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Roark
Dec 1, 2009

Archer! Come out to playyyyy!

I'll buck the trend and say that I enjoyed FF #6. I'm a huge Cosmic Marvel fan, and it was good to see the Inhumans back and Black Bolt in particular back.

Fake Edit: And I guess it's kind of full circle, as the Inhumans first appeared in Fantastic Four back in the 60s.

Roark fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2011 around 16:30

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

I just wanted to talk about the comics, see? All those shitty, amazing comics


Short version:

1) The Kree are an ancient alien race whose empire spans the galaxy. Because they're a huge empire, they tend to get into protracted wars with other races, such as the Skrulls.

2) The Kree do not possess the ability to mutate or evolve. Many of their enemies did, and the Kree wanted to have superpowered soldiers. They'd heard stories about how the Celestials went around loving with species, creating Eternals and Deviants. So their ruler The Supreme Intelligence (which is an organic AI that assimilates the brains of all of Kree's Best Minds after they die) commissions his people to go around to primitive races and start experimenting with those races, to see if they can raise super soldiers.

3) They succeed. The Inhumans are one example of this experiment. The Universal Inhumans are new to Hickman's run, but they're just "other planets where they did this" being introduced.

4) Eventually the Supreme Intelligence got blown up. Ronan the Accuser basically took over the Kree Empire, or what was left of it post-Annihilation. Then Cyclops's half-brother Vulcan took over the Shi'ar Empire and declared war on the Kree. Ronan, not being afraid of the prophecy/premonition the SI had, recruited the Inhumans to come assist the Kree against the Shi'ar.

5) This war effectively ends when Black Bolt and Vulcan both get sucked into the Fault, which was a big cosmic anomaly.

Now the Earth Inhumans have returned to Earth, are presumably aware of the poo poo the Reeds are up to, and are going to join the War of Four Cities.

Is that what people were confused about? You know d00gz and I are annotating this, right?

invalid user
Nov 15, 2006

Shit's expensive, bro. Plus, fuck Lurdiak.


Slight correction.

After/about the time the Supreme Intelligence was blown up and Ronan took charge, the Secret Invasion happened. Black Bolt was captured and turned into a weapon by the Skrulls. This final humiliation at being someone's pawn pissed off Black Bolt and he decided to activate all of his crazy brother's scream-based tech, packed up Attilan and forcibly conquered the Kree. There was minimum (if any) bloodshed and it resolved with them declaring that the rightful rulers of the Kree had come home and Ronan bowed before him, ending all hostility.

Vulcan then heard that the Inhumans were both in charge and super awesome and provoked a war because that's what he does.

meltor
Sep 28, 2002

The Modern Gentleman

Edge & Christian posted:

You know d00gz and I are annotating this, right?

I've been digging your annotations on both this and Batman Inc. Keep up the good work.

BUT WHERE IS FF #6?

Honestly though, that summary above helps quite a bit.

Lofidelity Media
Nov 4, 2004

"Its a Strange World...Let's keep it that way."

Oh, hey there promo for the post-Future Foundation Fantastic Four book.



From Newsarama: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fou...ser-110808.html

Little Mac
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Brothers

I think it's too soon to replace FF, but if this were a second book I'm not sure what it'd be about.

Lofidelity Media
Nov 4, 2004

"Its a Strange World...Let's keep it that way."

Matt Cruea posted:

I think it's too soon to replace FF, but if this were a second book I'm not sure what it'd be about.

To be fair, issue #600 is coming up, and we all knew that Johnny Storm would be back for that.

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

Can't Kirby just redraw him back to life?

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Myrddin Emrys posted:

Can't Kirby just redraw him back to life?

Pretty sure Kirby said that was a one off.

Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island


Well that didn't take long.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

I don't know if I'm ready to let go of the Future Foundation.

bairfanx
Jan 20, 2006

I look like this IRL,
but, you know,
more Greg Land-y.


Happy Hippo posted:

Well that didn't take long.

it seems like it didn't take long because we've been getting 2 issues a month...

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Another teaser image hit today.

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

So are, uh, are they just making Spidey a member of the Fantastic Four?

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


While I'd hate for them to bring back Johnny so fast, technically we don't really know if he actually died or not. The last time he was seen was just him getting dragged away by bugs.

Everyone kind of jumped to the conclusion that he was dead.

demolition rickshaw
Mar 9, 2007

I NEED AVATARS. AVATARS OF HARDHAT SPIDER-MAN!


Deadpool posted:

Another teaser image hit today.



I'm not ready to let go of the Future Foundation either. Love the concept, love the costumes, love where it's going. I trust Hickman but man look how good they look right there.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005


Myrddin Emrys posted:

So are, uh, are they just making Spidey a member of the Fantastic Four?

Wouldn't be the first time. Might as well get Wolverine in there too, just for old time's sake.

demolition rickshaw
Mar 9, 2007

I NEED AVATARS. AVATARS OF HARDHAT SPIDER-MAN!


DeimosRising posted:

Wouldn't be the first time. Might as well get Wolverine in there too, just for old time's sake.

C'monnnnnnnn She-Hulk

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006


E the Shaggy posted:

While I'd hate for them to bring back Johnny so fast, technically we don't really know if he actually died or not. The last time he was seen was just him getting dragged away by bugs.

