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rotinaj posted:Edit: I've had a hard time getting copies of Future Foundation, have they said what their logo specifically means?
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EndOfTheWorld posted:Huh. I learned something about The Ultimate Nullifier today. I thought that no matter who used it or how focused you were, you basically started a universe-destroying chain reaction. Now I'm wondering if Reed could use it if he had Charles Xavier keeping him focused. Isn't that basically how they stopped Gah Lak Tus in the Ultimate Extinction mini?
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Isn't that basically how they stopped Gah Lak Tus in the Ultimate Extinction mini? Only kinda sorta. They mimicked the Ultimate Nullifier by tapping into a universe just as it's about to Big Bang. Then... well, it banged through the portal and into Gah Lak Tus's faces.
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Waterhaul posted:What's the name of the thing in the red cloak?
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| # ? Apr 30, 2011 23:36 |
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Looks like Doom from the alternate timeline where the Fantastic Four landed on Latveria and were accused of treason by the US government.
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| # ? Apr 30, 2011 23:40 |
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"The future man must return to save the past." This seems like it's loaded with hints, but I can't just figure it out. Who is the future man? Could it be Nathaniel? I mean.. he's from the past but I'd think him a 'future man', yeah? Who else here is a future man? And what past needs to be saved? Is it Valeria's past as it pretains to this present, or is it a future that is considered a 'past' to future Franklin? Oh time travel 
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| # ? May 1, 2011 01:56 |
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I'll look it up. Thanks! What's the extent of the damage? Is he just not that smart anymore? Reed basically gave it a diagnosis last issue (it had been vague before). There wasn't actual PHYSICAL brain damage, he lost large chunks of memory(? they treated it as "data" missing), however, in parts of the brain that resulted in his being intellectually weakened/unable to perform magic. He seemed to have his faculties, but trouble getting from point A to point B in reasoning. Like stripping out the middle of an equation and then going "Solve this" with a blank spot on the board. Revol posted:"The future man must return to save the past." Syrg Sapphire fucked around with this message at May 1, 2011 around 08:59 |
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Dmitri-9 posted:What's the name of the thing in the red cloak? All the drawings in that panel are of the alternate Reeds from the "Solve Everything" arc. imgur doesn't seem to want to work on my piece of poo poo computer, so you'll either have to take my word for it or check Fantastic Four #570.
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| # ? May 2, 2011 20:12 |
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I love Hickman's FF so bad I don't know what to do with myself. I'm with everyone else that he'll wrap up his "run" on the book with FF #600. Wonder if they'll be smart enough to keep him on after that. Has anyone heard of them doing an omnibus of his Fantastic Four run? Or are they going to do a whole collection of that and FF? As for the Ultimate Nullifier, I like to think of it and Galactus as a hammer and a piggy bank. There's hints of this about, but what if Galactus wasn't eating everything he sucked it? What if he was saving life energy for the next universe? And then, when this universe was dying, you hit the Nullifier, crack him open, and bammo, new universe starts up, and the Galactus power pics a new host.
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Lofidelity Media posted:As for the Ultimate Nullifier, I like to think of it and Galactus as a hammer and a piggy bank. There's hints of this about, but what if Galactus wasn't eating everything he sucked it? What if he was saving life energy for the next universe? And then, when this universe was dying, you hit the Nullifier, crack him open, and bammo, new universe starts up, and the Galactus power pics a new host. Seeing how he's been abused in the last decade of cosmic runs and at times drained near to death, I'm pretty sure he's not saving up anything. Nice theory, but he isn't the big bang. Wolverine on the other hand...
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| # ? May 4, 2011 00:56 |
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I picked to the two FF issues and liked them. I've never read any 616 Fantastic Four books before. Are there any specific trades I should look at to start out, or should I just jump in with Hickman's run since he seems to be popular?
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| # ? May 4, 2011 05:52 |
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Micgael posted:I picked to the two FF issues and liked them. I've never read any 616 Fantastic Four books before. Are there any specific trades I should look at to start out, or should I just jump in with Hickman's run since he seems to be popular? Hickman's run is all you need.
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| # ? May 4, 2011 07:14 |
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Revol posted:"The future man must return to save the past." Maybe a darkhouse candidate like Kang, who's a descendant of Nathaniel, or Zarko The Tomorrow Man? Lofidelity Media posted:As for the Ultimate Nullifier, I like to think of it and Galactus as a hammer and a piggy bank. There's hints of this about, but what if Galactus wasn't eating everything he sucked it? What if he was saving life energy for the next universe? And then, when this universe was dying, you hit the Nullifier, crack him open, and bammo, new universe starts up, and the Galactus power pics a new host.
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Shadowknight posted:That was actually Byrne's exact idea for "The Last Galactus Story"; he got 80% of the way through the story, with pieces being published monthly in an old Marvel magazine, but the magazine got cancelled right before the ending showing this. Galactus was going to blow himself up to restart the universe, with Nova (Frankie Raye) becoming th Galactus of the new universe. Byrne later tried to pitch Fantastic Four: The End to finish up the story, but with the added element of Nova going into the past to recruit the FF for some reason, Doom coming along and killing either the Thing or Johnny, and Galactus convincing Reed to leave Doom with him instead of taking him back to the past. Galactus would then kill himself as before, but in the universal reboot it shows Doom in Galactus' contrainment suit, but wearing his metal face-mask. Yep, found that out when I went digging through wikis after having the thought. Least I wasn't the only one that thought it.
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Micgael posted:I picked to the two FF issues and liked them. I've never read any 616 Fantastic Four books before. Are there any specific trades I should look at to start out, or should I just jump in with Hickman's run since he seems to be popular? As long as you are at least somewhat familiar with the characters, yes, Hickman's run is the best place to start, as he does a shitload of world building.
