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Who is the new herald of Galactus that Reed mentions in the flashback? Is that something that came up in the Asgardian/Galactus seed stuff that was referenced? If so, that was in The Mighty Thor right? I haven't read it.
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| # ? Nov 25, 2011 11:30 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 02:45 |
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One of the Fear Itself sidestories apparently. http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3327095.html Yeah, some old preacher from Broxton is now a herald.
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| # ? Nov 25, 2011 12:17 |
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Have the Hoolid been mentioned before? I want to say the term is familiar for some reason.
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| # ? Nov 25, 2011 14:43 |
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Madrox posted:Who is the new herald of Galactus that Reed mentions in the flashback? Is that something that came up in the Asgardian/Galactus seed stuff that was referenced? If so, that was in The Mighty Thor right? I haven't read it. Mighty Thor. The Galactus Seed was pretty great. Odin and Thor v Galactus and Silver Surfer. Volstagg and Loki provide plenty of humor. The hardcover came out last Wednesday, and you don't need any prior knowledge to read it really.
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| # ? Nov 27, 2011 18:28 |
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Dear lord, that was just beautiful.
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| # ? Nov 28, 2011 20:38 |
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Fantastic Four 600 was incredible. I want a Dalrymple penciled Franklin Richards mini so bad now. I definitely dont think the blankman is older Franklin because he is missing the ponytail. The goatee made me think Michelangelo immediately, though.
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| # ? Nov 28, 2011 22:08 |
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Die Laughing posted:Mighty Thor. The Galactus Seed was pretty great. Odin and Thor v Galactus and Silver Surfer. Volstagg and Loki provide plenty of humor. I'm probably missing something but I can't seem to find this anywhere. Would someone be so kind as to provide a link? Perhaps it's not stocked anywhere yet?
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| # ? Nov 28, 2011 22:24 |
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Count me in on thinking the blankman is Michelangelo. I had Shield on the mind since the beginning of the issue though since it opens with 'this is the end of the world' when Hickman's beyond cosmic characters assure us 'this is not how the world ends.' - to be fair I've only read Shield through the first trade, I can't manage them in single issue!
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| # ? Nov 29, 2011 00:55 |
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I've been behind/indifferent on a bunch of books lately but I LOVED #600. This is exactly the comic I wanted to read. The Johnny portion was loving awesome, but the closing Franklin bit was fantastic too. Thank you for bringing me back, Hickman! edit: <--- FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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| # ? Nov 29, 2011 01:55 |
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That is some really god awful art in FF 12. The story is ok, definitely not one of the better issues, but holy god that art.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 20:32 |
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Bluetooth enjoyable human being posted:That is some really god awful art in FF 12. The story is ok, definitely not one of the better issues, but holy god that art. Then he looks normal again. Then he's older.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 22:47 |
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Spiderdrake posted:The kids are cute, very power pack and the scenery is good but Reed has aged a hundred years in an issue! And Grandpa Richards looks like some roguish adventurer from a 80s fantasy film. Dragon Man switched heads with the Abomination (or Abomb ugh).
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 01:31 |
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I feel like Bobillo could be very stylistic and interesting, almost in a Travel Forman way, but he needs work and I'm not a fan of him making GBS threads up one of my favorite books.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 06:28 |
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invalid user posted:Dragon Man switched heads with the Abomination (or Abomb ugh). This was one of my big complaints. Not just Dragon Man, but several characters were totally off-model. It's one thing to have your own style, but totally altering the physical appearance of characters is pretty crap. It was also hard to tell some of the kids apart. It seems like Bobillo gave the boys the different goggles for this very reason, so he must have been aware of it as well. On the bright side, he did draw Val as a little girl (and the youngest of the FF), which some artists can't seem to deal with. Enjoyed the story. Very disappointed with the art.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 09:42 |
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He was brought on board for Astonishing X-Men a few months ago, and the jarring nature of the transition to his art was really disappointing.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 11:49 |
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What's with Bobillo hate? I've loved the guy's art since She-Hulk, he brings a real fun sense of energy that a book about genius kids really needs. I will agree that I had trouble telling Alex and Franklin apart, though, but as a whole I really enjoyed the story and the aart.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 12:34 |
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I liked him on She-Hulk and Howard the Duck, but this was really not very good. Like, I think he could be fine for the book, but this specific art is pretty bad.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 14:34 |
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Bobillo's a fantastic artist, but he just seems to be phoning this one in to me, and the indistinguishable characters actively damage the storytelling. It's like the difference between good Igor Kordey and New X-Men Igor Kordey.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 15:26 |
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d00gZ posted:It's like the difference between good Igor Kordey and New X-Men Igor Kordey.  The worst part is New X-Men Kordey is what most people saw of his work and all think he's awful as a result.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 16:56 |
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d00gZ posted:Bobillo's a fantastic artist, but he just seems to be phoning this one in to me, and the indistinguishable characters actively damage the storytelling. I actually went back and looked the issue over and you are spot on. Maybe Bobillo was rushed or something. I'm still glad he's on the book, but I hope that the art gets a little more clear on future issues.
