me over the weekend to finalize plans and whatnot. Well, the weekend passed and I got no message, so I figured I'd wait until tuesday before asking what's up to not appear pushy. Come tuesday I go to send her a message and find that her profile no longer exists.

Now, obviously I'm not expecting it to be possible to find out all the circumstances of her account removal, that'd probably be unsuitable for a bunch of reasons. I'm basically just wondering if she deleted her account herself or if OKC deleted it for some reason. I sent the question to support but since I'm not A-list I got no response.

Nope, sorry. We don't disclose any information about how/ when/ why someone's profile is closed. The only exception is if someone emails us and says that they think someone is a scammer but aren't sure-- if we determine the person is, we'll usually respond and let them know, so they don't continue communication through email afterwards.

The bottom line is that if someone's profile is removed from OkC in the middle of planning a date, you don't want to continue anyway. either:
1) she closed her account and doesn't want to hear from people on okc any more
or
2) we closed it, in which case she's either a fake, a scammer, an abusive/ harassing user, or underage.

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


Woebin posted:

Hey, this is a cool thread. I've met a lot of interesting people I never want to see again through OKC, and a few that I actually like as well. Good site.

Anyway, I've only read Alice's posts so I'm sorry if this is a repeat question answered by someone else, but is it possible to find out the reason why someone's account got removed? I was writing someone and we were planning to go see a movie as per the last friday of contact, she would get back to me over the weekend to finalize plans and whatnot. Well, the weekend passed and I got no message, so I figured I'd wait until tuesday before asking what's up to not appear pushy. Come tuesday I go to send her a message and find that her profile no longer exists.

Now, obviously I'm not expecting it to be possible to find out all the circumstances of her account removal, that'd probably be unsuitable for a bunch of reasons. I'm basically just wondering if she deleted her account herself or if OKC deleted it for some reason. I sent the question to support but since I'm not A-list I got no response.

Look four posts up dude, that poo poo happens all the time.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006



aliceamadee posted:

Nope, sorry. We don't disclose any information about how/ when/ why someone's profile is closed. The only exception is if someone emails us and says that they think someone is a scammer but aren't sure-- if we determine the person is, we'll usually respond and let them know, so they don't continue communication through email afterwards.

The bottom line is that if someone's profile is removed from OkC in the middle of planning a date, you don't want to continue anyway. either:
1) she closed her account and doesn't want to hear from people on okc any more
or
2) we closed it, in which case she's either a fake, a scammer, an abusive/ harassing user, or underage.
Fair enough. I wasn't really hoping to salvage it somehow, I'm just generally curious about this stuff and it seemed a bit odd.

Dross posted:

Look four posts up dude, that poo poo happens all the time.
Yeah, I guess I just don't understand the ways of internet people.

squeakygeek
Oct 27, 2005


aliceamadee posted:

The Match % you see is specific only to you. You could have a 99% match with someone, but they'd see an 89% match with you. It's because Match % is determined by 1) how you answer, 2) how you'd like your match to answer, 3) your importance level. You could answer how they like, but they could answer not how you want. Or you could say it's super important, and they could say it's irrelevant. Depending on how many of those three things match up depends on how much of the % it goes towards.

What is the difference between match, friend, and enemy?

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


squeakygeek posted:

What is the difference between match, friend, and enemy?

As I understand it (feel free to correct me Alice)

Match: Percentage of answers they picked that you prefer
Friend: Percentage of answers on which you agree, regardless of answer preference
Enemy: Percentage of "unacceptable" answers

All weighted by assigned importance.

Plus_Infinity
Apr 12, 2011



yep, that's right! Enemy & Match both take into consideration your answer, their answer, what you want each other to answer, and importance level. Friend just takes into account if you answered the same or not.

squeakygeek
Oct 27, 2005


aliceamadee posted:

yep, that's right! Enemy & Match both take into consideration your answer, their answer, what you want each other to answer, and importance level. Friend just takes into account if you answered the same or not.

So two people would have different match and enemy but the same friend?

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

aliceamadee posted:

You can turn locals off by going to settings, locals options, toggle off.

Locals stays off if you have auto offline on if you don't use your phone and/or don't move between cell towers. If you do pull your phone out a lot or drive around a lot it will update your location.

Yeah, see, this is the confusing part. As per my post, I do both of those things and it still seems to stay on (which is to say I think it might be buggy so this is input for your beta). But is what you're saying that, even if I have auto-offline toggled and locals turned off, it'll update my location if I use my phone at all for anything?

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

aliceamadee posted:

yep, that's right! Enemy & Match both take into consideration your answer, their answer, what you want each other to answer, and importance level. Friend just takes into account if you answered the same or not.

Which explains why I usually have a decent friend match with most people since I'm a big "irrelevant" person.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008


I live in NYC and the fact that "within 25 miles" is the smallest possible setting sort of sucks here. Someone 25 miles away from me could very well be two hours away from me by train, if, say, I live in Queens and they live in New Jersey. Why can't there be a more geographically restrictive setting?

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Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys

It's far from perfect or elegant, and there's absolutely no reason why they can't put a box for you to type this in, but if you manually find and change the number 25 in the search query url bar you can search for people within any number of miles you like.

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