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After resisting the temptation to shout gently caress YOU at anyone with something remotely bad to say about this upcoming title and then calming down a little, I am now ready to post. Sort of. I play a million, billion games and have done since I was 4. that's 24 years of games. Lots of games. All the time. I haven't fallen in love with any other videogame series as hard as I have with Hitman, by a long, long way. I'm not saying it's the best game ever (it's a very, very good one, mind) but I am super hotgay for this drat series. If they include proper ragdoll physics and keep the push action, I will explode with joy. If they add other stuff, like levels and stuff, I might asphyxiate. For those asking, I would say start with Contracts and then Blood Money. Contracts isn't as solid as Blood Money, but the missions are dark as gently caress and I love them for it. Blood Money goes much more along the lines of black humour. There's nothing like sneaking up on your victim in his rich suburban home, dressed as a clown, only to break the back of his skull with a well placed hammer strike. That's Blood Money, the less dark one, by the way. Also, for anyone casting doubts over whether IO will dumb it down or whatever, I really wouldn't even bother entertaining the idea. They know their IP and they know the fans are rabid for it (see: me and ridiculousness) so the format will simply be iterated and improved. What makes the series unique for me is that the freedoms we usually associate with an "open world" game tend to be with wanting to wander off in any direction. They nailed the idea that the freedom of choice can come from choosing how to eliminate your target, give you a wealth of variety. Here's your target, here are your conditions, here are the tools, go do it. In no other game have I been able to dress up as Santa Claus and throw a kitchen knife off a second floor balcony into the balls of a man below sat in a large jacuzzi with two bikini models. And be rewarded for it. loving HITMAN!
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Perestroika posted:I'm not certain if AC:Bs free-for-all gamemode would work well with the abundance of guns and other gadgets. Though I think if you had a gamemode where all the players need to assassinate the same NPC-target and it's a race who can manage to make the kill first you may end up with something interesting. That sounds awesome! My favorite Hitman song (Hitman 2 - Japanese Mansion): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHsX6DUsU8o Because when you've just killed the main target and you're walking back down the castle with the silenced pistol and the track starts playing like at 0:28, you feel like a loving badass. Vegas was loving awesome too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxtLXPIazmg EtOH fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2011 around 12:33 |
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This is great news, I just hope someone at the ICA hires 47 to assassinate Kane and Lynch. With all the dead civilians out there someone must have had a rich relative. The earliest announcements for Blood Money hinted at it being "open world" more along the lines of GTA rather than like Deus Ex and Hitman series. Hopefully they don't go anywhere near that route with this one as Blood Money was basically perfect.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 13:39 |
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I've always loved the speed runs in Blood Money and how absurd they can get. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eeh...feature=related Ok how about faster? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WX5...feature=related
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 13:47 |
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WebDog posted:Ok how about faster? This is the best thing I've ever seen. 
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 13:51 |
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Wait, you can shoot a locked door open in Blood Money? Does the game ever tell you this? I've played the hell out of that game and never knew.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:11 |
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I would LOVE some bonus levels that were remakes of old levels. More to the point, I want the Meat King's party back. I loved that level and would play it constantly.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:30 |
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I wonder if they will still use the same engine. Glacier was cool 
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:31 |
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Gadzuko posted:Wait, you can shoot a locked door open in Blood Money? Does the game ever tell you this? I've played the hell out of that game and never knew. I don't think so. I never even realized you could shoot people through doors.
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WebDog posted:Ok how about faster? That is loving hilarious. I can just imagine it from the targets' points of view. "Now 47, this is a very high profile and difficult job. Alvaro will be singing on st-" "Mmhm, sure, yeah." *BOOM BOOM* "...oh."
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:41 |
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Lasher posted:More to the point, I want the Meat King's party back. I loved that level and would play it constantly. That level caused me to be seriously creeped out whenever I hear Put Your Head On My Shoulder by Paul Anka. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2011 around 14:52 |
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Gadzuko posted:Wait, you can shoot a locked door open in Blood Money? Does the game ever tell you this? I've played the hell out of that game and never knew. It tells you that during the tutorial mission, when you pick up the shotgun.
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The thing I loved most about Hitman was how if a hit went south and something went wrong, you could improvise and still pull it off. I remember Hitman 2 threw you a couple of curveballs, like giving you a sniper rifle loaded with blanks and sending other bald hitmen after you, and being able to cope with them made it so much more satisfying.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:53 |
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Lasher posted:More to the point, I want the Meat King's party back. I loved that level and would play it constantly. That was a great level. I was trying to go for silent assassin and everything went sideways while trying to kill the opium smoking guy, so I just killed every living soul in the entire level. I figured they were celebrating a guy getting free from killing a girl, so they pretty much deserved it anyway.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 14:57 |
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Did anyone actually like the boat level from Blood Money?
