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Jefferoo
Jun 23, 2008
PLEASE GO AWAY JEFFEROO. YOU ARE NOT AN INTELLECTUAL SAVIOR, YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER IN GAMES(AND RAPIDLY GOING DEAF!) AND A BLIGHT UPON HUMANITY.


Swartz posted:

I'm currently screwing around with shaders I gave Blood Money from KL:2 as well as trying to enable Sparse Grid Supersampling AA with Nvidia Inspector, and then I'm going to see if I can figure out how to enable SSAO.

If I get good results I'll update this post.

Oh poo poo, what? That sounds loving insane. Anything close to the video-like effects from K&L2 would make Blood Money loving art. Would this be supported by ATI cards at all? You mentioned Nvidia.

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Slantedfloors
Apr 28, 2008

Wait, What?


Jefferoo posted:

I think the proper answer is Charles Bronson in Death Wish 3 or 4, but alas.
Thanks jerk, now I'll be disappointed if Absolution doesn't let me walk around using a belt-fed machine gun like an SMG.

Jefferoo
Jun 23, 2008
PLEASE GO AWAY JEFFEROO. YOU ARE NOT AN INTELLECTUAL SAVIOR, YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER IN GAMES(AND RAPIDLY GOING DEAF!) AND A BLIGHT UPON HUMANITY.


Slantedfloors posted:

Thanks jerk, now I'll be disappointed if Absolution doesn't let me walk around using a belt-fed machine gun like an SMG.

Now we know why they re-cast Diana!

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


Are you loving kidding me? You can poison his coke?

Alternatively you can always push the son down the stairs where the yard leads to the cellar the guard on the upper floor very rarely notices it.

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009


Lasher posted:

Are you loving kidding me? You can poison his coke?

I have never been able to do that. No matter how often I try it doesn't appear as a viable target for the syringe.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


OH well that's a bit of a relief. I always felt it was a bit sloppy to blow up the winch to drop the barrels on him and shoving him down the stairs, whilst great, seems less viable as a hitman method than poisoning coke.

I was also disappointed to find that the hammer cannot be used to assassinate people who are sitting down. I was going for a gimmick run.

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me


You know what's a pain in the rear end? When you detonate a bomb to drop a thing on a guy and then he runs out the way. Why do they do this? Is it because a body got found?

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



Woohoo posted:

Contracts > Blood Money.

Know why? Atmosphere. I really loved that earlier Hitman games put you against human scum... that are very definition of scum.
You weren't killing only crazy Chinese mafiosos, but people that really stood out from humankind as symbol of evil. Like that meathouse party with dead girl hanging from a meathook? And those crazy people at party? I wanted to kill every one of them. Or crazy English chaps in a manor and a boy kept captured in stables?

The party goers were bad?

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009


Lasher posted:

OH well that's a bit of a relief. I always felt it was a bit sloppy to blow up the winch to drop the barrels on him and shoving him down the stairs, whilst great, seems less viable as a hitman method than poisoning coke.

I was also disappointed to find that the hammer cannot be used to assassinate people who are sitting down. I was going for a gimmick run.

The only way I can reliably deal with that guy is knocking him out when he's done a line and out of view of the nearby guard, but before he goes out the door, and then just shooting or poisoning the body before shoving it in the nearby box. Whenever I try the winch thing I invariably kill the guard patrolling next to it and then I can't get Silent Assassin.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


Capn Beeb posted:

The party goers were bad?

If being into BDSM and drugs is bad then I guess I'd better watch out for clowns with fibre wire.

Rascar
May 3, 2005
STUPID
DICK


Capn Beeb posted:

The party goers were bad?

They are all dirty pervs and Mr. 47 has been sent to cleanse them of their wicked ways. By hanging their bodies on meat hooks.

Slantedfloors
Apr 28, 2008

Wait, What?


Capn Beeb posted:

The party goers were bad?
Well, they went to a getting-out-of-jail party for a serial killer held in an opium den. They certainly weren't good.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


Rascar posted:

They are all dirty pervs and Mr. 47 has been sent to cleanse them of their wicked ways. By hanging their bodies on meat hooks.

Has anyone done an LP that just shows off all the things you can do in these games? On youtube it's all straight up playthroughs or speedruns and whilst interesting I'd love to see someone who knows the game inside and out just showing off all the little things.

Baby Cakes
Nov 3, 2005

I AM BECOME DEATH


Lasher posted:

I was also disappointed to find that the hammer cannot be used to assassinate people who are sitting down. I was going for a gimmick run.

Achievement Unlocked: Hammer Time

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Dr Snofeld posted:

Whenever I try the winch thing I invariably kill the guard patrolling next to it and then I can't get Silent Assassin.

