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This was what sold me on Ryan Hall, I use the gently caress out of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6yoaQjv2T4
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I got nailed with that exact triangle the other day, god drat that's a great video.
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| # ? Aug 17, 2011 02:54 |
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That video is a perfect example of what I like about his instructionals: Even if you never end up using that triangle, you've still got an excellent breakdown of the hip bump sweep.
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| # ? Aug 17, 2011 03:18 |
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God I can't wait for my real club to open back up in september... I'm really not digging that new place all that much and training once a week is horrible. Also, I think I'm too much of a nice guy and enjoy teaching people too much because the horrible old womans that can't do poo poo always want to randori with me. I don't mind helping and everything, but when it's too repetitive it just start to dig in my "real" training time and that's annoying. I need to become an rear end in a top hat!
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KingColliwog posted:God I can't wait for my real club to open back up in september... I'm really not digging that new place all that much and training once a week is horrible. Tactfully tell her that you want to focus on training for competition for a bit and will be working with the younger folks. (Then again Septembers in two more weeks so it's not that much time...) Right now I occasionally train with a guy in his sixties. I don't mind drilling with him, and doing some free rolling is fine. However I usually make a point not to do all or the majority of my free rolling with him, since there are both things we need to work on. Senor P. fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2011 around 05:10 |
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I'm looking for a martial art mostly for personal development, discipline, and fitness. I have experience in Judo (green belt) and tae kwon do (brown belt) but it's been years since I've done either, and now I'm fat and old and out of shape. I'm definitely not looking for anything that can be used to beat people up since I have never been in a fight in my life. A new place just opened a block from my office: http://www.shaolinarts.org They teach shaolin kung fu and tai chi, both of which I've had an interest in. But I'm not sure how to tell if the teachers are any good, or if either of these disciplines are worth learning. There's also a new Gracie jiu-jitsu dojo that just popped up on the way home. I don't know if this is actually owned by one of the Gracies or if it's some sort of cheap franchise ploy. Suggestions? I could always go back to judo since there's a community center nearby that has classes for nearly nothing.
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You can find the syllabi (useless to someone who can't read pinyin and doesn't know Chinese) at the bottom of this page: http://www.shaolinarts.org/schedule.html After skimming that, I think the Shaolin kungfu you might learn at that place will be essentially a karate kata, with different mythical history backing it up. I'm a big fan of trying to apply CMA to fighting, but what you'll get at that school is gonna be very very canned performance art. If it's something cheap and fits your schedule, maybe consider it. I would give a slightly more lukewarm reception to that school if they had even 1 easy to find picture of their students training. That website is outright absurd. As for taichi, imo, the kind of fitness you get from it levels off fairly low. On the personal development front, I think it's ok as a form of moving meditation, but not a top choice for fitness.
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tldr: some training notes and gameplan ideas On a separate topic, my last two sparring sessions in sanshou have each been with exactly one other guy. I've trained with both guys plenty in the past, so I took it as an opportunity to gameplan a bit. Because of my eye injury, I'd been transitioning from southpaw to orthodox over the past year, so now I stand orthodox to mostly southpaw fighters in the gym, including these two. The first guy is slower than me, but has pretty slick punch counters, able to pat and punch over both my jab and cross. He also likes to enter with a lead leg lift or front kick, and then immediately go into a jab or cross off that. I was having trouble staying away and was getting swarmed on once he closed the distance after the initial feint kick. My gameplan was to really step up my speed and throw straight flurries to his head the moment he started the kick. Ideally I'd throw with enough momentum to jam up his arms during his counters and get a few punches through. I'd also mix it up with kicking out his lead leg and tieing up and leaning into him to take away his close punches. This worked pretty well. By standing my ground and inviting him to initiate, I could usually take each punching exchange. Wasn't doing a lot of damage since I was nearly arm punching to get the speed I wanted, but it was enough to interrupt his combos. It took a couple of rounds of alternately getting to the inside of his punches or kicking out his front leg, but he had to eventually come back with a different attack, which was to go to a sidekick off the feint. I did my best to read that and teep him away. I honestly don't think I've ever so decisively had such control of each round. The one thing I need to improve on is sitting behind the punches and getting more range on them instead of wingchunning them out there. The second guy is about my height but has a real reach disadvantage. He's faster than me and throws all sorts of kicks and has good timing with knees to the body. I have longish arms but am still pretty lovely about fully extending my punches. Here, I decided to stick to a jab for as long as possible, and mix in lead hooks and crosses where possible, finishing with a leg kick. This worked ok, with he and I scoring equally, but it was pretty boring and neither