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:06 |
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AFewBricksShy posted:That was a great level. I was trying to go for silent assassin and everything went sideways while trying to kill the opium smoking guy, so I just killed every living soul in the entire level. I figured they were celebrating a guy getting free from killing a girl, so they pretty much deserved it anyway. He eventually goes to the toilet where you can sedate his guard then cut his throat as he's taking a piss. I liked that level too.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:12 |
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I remember when Blood Money was announced and they showed a trailer a huge part of it was 47 just gunning down everyone with a submachine gun. People were freaking out about it because they thought Blood Money was gonna play like Duke Nukem or something. I've been trying to find that trailer and I can't, anyone know what I'm talking about?
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:13 |
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After going through the trouble of an all Silent Assassin run in Blood Money the best feeling in the world was going through it again as a gun blazing maniac. I hope whatever the new game is it manages to capture these two extremes.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:16 |
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Houdini posted:Did anyone actually like the boat level from Blood Money? Boat level? Ah you mean that drat steamship where you had to steal a cabin boy's outfit in order to reach the target. I didn't like that level or the hick wedding level. On the higher difficulties I found a way to sneak up to the VIP area and then silently gun down the targets but it was extremely difficult to just get the clothes you needed. The odd aspect of the hitman series is that you are an extremely conspicuous tall, bald white dude. He should also be supplied with wigs and fake mustaches/beards.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:22 |
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Blood Money is one of my top games overall. Really, Absolution only needs to be Blood Money with improved graphics and different levels and targets. They don't need to change anything else. I don't need new weapons or anything, I always do silent assassin anyway
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:23 |
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:I've been trying to find that trailer and I can't, anyone know what I'm talking about? The most I can remember is a bit from this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCzx3Wxw6M8 Or this trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeztK_ikC9g DropsySufferer posted:The hick wedding level. 47 gets to show his moves in that level! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp3IaxaGrQ WebDog fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2011 around 15:35 |
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Houdini posted:Did anyone actually like the boat level from Blood Money? I loved how the knife can be thrown at their heads.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:42 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSU43H1LYGs I always liked this trailer the most because it makes it look like some rad seventies/eighties revenge movie or something. I loved the levels that were homages to great assassination movies/scenes like the La Femme Nikita/party level in Hitman 2 and the Godfather 3/opera house in Blood Money. I wonder if what stuff they'll be inspired by this time.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 15:46 |
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I only played Hitman 2, it was loving awesome. Is Blood Money actually that much better or is that just the first game where a whole lot of people bought it and got into the series? I watched my friend play through a couple levels of it years ago, it didn't look any different from the second one
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Pees With Boner posted:I only played Hitman 2, it was loving awesome. Is Blood Money actually that much better Yes. I loved Hitman 2, but Blood Money is a LOT more polished and has great level design. It's everything you loved about Hitman 2, polished up and done better, plus more.
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Pees With Boner posted:I only played Hitman 2, it was loving awesome. Is Blood Money actually that much better or is that just the first game where a whole lot of people bought it and got into the series? I watched my friend play through a couple levels of it years ago, it didn't look any different from the second one It's not that it's completely different so much as that each successive Hitman game makes a ton of small refinements to the engine/controls/details/level design. The main thing with Blood Money is that none of the levels have time limits (until you initiate stuff) and it's usually much easier to get a disguise near the beginning of each. So you have much more freedom to walk around and take your time planning everything out and experimenting. The levels are more realistic too as you're not in situations like in Hitman 2 with the Japanese snow fortress level. A level that was total bullshit because you could be disguised as the guards, which involves wearing their uniform and a face mask, in the middle of a snowstorm, and yet snipers a mile away would somehow still spot you. Then once you got closer the truck patrols would sometimes glitch and run over their own guards, which would magically make everyone aware that you were there. I also think they balanced how the NPCs respond your actions perfectly in Blood Money. In Hitman 2 I felt like sometimes guys would open fire on me almost out of nowhere, and that Contracts was at the opposite extreme where you could often run right up to armed guards and they wouldn't even notice you. Basically if you like Hitman 2 you'll like Blood Money a lot, it's the same stuff but better.
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Gadzuko posted:Wait, you can shoot a locked door open in Blood Money? Does the game ever tell you this? I've played the hell out of that game and never knew. You obviously haven't gone on enough rampages. Pees With Boner posted:I only played Hitman 2, it was loving awesome. Is Blood Money actually that much better or is that just the first game where a whole lot of people bought it and got into the series? I watched my friend play through a couple levels of it years ago, it didn't look any different from the second one Contracts and Blood Money are both better games than Silent Assassin. The only things I miss about Silent Assassin are some of the levels. Contracts may be hard to find, but if you get Blood Money I think you'll enjoy it and appreciate what they've done to improve the gameplay. LLCoolJD fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2011 around 16:21 |
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Goddammit, you guys have totally made me order Blood Money for 360. Not that that's a bad thing, though. I just wasn't planning on buying any more games for a while. I could never, ever, EVER co-ordinate myself well enough to pull off a Silent Assassin rank. The one thing I would really enjoy in the next game would perhaps be a 'Recon Mode' or something. Let me explain... You know how you go into the level for the first time and absolutely suck, but each time after that, you get to know the lay of the land, so to speak? I find that kind of unrealistic. Some of these things you wouldn't have any idea where they are unless you had been there before, sometimes many times over. I would really like an option to 'visit' the level beforehand, maybe as a side-character helping 47/the Agency, and that person would do recon for 47. No weapons, nothing like that, but you'd have the ability to scope out everything beforehand. Obviously, this wouldn't be possibly with every level, but some of the more public ones could definitely use this sort of thing. EDIT: And maybe there would be a 'classic' and 'advanced' mode to play in. Classic would be the same as all the previous Hitman games, whereas advanced would require you to go to a location and scout it out/make in-game notes/take pictures, and perhaps even set up some things for 47, like weapon drops, suits, tools, etc. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2011 around 16:19 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:
One of my favorite levels in Hitman 2 is the skyscraper in Malaysia towards the end because you can just walk up to the front desk and ask about the basement access/etc.