Usually the guard starts patrolling pretty early on and you can usually get him walking around downstairs while Delgado is beneath the palette. Whenever I get close to the guard for the first time he always turns to face me then starts patrolling.

I can't get Silent Assassin for some reason even if I do the accident method like that, because the game finds his body even by accident and somehow that turns my rating into Specialist. I just finished a round of it on Normal where I killed the Young Delgado with the palette and the old one by shoving him over the ledge and it gave me Specialist with "1 body found"

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

I'm trying to organize a prison break.

I hope that you've had enough to drink. It's going to take courage.


Lasher posted:

Has anyone done an LP that just shows off all the things you can do in these games? On youtube it's all straight up playthroughs or speedruns and whilst interesting I'd love to see someone who knows the game inside and out just showing off all the little things.

That's pretty much what this guy does. His videos are rather good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Bzg99DE1w

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy


Did anyone else put a landmine in the briefcase in Bloodmoney in the casino level?

I didn't realize that they were going to take it. It exploded on the 8th floor killing the scientist. (I never even saw him) I ended up having to just strangle the Arab dude and running for it since it doesn't let you leave that area at all.

Tony Bologna
Sep 21, 2007



So is there anything notable in Death of the Mississippi that would make it worth playing? I've played it before, but I think I just gunned everyone down to get through it.

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009


Tony Bologna posted:

So is there anything notable in Death of the Mississippi that would make it worth playing? I've played it before, but I think I just gunned everyone down to get through it.

Well, there's the zombie easter egg, but that would mean MORE gunning down everyone.

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the cow


Ok, cheating in Blood Money is great. Turn on invisibility and infinite ammo and do A New Vintage. Instead of poisoning everyone's wine, I instead sedated it all. Now people will drink their wine, pass out and cause everyone to flip their poo poo until someone wakes up and then continue on. It's bizarrely hilarious to see these guys pass out after drinking the same drink that someone else just passed out from. A New Vintage is becoming my playground.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


csidle posted:

That's pretty much what this guy does. His videos are rather good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Bzg99DE1w

Hah, he has the same problems I had on Curtains Down. Thanks for the link.

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



So does anybody have a reliable way to use cheats with the Steam version? It came up earlier in the thread but nobody really answered. I've used three different trainers and none of them work at all, and there was a "patcher" or something but it looked pretty fishy.

Kyphie
Mar 26, 2010


TLG James posted:

Did anyone else put a landmine in the briefcase in Bloodmoney in the casino level

I just did this two nights ago. I followed Heindrick to his room and saw the briefcase and hatched my devilish plan of placing a mine in it and blowing it up to kill all three targets, since I'd never actually played the level long enough to let the deal take place. I had my finger on the detonator as I waited in a stall in the women's room (there are no female animations for sitting down and peeing so women never use any of the restrooms in the game, while if you try to hide in the mens room the same three diabetics will rudely push past you into the occupied stall to do their business every five minutes).

Left the game running while watching TV and listening for the notifications. I hear that little 'something's happening' blip and am greeted with seeing the PIP of the scientist exploding. Unfortunately I'm a disgrace to the resourceful spirit of 47 so at this point I just gunned the other two down with the agency's TMP and ran for the door. Eventually I'll figure out how to SA the level without peeking at youtube.

Does the agency's supply crate ever contain anything in any of the other levels? I only remember House of Cards having anything, if you don't count the Mauser in the Opera level.

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



csidle posted:

That's pretty much what this guy does. His videos are rather good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Bzg99DE1w

Alright, I love this guy. He even shows off the random little variations in each mission, all in a very entertaining, not overly obnoxious style. Good on him!

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007



Tewratomeh posted:

So does anybody have a reliable way to use cheats with the Steam version? It came up earlier in the thread but nobody really answered. I've used three different trainers and none of them work at all, and there was a "patcher" or something but it looked pretty fishy.
Use this.

Run the game, then this once a level has loaded. Press C to access the cheat menu.

You have to re-run it every time you start a level. Cheats remain active but the menu won't work otherwise.

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



^^ Thanks!

Oh, and this is just brilliant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbptWt_Qs4

This game just keeps on surprising me.

Jefferoo
Jun 23, 2008
PLEASE GO AWAY JEFFEROO. YOU ARE NOT AN INTELLECTUAL SAVIOR, YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER IN GAMES(AND RAPIDLY GOING DEAF!) AND A BLIGHT UPON HUMANITY.


Don't forget my personal favorite: How Not To Play Hitman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRC5ab5tLUY

Swartz
Jul 28, 2005



Update on toying with shaders, enabling SSAO, etc.

Well, first off I forgot the difference between KL1 and 2, and I was using the ones from the 1st game, hence no noticable difference. I checked and it appears that KL2 has it's shaders hidden away somewhere where I can't get to them.