of us were pushing the pace. My coach loves to yell at me for using single techniques. So then I occasionally tried to slip his punches and start a punch combo with an uppercut to the body. This didn't go so well, since I was coming in closer than I needed to and getting kneed or very close to kneed several times. Whenever he plum clinched me, I was unsuccessful in leaning in on him and pushing him off balance, so I could only retaliate with pretty pitiful uppercuts in between blocking the knees. At some point I teeped poorly and tore part of my big toenail off. Taping it up earned us a break and I decided to focus on countering and making him keep his guard up, hopefully reducing his kicks and knees. At the time I didn't realize it, but it only really worked cuz I have a real reach advantage over him. I stood more sideways and slipped his jabs and came back with lead crosses. This one bit was really really effective, but I realized that I have no idea what to follow that cross with. I'm just not good enough with punches to find any other openings against a southpaw, and I was abstaining from kicking for obvious reasons. Eventually, I slowed down and he took advantage of my sideways stance and closed in on me, getting off good punch and kick combos. Because I was sideways and out of position, my answering punches were pretty sloppy and he slipped the poo poo out of them. This guy is also pretty effective with his superman punch, and I remember him using it to close distance at least 3 times. I still have trouble reading it, but if I had had more gas, I should have interrupted by stepping in with straight punches. At best I was just potshotting with jabs or crosses to the body. Gameplan for partner B next time: - teep more to set distance. My sidekick is too telegraphed to catch him with it. - figure out at least one more punch to follow a counter cross. Ideas: do a lead leg kick, jab / double jab off the cross; step in more and follow the cross with a lead uppercut, pivot to outside. Need to watch his knee counter though. - double leg him when I have him cornered. I know it's risky since he times the knees well, but he's got a pretty tall standard MT stance, and it's just asking to be taken down. I had one sloppy double on him, and then another where he was saved by grabbing the ropes. - keep guard high and tight on the break. He doesn't teep as much as some people, and I was barely avoiding a lot of high kicks with my hands out of position, so worth it to bring guard up. - if in a more boxing stance, square up as soon as in clinch range and start shoving. Don't get tagged because you're being off balanced. NB: the dark side is ducking in so fast that you're headbutting. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2011 around 07:52 |
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henkman posted:Good news! Someone else made a highlight video. It's at 3:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7eqfRfWboE
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Fleshpeg posted:That video is a perfect example of what I like about his instructionals: Even if you never end up using that triangle, you've still got an excellent breakdown of the hip bump sweep. yeah that was a good video. I hip bump a lot and it really illuminated some mistakes I was making. All of my regular training partners know to expect them and counter them regularly now, anyway, but they should become more effective as I implement those concepts. and I somehow managed to get a gigantic black eye last night. That is some aggressive hugging
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Last night one of the fighters in the main event of my next card dropped. We're just under two weeks out, and there wasn't much that could be done, so that fight got dropped. That sucks, but the good news is my couch offered me the spot. I'm going to be the main event at our next home card. Whoa. I’ve trained harder than ever before, and was already extremely psyched for my fight, but this just put a whole new meaning on the night for me. I stumbled into the last thread about a year and a half ago, not knowing what I wanted from the Martial Arts, but sure as hell didn't want to do any striking or real fighting. I just wanted to stay in shape and maybe learn some self defense. Now I'm a main event at my 4th fight. I’ve lost something close to 30lbs, I'm stronger than I ever was, both physically and mental, and I have a whole new family in my team. Today is my last day at my job, as I'm being laid off, but I don't even care. I'm taking my severance and moving to the town my gym is in to start training even more. I wish I had started this when I was younger and first became interested. It has been the most amazing and positive aspect of my 29 years kicking around on this dust ball. Martial arts pulled me back from a very dark place and gave my life meaning. In a way, I owe some of that to you guys in these threads. I came in here asking questions, and got some great advice that lead me down this road. Thanks. To anyone reading this and thinking about starting up a Martial Art, I can't emphasize enough how you should put your fears and uncertainty aside, and dive right in. I never expected this from my life. Words don’t do these feelings justice.
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Very cool dude! I can also relish the sentiments of wanting to have started earlier but make do with what you've got and keep pushing forward. Good luck!
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TheStampede posted:Today is my last day at my job, as I'm being laid off, but I don't even care. I'm taking my severance and moving to the town my gym is in to start training even more. How does your insurance situation work then? You COBRAing out at least until after the fight?
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Thoguh posted:How does your insurance situation work then? You COBRAing out at least until after the fight? Probably. I've got to have my exit interview later, and I'll hammer it out a little more then. I've been informed before that my gym insures it's fighters though. I got a tooth knocked loose in an exhibition match and they told me to submit the claim to them. Not really sure how that all works though.