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| # ? Dec 1, 2011 18:24 |
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I think I would've found the issue adequate for a Hickman-written book and better than other books. I'll second the opinion that Bobillo's art was pretty mediocre, so much so that I found it a struggle to read the issue at all. I nearly threw up when I saw that Doombot. I think I would have like the issue more if it wasn't for that distraction. I mean, Val building a lightsaber? Pretty awesome. I really like the exchange between Nathan and Bizarro-Reed at the beginning, too, wherein he's confused by Nathan's familiarity. I'll agree that he's done some good stuff in the past; my mind wants to put him in a mental folder like Duncan Roleau or Skottie Young. I hope it isn't consistently reminiscent of New X-Men Igor Kordey. In fact, I had forgotten about that art, and now I'm going to end up with nightmares for being reminded of it. EDIT: I fuckered up my punctuation. robotox fucked around with this message at Dec 5, 2011 around 00:27 |
| # ? Dec 4, 2011 22:05 |
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So, someone did mention that 616 Nathaniel is likely at least somewhat responsible for the Council of Reeds and how much they suck, right? Considering that he killed all the other Nathaniel Richardses.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 00:05 |
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bairfanx posted:So, someone did mention that 616 Nathaniel is likely at least somewhat responsible for the Council of Reeds and how much they suck, right? Considering that he killed all the other Nathaniel Richardses. No, actually. He didn't do that. The other Nathaniels started hunting each other down, but he refused to participate. Then Doom killed the last remaining Nathaniel and did a little dance about being better than Richards.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 00:37 |
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Lurdiak posted:No, actually. He didn't do that. The other Nathaniels started hunting each other down, but he refused to participate. Then Doom killed the last remaining Nathaniel and did a little dance about being better than Richards. Wow. I can't believe I misremembered that. You're right. So the good Reed is good for having a good father. This makes sense.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 02:37 |
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bairfanx posted:Wow. I can't believe I misremembered that. You're right. So the good Reed is good for having a good father. This makes sense. Basically, Reed Richards joins Team Infinite Murders Forever if his dad or his wife leave. Dude is not exactly emotionally stable.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 03:08 |
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Dammit Who? posted:Basically, Reed Richards joins Team Infinite Murders Forever if his dad or his wife leave. Dude is not exactly emotionally stable. I'm genuinely curious if Bendis and Hickman planned on the 616 and Ultimate Reed characterizations. The plotlines started in Ultimate Doomsday mini seem to coincide pretty well with what Hickman started doing in 616 with Reed, and Hickman's now writing two different versions of Reed Richards in two different ongoings. The Ultimate Reed basically proves this theory is right. There is no Ultimate version of Nathaniel Richards, which explains why there's no crossover with the "Dad being hunted down". I'm finding the cross-universe Richards family web that Hickman is spinning to be very interesting.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 03:59 |
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Dammit Who? posted:Basically, Reed Richards joins Team Infinite Murders Forever if his dad or his wife leave. Dude is not exactly emotionally stable. I really thought it was more of an argument of nature vs nurture and that the lack of a good paternal influence would cause him to walk down a different path (one that eventually pushed his wife/family away as well).