Everyone kind of jumped to the conclusion that he was dead.

That's what we in the business call a fake-out.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Deadpool posted:

Another teaser image hit today.



Not a thing about this I don't like. I hope the Foundation stays around for a long time.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Make the posts!
Make the posts!


E the Shaggy posted:

While I'd hate for them to bring back Johnny so fast, technically we don't really know if he actually died or not. The last time he was seen was just him getting dragged away by bugs.

Everyone kind of jumped to the conclusion that he was dead.

I guess I was fooled, because during the gate-closing, I thought Ben was so torn up because he watched Johnny get killed.

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



It'd be great if they did a fakeout where no, Johnny really was dead.

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

PH.D IN DARKNESS, M.A. IN MADNESS, B.A. IN TERROR (with a minor in Women's Studies)

muscles like this? posted:

It'd be great if they did a fakeout where no, Johnny really was dead.

Or they just swapped him out with the Original Human Torch.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001
Those who would dominate others must first dominate themselves

TwoPair posted:

I guess I was fooled, because during the gate-closing, I thought Ben was so torn up because he watched Johnny get killed.
Wouldn't you be torn up if you had to watch your best friend fighting an insane tidal wave of near infinite enemies? It's a pretty grim scene. (Also he's shown alive as the door closes)

I feel like his death was intentionally left just vague enough to tell a grander story later.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

Man you spin around on the roof of a building couple of times and people going to think that some other news company is trying to ape Daily Planet


I've always thought that Reed is Thing's best friend, but it kind of makes sense and is sort of cool that Johnny has taken that position as the years have gone by...

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Make the posts!
Make the posts!


Reed may be Thing's best friend, but science is Reed's best friend. Might as well be bros with someone who'll actually hang out with you. Unless you want to chill with Dragon Man, I guess.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

ME BOSS
YOU NOT


I always kind of looked at the relationships like Reed and Ben were friends, but Ben and Johnny were like brothers.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


Dacap posted:

I always kind of looked at the relationships like Reed and Ben were friends, but Ben and Johnny were like brothers.

Yep, also Ben and Reed might have been best friends Reed has gotten more obsessed with science over the years. If he has trouble pulling himself away from science for his wife there is no way he would for Ben. So Ben and Johnny while at first got on each others nerves they soon became best friends. For Johnny the only person who comes close would be Peter.

SynthOrange
May 6, 2007

I never arfed for MORT


Not sure what to say about the latest issue except Daamn BB's got himself a harem now.

Also a hammer used to hit stuff all the time is probably a bad hiding spot.

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

The key is to have an avatar/CT combo as iconic as mine. Nobody will ever fuck with this.

Oh, HELL yes, boys and girls.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fou...ser-110808.html

In November, we get Fantastic Four #600 AND FF #12.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

He's AWESOME!


I'm not entirely sure how I feel about Bobillo doing the art, but I'm glad it's not going anywhere!

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

IN
THE
FIIIIIIIIRE!!!!!!!! : : : : )


d00gZ posted:

Oh, HELL yes, boys and girls.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fou...ser-110808.html

In November, we get Fantastic Four #600 AND FF #12.
That's probably the most lackluster JR Jr art I've ever seen.

invalid user
Nov 15, 2006

Shit's expensive, bro. Plus, fuck Lurdiak.


d00gZ posted:

Oh, HELL yes, boys and girls.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fou...ser-110808.html

In November, we get Fantastic Four #600 AND FF #12.

I feel like thus far people aren't as excited for this as they should be.

Also anyone who's interested in unique time travel wars or maybe just want a tad more Hickman in their lives should read The Red Wing.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!


mango sentinel posted:

That's probably the most lackluster JR Jr art I've ever seen.
It's a pretty bad cover, period. Everyone looks so bored and tired. "Ugh, don't we have a car or something?"

Little Mac
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Brothers

Meanwhile, that Quesada cover is one of the best Quesada pieces I've seen in awhile.

Neep
Jan 2, 2003

Terrorist is Prohibited!!!

d00gZ posted:

Oh, HELL yes, boys and girls.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/fou...ser-110808.html

In November, we get Fantastic Four #600 AND FF #12.

It annoys me way more than it should that they're counting FF's numbering for Fantastic Four and FF. Not that I want either book not to be published.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Emergency induction port.

I just hope Spidey stays on the FF. He really fits in great there.

Myrddin Emrys
Jul 3, 2003

Ho ho ho, Pac-man!

Codependent Poster posted:

I just hope Spidey stays on the FF. He really fits in great there.

I say keep him off New Avengers and put him in the FF instead.

That way, we still get the awesome Ben/Peter dialog that we got from New Avengers, and also keep him on the Avengers Proper because poo poo gets too serious sometimes.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

Keep your energy high with my Beast Power Rap

d00gZ posted:

In November, we get Fantastic Four #600 AND FF #12.
I think FF600 is going to be like 96 pages long too, all written by Hickman. So yeah, how do you guys like an entire TPB's worth of FF content in one month?

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Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Boco_T posted:

I think FF600 is going to be like 96 pages long too, all written by Hickman. So yeah, how do you guys like an entire TPB's worth of FF content in one month?

Fantastic.

Though I'm guessing there will be a reprint in the that 96 pages somewhere. There usually is.

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