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| # ? Aug 17, 2011 16:34 |
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mindtwist posted:I somehow managed to get a gigantic black eye last night. That is some aggressive hugging Black eye from BJJ you say? I had that stupid thing for 3 weeks! All from trying a hip bump sweep on a FNG, who decided that a headbutt would be an effective counter (it is, by the way).
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The Jizzer posted:I'm looking for a martial art mostly for personal development, discipline, and fitness. I have experience in Judo (green belt) and tae kwon do (brown belt) but it's been years since I've done either, and now I'm fat and old and out of shape. I'm definitely not looking for anything that can be used to beat people up since I have never been in a fight in my life. I'd say just go and ask to sit quietly in a corner and watch an adults session. You're not a complete newbie, you should be able to figure out if the coaching is effective and if you enjoy their style. Check out whether the students are disciplined and focused on good form - even in a brand new school full of beginners the teachers should be able to maintain an atmosphere of hard work. It looks like they do one-hour classes which are pretty short so if folks aren't constantly working hard for at least the first 30 minutes or so the class is probably light on conditioning. As to whether kung fu or tai chi are worth learning.. well, they are certainly interesting ways to move. As with all disciplines if you train hard you'll progress well, and even slow-looking tai chi will get you pretty fit if you maintain deep stances and explosive kicks. I'd say try both out (at that school or another), and you might end up enjoying yourself which is what's really important. I never thought I'd like showy impractical kung fu before trying it.
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Drewjitsu posted:Black eye from BJJ you say? lol drat. and ugh, i went over to the house of one of the guys from my club to train a bit, he's got a room with mats and poo poo. he's a really nice guy but i don't think he understands the difference between training and competitions, and he tries a bit too hard. i told him my shoulders were hurting and he wrenched the gently caress out of them several times anyway
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gently caress yeah, summer's over. First class of the new season, signed up at my BJJ gym, had an excellent session. I'm totally psyched to get murdered with violence again, after more than a month of nothing but conditioning. My neck hurts like a bitch, though. Should raise my shoulders more when looking ahead while in guard.
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Destroyed the landlords washing machine by washing my gi top. Guess its handwash from now on. If I kill the new machine I'll probably be out on the street. I assume I can just fill the laundry sink with some cold water and some laundry powder and just soak it for an hour or so and then hang it up?
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Nierbo posted:Destroyed the landlords washing machine by washing my gi top. Guess its handwash from now on. If I kill the new machine I'll probably be out on the street. I assume I can just fill the laundry sink with some cold water and some laundry powder and just soak it for an hour or so and then hang it up? Don't think it's your gi's fault... I don't see how a gi is worst than a whole batch of towels.
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KingColliwog posted:Don't think it's your gi's fault... I don't see how a gi is worst than a whole batch of towels. Oh really? I thought maybe because it held so much water that it got too heavy as its a front loader machine. V Oh cool, I feel a bit better now that I didn't cost him 500 bucks Nierbo fucked around with this message at Aug 18, 2011 around 02:10 |
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No way. Any washing machine built this century should be able to handle a handful of gis, let alone one.
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Nierbo posted:Oh really? I thought maybe because it held so much water that it got too heavy as its a front loader machine. Yea, no way it's your GI. I have a front loading washers and I regularly wash my and my brother's GI + other stuff with no problem at all
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"gi" isn't an abbreviation. Japanese washing machines suck, but I've never had problems with my gi tops. Sometimes I just take them into the shower with me and rinse/wring them out though, because it's easier and just as effective.
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Since I started training I've lived with three absolutely terrible washing machines. Sometimes the gi top shifting around can off balance a machine, and it'll start shaking like crazy and be really loud, and in really extreme conditions the machine might stop and wait for you to redistribute the weight in the machine before it finishes. But I've never blown one up. It must have been the worst washing machine ever.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Since I started training I've lived with three absolutely terrible washing machines. Sometimes the gi top shifting around can off balance a machine, and it'll start shaking like crazy and be really loud, and in really extreme conditions the machine might stop and wait for you to redistribute the weight in the machine before it finishes. But I've never blown one up. It must have been the worst washing machine ever. That sounds hilarious. It was relatively new and in good condition actually and I had used it many times before and it didn't die, but one day one bearing came off while it was washing the gi and it was grinding as it circled like metal crunching metal and it got slower and slower. Scared the poo poo out of me because its a double weave and gets super heavy when wet so I immediately blamed myself. But I'll take everyones word for it and continue to wash it like a normal person.