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DropsySufferer posted:Boat level? Ah you mean that drat steamship where you had to steal a cabin boy's outfit in order to reach the target. I didn't like that level or the hick wedding level. On the higher difficulties I found a way to sneak up to the VIP area and then silently gun down the targets but it was extremely difficult to just get the clothes you needed.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 16:22 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I would really like an option to 'visit' the level beforehand, maybe as a side-character helping 47/the Agency, and that person would do recon for 47. No weapons, nothing like that, but you'd have the ability to scope out everything beforehand. Well in most levels you are generally free to wander around and do so, nabbing an appropriate disguise helps. Half the fun is working out the lay of the land, it's daunting at first. The fun thing is this game has stacks of re-playability as there's all sorts of amusing ways you can interact with targets plus you unlock and upgrade weapons throughout allowing for more elaborate attempts. Silent Assassinations are really rewarding as a result, they're meant to be gained as a result of replays, unless you're some covert ops bloke who can read irrational AI.
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Hitman 2 sucks because half of the missions are in military bases and your sneak speed is so loving slow. Plus enemies are loving paranoid as gently caress. Plus you have that hidden valley level with all the trucks and ninjas, arrrgh gently caress that game. Hitman Contracts is pretty good except that a lot of the missions pretty much demand that you drop all of your weapons since you will get searched soon after. Not to mention that some missions had solutions that you would be a idiot NOT to use them. There is no point to not use the disguise of one of your targets in the Bjararov bomb.
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I'm hoping for a "movie" science lab, like in Diamonds are Forever or Hollow Man. I want to release chimps from their cages, dump victims in autoclaves, and leave explosives in centrifuges. These Hitman games definitely make me feel like a closet sociopath.
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Which game had the level with that long-ish, split-level resort where your target is spending time at because of stress? (I could have this totally wrong, it's been a while). You have to steal a CCTV tape, and at one point, your victim goes to lift weights, and you can kill him there. Everyone's wearing a bathrobe. I want to say Blood Money, but I can't recall. Anyway, I loved it.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 16:34 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Which game had the level with that long-ish, split-level resort where your target is spending time because of stress? (I could have this totally wrong, it's been a while). You have to steal a CCTV tape, and at one point, your victim goes to lift weights, and you can kill him there. Blood Money, around level three or so. I thought it was one of the tougher levels for a rampage. Good level design, though.
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Blood Money. And yeah, that level owns. My favourite is still the suburb though. 420 shoot clowns erryday
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Which game had the level with that long-ish, split-level resort where your target is spending time because of stress? (I could have this totally wrong, it's been a while). You have to steal a CCTV tape, and at one point, your victim goes to lift weights, and you can kill him there. Blood Money, in the mission Flatline. I think its a Sanitorium.
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I stopped playing Blood Money at the level with everyone dressed up as birds.
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| # ? Apr 28, 2011 16:41 |
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Totally stoked for a new hitman game it was inevitable there was going to be another one, you don't drop a series that drat awesome. I don't think there was a single level in BM which I didn't love, the operahouse, the mardi gras, the hick wedding, the rehab clinic, the suburbs, the country manor every drat one is amazing. I never did find out what good the air rifle in the tree house was in the suburbs level, I managed to silent assassin it, but could never figure out what good that treehouse was. The fact that every level had mutliple ways for you to get your marks and if all else failed you could just take out every single mother in the area. the fully upgraded m4 was so drat good, laser sight, 4x scope, drum mag, foregrip, silencer... time to go kill everyone  blackguy32 posted:Blood Money, in the mission Flatline. I think its a Sanitorium. rehab clinic, you had two marks, and you had to get someone out aswell. You could kill one mark by strangling him with the weights while he was working out, or posion his secret stash or liquor, or mine the chandlier in the room where he kept his liquor. The other mark, you could dress as a shrink and murder him on the couch, or rig his gas cooker in his room to blow him up when he decided to cook something. I'm sure I've forgotten some of the ways to kill the marks, but there was so drat many
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If you steal tranquilizer from the nearby vet you can shoot the dog from the tree house and use the entrance it guarded.
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