Anyway, SSAO can be enabled on Nvidia cards in Blood Money I found, but it's buggy and slows things down quite a bit (it did to my GTX 260 anyway).

Here's some screens in-case you want to try it out. The tool is Nvidia Inspector:

http://i.imgur.com/24pkB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6PYE8.jpg

Evilfreud
Jan 14, 2007


Tewratomeh posted:

Alright, I pretty much hated the White House level apart from my murderous rampage with a nail gun. What can I say? poo poo got a little out-of-hand. I did enjoy pushing the First Lady down the steps and then shooting the Presidential Dog, though.

It was all worth it for the ending credits sequence. What a bad-rear end way to end a bad-rear end game of being a bad-rear end. The best part was (I don't know if we need spoilers at this point but what the hell) I left the interviewer as the last one alive, and I happened across the stash of melee weapons. The screwdriver was my weapon of choice

The Game ending is epic, the masacre in church ! (sorry for spoiler)

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010


Tewratomeh posted:

^^ Thanks!

Oh, and this is just brilliant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbptWt_Qs4

This game just keeps on surprising me.

Did this yesterday and just pushed the wife into the pool to somehow get Silent Assassin.

One of those "silent bombs", you know?

Evilfreud
Jan 14, 2007


Quantum of Phallus posted:

Did this yesterday and just pushed the wife into the pool to somehow get Silent Assassin.

One of those "silent bombs", you know?

HAhahaa awesome, better way to kill the wife is to go to the garden shed, get litghter fluid, go to the BBQ, Rig it with lighter fluid, and the wife turns into a burning human :P

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



I think the only way you could follow up the explosion and limo kill is to kill the wife with the shattered glass roof of the pool. You see, what happened was the shockwave of the random explosive blast broke the glass over the pool house, killing the wife. The gentleman in the suit just happened to be in the house to console the wife after the tragic loss of her husband in a hit-and-run accident.

Boing
Jul 12, 2005

trapped in custom title factory, send help



Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing, you say? But I'm not even moving!


Boing posted:





Stay classy, IO.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Quantum of Phallus posted:

Did this yesterday and just pushed the wife into the pool to somehow get Silent Assassin.

One of those "silent bombs", you know?

I think "accident" kills don't count against you for Silent Assassin, and pushing somebody over a railing/down stairs/into a pool is an accident.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006


Pornographic Memory posted:

I think "accident" kills don't count against you for Silent Assassin, and pushing somebody over a railing/down stairs/into a pool is an accident.

This is correct. In the Hitman universe a keen swimmer drowning in two feet of water doesn't count as a suspicious death.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


Doc Hawkins posted:

Stay classy, IO.

To be fair that only comes up after the "Hillbilly hick" wedding level. So it's more a jab at rednecks than anything homophobic.

Swartz
Jul 28, 2005



Lasher posted:

To be fair that only comes up after the "Hillbilly hick" wedding level. So it's more a jab at rednecks than anything homophobic.

Actually it can happen in any of the levels.

Anyway, if anyone wants to spice up the visuals in H:BM a tiny bit, download the following:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sx7ewjwd1map38w

Installation:
1) Backup your "Scenes" folder.
2) Go into each Scenes/M##/M##_main.zip folder using WinRar to open them
3) Dump the Shaders folder into the zip file by dragging and dropping it in.
Note: DO NOT unpack the zip folder or anything like that, you have to drag & drop the files into there.

All it does is add more pronounced shadows basically, which I think makes the game look quite a bit better. If you have a nvidia card, I would also recommend downloading NvidiaInspector to enable SSAO and if you have a really good rig, even Super Grid Sampling AA.

*For SSAO to work, simply modify the ambient occlusion bit to the Fallout 3 drop-down setting, or the Left4Dead setting (can't figure out what works better, I recommend experimenting) & simply make sure to enable SSAO in regular Nvidia control panel settings.

*For Super Grid Sampling AA (very system intensive, but looks really nice): change Antialiasing Capability so that the bit ends in '10C1'.
Then set Antialiasing Behavior Flags to None, AA Mode should be Enhance Application Setting, normal AA to whatever, and then AA Transparency Supersampling to 2-8x Super Grid Sampling (note: can make the image a bit blurry depending on settings; try and make sure the Super Grid AA is 1/2 the setting you chose for regular AA).

Not much but I'm a graphics whore so I'm taking whatever I can from my new playthrough.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


Swartz posted:

Actually it can happen in any of the levels.

No way! I swear it only ever came up for me when doing "Till Death Do Us Part"

Well now it's a lot less funny.

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WickedIcon
Jan 3, 2011


I don't think it's un-classy, they're just following the media stereotype that cops are assholes.

Also, that trainer/patch/cheat-enabler thing doesn't work correctly for some reason...

WickedIcon fucked around with this message at May 18, 2011 around 20:34

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