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So I went to the kyokushin place for one of my free trial classes and it was a bit of a rollercoaster. SUPER long warmup with lots of kata and lottttts of stretching. I almost lost my mind doing stretching. We did some sparring which was great fun, I just tried to recall what I learnt at kickboxing but I got pretty badly whooped to be honest. Then topped it off with some silly hapkido. I still don't understand who would grab another persons wrist or clothes in a confrontation instead of punching them but anyway. The brown belts had pretty average conditioning and the sparring was reasonably intense. The hard floor didn't hurt my ankles either. Student rates mean its 5 dollars a session, which is same price as Judo used to be. He said to come on Tuesday which is their pad night before I make up my mind. But drat those katas and stretching seemed boring.
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You could ask if all that stretching etc. is normal. I know that sometimes after injuries or when people are getting lax, we focus on those more. Or even just when sensei thinks we need a review session or five.
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I asked an aikido guy about their wrist-grabbing stuff once, as I felt a lot of the techniques could be countered by just letting go. His interpretation seemed to be that the guy having his hand grabbed is actually holding a knife, and so the other guy must maintain his hold unless he really wants to get stabbed. Make of it what you will, but to me at least this explanation seems to make more sense than "This is how you defend against a really aggressive handshake."
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Sniper Party posted:I asked an aikido guy about their wrist-grabbing stuff once, as I felt a lot of the techniques could be countered by just letting go. His interpretation seemed to be that the guy having his hand grabbed is actually holding a knife, and so the other guy must maintain his hold unless he really wants to get stabbed. All this is just my opinion, but for what it's worth. Efficacy in some hypothetical real life scenario isn't the point of Aikido. Trying to counter your partner's technique isn't the point of Aikido. The point of proper ukemi is to provide receptive but honest feedback to your partner's technique. So letting go of your partner's wrist is just as contrary to the point of the practice as doing a backflip as soon as they flick their wrist. So, yes you can just let go, but if you're coming at it like that you're not doing Aikido you're just fighting.
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tarepanda posted:You could ask if all that stretching etc. is normal. I know that sometimes after injuries or when people are getting lax, we focus on those more. Or even just when sensei thinks we need a review session or five. Thats a good point. I think their last session was a grading so maybe everyones a bit sore or he thought the class wasn't as flexible as they should be. I'll check out the tuesday session, but I was the only one keeping my hands up and one of the brown belts corrected me and told me to put my hands out further away from my face and not so high. Very strange feeling to be told to keeps my hands down. I'm sure Paul Pot will be thinking 'told ya so'.
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Stringent posted:All this is just my opinion, but for what it's worth. as many problems as my aikido training had, our head instructor had a great response when people would try to pull away. If you disengaged, then he would come after you with a hand in the face or a hip throw or whatever thing we were doing. He would say, "OK so now you are no longer attacking, but we are still engaged, so I will attack and you can defend or not, but you can't just walk away... because I'm still just standing right here."
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Stringent posted:All this is just my opinion, but for what it's worth.
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Letting go of the wrist (or shoulder or whatever) is a possible counter to techniques that try for a joint-lock based on you being grabbed. Which is why in most of the techniques I know that do that the first thing you do is basically lay your hand over the opponent's so that he can't let go.
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Trained 5 times this week and am definitely feeling sore. 4 days a week is about the right balance for me.. going to need a couple good days of rest. I'm really getting the hang of being a training partner during the instruction part of the class now, I'm already doing a lot of teaching and explaining to people that have been members of the club longer, but don't train as often and as hard. Showing them little modifications to pin better or do a technique more smoothly and then feeling them implement it through the drills is a cool feeling 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gt8...feature=related Sorry if this has been shared before, but this is some absolutely stunning randori between Kosei Inoue and who I believe is Shintaro Higashi, the best American -100kg judoka. By stunning, I mean Inoue clowns on this guy for 5 minutes.
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Psalmanazar posted:But that's retarded. The egyptians were never involved in particularly realistic drawings. The stance (chest forward, head across) is how people were drawn, probably not how people fought. Yeah, Medieval recreationists at least have drawings showing accurate hand and finger positions, general stances and written descriptions. It seems like this guy doesn't have much at all.
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swmmrmanshen posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gt8...feature=related That was a great watch. Thanks for posting.
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| # ? Aug 19, 2011 23:10 |
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What schools would you guys recommend in the Tacoma, Washington area? I have some specific things I'm looking for, of course, but I'd be open to any suggestions.
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swmmrmanshen posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gt8...feature=related Wow, the skill gap is just so huge... Inoue never seems to be challenged at all
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