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Colonel Pancreas posted:Every time we get a death in comics someone makes this post. They always come back and it's usually through either a painfully obvious or absurdly convoluted back door. Welcome to the industry. The death itself was handeled well, and I'm sure the return will receive a similar treatment. This is true, but it's also the biggest and best done death thats been done since I've been reading comics and I'd really hate to see him shoehorned back to life. Waterhaul posted:I don't know why you're saying/implying that they'll do it when Hickman is off the book. From the way the book is going it's obvious that Hickman himself has a game plan in place where he'll bring Johnny back. Somehow this never occurred to me.
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Nevvy Z posted:Somehow this never occurred to me. See? This is why future Franklin didn't say "All Hope Lies in Nevvy Z" 
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What up, bitches? http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/...-2-annotations/ FYI, Edge & Christian is totally the best part of these things. Most compliments should go to that guy.
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| # ? May 4, 2011 23:20 |
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Preview of FF#3 up here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=8559 This seems like a fairly exciting issue.
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| # ? May 5, 2011 17:57 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:Preview of FF#3 up here: I enjoy how... Doom says essentially this is never going to work, but he's wearing a white cloak and is thus fully invested.
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invalid user posted:I enjoy how... Doom says essentially this is never going to work, but he's wearing a white cloak and is thus fully invested. I was really hoping the FF logo that goes with the captions would have shifted to show who the "main" person was for the scene... unfortunately it was just the same logo over and over.
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I was really hoping the FF logo that goes with the captions would have shifted to show who the "main" person was for the scene... unfortunately it was just the same logo over and over. I think the trouble is they're trying to avoid permanently having to remember which logo matches the mole men, for example.
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invalid user posted:I think the trouble is they're trying to avoid permanently having to remember which logo matches the mole men, for example. Could always have a "generic" logo, and then one for Reed/Sue/Ben, and then the white Spider for Peter. It would be subtle enough that most people wouldn't notice, but would be cool to see for those of us who did.
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Something I feel stupid for not getting until recently is that the reason the rest of the Reeds were so willing to abandon their families to join their whole "Council" thing is because they in turn were abandoned by the various Nathaniels and unlike "our" Reed never saw him again.
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| # ? May 6, 2011 02:16 |
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When did Val let the four Reeds in? It apparently happened in the past, so no spoilers.
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| # ? May 6, 2011 02:49 |
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Boxman posted:When did Val let the four Reeds in? It apparently happened in the past, so no spoilers. #583 according to d00gz up the page. (I don't have the issues handy at this hour to check so I'm gonna assume he did HIS research.)
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I just binged through the Hickman run, and loved it. Also, I can confirm Val let the Reeds out in 583, after they saved her from the room of Doom(s). 
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I didn't like this issue. I mean, it was great for what it was... but I was seriously looking forward to a talky issue of the villains at the symposium! Seeing what the other Reeds are up to and how they're escalating the 4-sided war is important, but seeing a full theoretical conversation on how to defeat Reeds held in a classroom structure is just much more awesome!
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| # ? May 11, 2011 18:56 |
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invalid user posted:I didn't like this issue. I mean, it was great for what it was... but I was seriously looking forward to a talky issue of the villains at the symposium! Seeing what the other Reeds are up to and how they're escalating the 4-sided war is important, but seeing a full theoretical conversation on how to defeat Reeds held in a classroom structure is just much more awesome! It was kind of a dick move not to provide refreshments. All good conferences have kick-rear end snacks. I wonder if that was Doom's call, or Reed's.
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Gaz-L posted:It was kind of a dick move not to provide refreshments. All good conferences have kick-rear end snacks. I wonder if that was Doom's call, or Reed's. I don't think Reed would think to provide refreshments and Doom waited to see Reed fail at providing refreshments.
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| # ? May 11, 2011 20:46 |
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I love seeing Reed as a villain, and so I love seeing lots of Reeds as villains. I liked this issue.
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| # ? May 11, 2011 23:56 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I love seeing Reed as a villain, and so I love seeing lots of Reeds as villains. I liked this issue. But seeing them draw up fantastical and brilliant plans of how to finally truly defeat Reed under different circumstances would have been MORE awesome!
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invalid user posted:But seeing them draw up fantastical and brilliant plans of how to finally truly defeat Reed under different circumstances would have been MORE awesome! It could still be coming. It most likely is.
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| # ? May 12, 2011 02:17 |
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Seeing Professor X get wrecked was worth it. Wait what?
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| # ? May 12, 2011 03:06 |
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how did the council of reeds get wiped out anyway? last time we saw them, they held off the celestials.
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I think until we see otherwise, we can believe that they didn't.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I love the current trend of bringing back all sorts of Absurd characters that were phased out in the early '90s and seeing Monoids and Dragon Man as part of the FF has just brilliant. One thing I have liked about this post Identity Crisis/Avengers Disassembled era is that there has been something a rehabilitation of the silver-age. And what I mean is characters that where too campy for audiences tastes after the gritter superhero stuff of the 80's or just lost popularity for some reason have been given more exposure in ways that are actually kind of compelling.
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I doubt the 80's outgritted the 90's, not by a mile at least.
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Ka0 posted:I doubt the 80's outgritted the 90's, not by a mile at least. No, they did. The 80s was for Grim N' Gritty, the 90s were for KEWL. There's a difference. Rob Leifeld never created anything grim n' gritty; he created things that were 'grim n' gritty as imagined by a 12-year old.'
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:No, they did. The 80s was for Grim N' Gritty, the 90s were for KEWL. The 80s were way more grim n gritty with books like Moench's Moon Knight, Miller's DD and Batman: Year One. I wouldn't say the 90's were "Kewl", I'd say they were more XXXtreme.
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