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 04:04 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I'm genuinely curious if Bendis and Hickman planned on the 616 and Ultimate Reed characterizations. The plotlines started in Ultimate Doomsday mini seem to coincide pretty well with what Hickman started doing in 616 with Reed, and Hickman's now writing two different versions of Reed Richards in two different ongoings. Reed's father was present in the Ultimate U before Doomsday. He just wasn't a scientist/renaissance man. He was just another jock-dirtbag father disappointed in his nerdy son for his lack of masculinity. Although Franklin Storm is probably a better analogue for Nathaniel Richards in the Ultimate U (granted he's dead now too). bairfanx posted:I really thought it was more of an argument of nature vs nurture and that the lack of a good paternal influence would cause him to walk down a different path (one that eventually pushed his wife/family away as well). I think he was using the presence of 616 Nathaniel as well as the multitude of alt-Universe or What If? Reeds who inevitably go off the rails when Sue leaves or dies and start destroying everything and everyone that disagrees with them and their brilliance.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 06:25 |
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Kaleidoscope posted:Reed's father was present in the Ultimate U before Doomsday. He just wasn't a scientist/renaissance man. He was just another jock-dirtbag father disappointed in his nerdy son for his lack of masculinity. Although Franklin Storm is probably a better analogue for Nathaniel Richards in the Ultimate U (granted he's dead now too). Yeah, but Reed's father wasn't "Nathaniel" he was like Greg or something. He's a totally different character, hence why I guess he wasn't hunted down in the crazy Nathaniel war.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 13:34 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I'm genuinely curious if Bendis and Hickman planned on the 616 and Ultimate Reed characterizations. The plotlines started in Ultimate Doomsday mini seem to coincide pretty well with what Hickman started doing in 616 with Reed, and Hickman's now writing two different versions of Reed Richards in two different ongoings. Indeed. I love how--for the first time in a very long time--the FF is being treated as characters instead of archetypes. Usually when that happens in Marvel, the next step is to be shifted into secondary character status ala Dr. Strange or Daredevil in the mid-90s.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 13:35 |
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bairfanx posted:I really thought it was more of an argument of nature vs nurture and that the lack of a good paternal influence would cause him to walk down a different path (one that eventually pushed his wife/family away as well). The theme of Hickman's entire run is fatherhood, so yeah, that'd be it. I don't think it's a coincidence that Kristoff Von Doom showed up, for example.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 22:54 |
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I'm still waiting for Doom to reveal that he's had everything planned out all along and could have freed himself at any point, but I'm afraid that he really did get collared like a chump and alterna-Reed is just going to get taken down by Nathaniel or somebody else entirely.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 23:02 |
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I'm still hoping that it is indeed the case and he goes "I already lost my mind once. I got better" but in an obviously classier and superior Doom way
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 23:06 |
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The obvious thing that Doom is going to do is to try to get to the Councils basement full of braindead Dooms and copy himself on to them like they did to restore his brain.
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| # ? Dec 5, 2011 23:13 |
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run DNC posted:The obvious thing that Doom is going to do is to try to get to the Councils basement full of braindead Dooms and copy himself on to them like they did to restore his brain. Yeah, I'm pretty drat certain this will happen. I think that's where Kristoff is going to go.
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| # ? Dec 6, 2011 00:09 |
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Didn't the Celestials trash that place though?
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| # ? Dec 6, 2011 01:46 |
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^burtle posted:Didn't the Celestials trash that place though? I don't think we know what happened to the basement of Doom.
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| # ? Dec 6, 2011 01:58 |
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invalid user posted:I don't think we know what happened to the basement of Doom. It was shown to still be totally ok when Valeria visited the remains of Reed Central.
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| # ? Dec 6, 2011 03:28 |
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Lurdiak posted:It was shown to still be totally ok when Valeria visited the remains of Reed Central. Oh poo poo. All hope lies in Doom(s).
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| # ? Dec 6, 2011 03:29 |
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^burtle posted:Didn't the Celestials trash that place though? I thought the basement of Doom(s) was kind of like a pocket dimension (or at least somewhere else like the grain planet). I doubt that a council of Reeds, no matter how arrogant, would store them in the basement like old furniture. Lurdiak posted:It was shown to still be totally ok when Valeria visited the remains of Reed Central. What issue was this in? I only remember seeing flashbacks and don't actually remember reading it...
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