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Looks like I have a tear in my meniscus. I'm not sure how serious the tear is but the injury happened a week ago and I'm walking around with no issue. I have a follow-up with my ortho specialist and I hope surgery isn't required.
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origami posted:Looks like I have a tear in my meniscus. I'm not sure how serious the tear is but the injury happened a week ago and I'm walking around with no issue. I tore mine back as a junior in high school during wrestling practice one day. I could walk fine with no pain but it was moving certain ways that would cause the tear to "flap". I ended up having to get surgery and had them cut it out.
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I had a badly torn meniscus at 19. They were able to put it back together with some sort of darts that would disappear after healing; not sure how that worked. It was better than removing it, which I was told can cause joint problems later in life. Last year I tore it again, but in an incredibly minor way. I wear a brace on it now and it's largely fine as long as I don't stand up in a particular way. Cross training, actual grappling and working out, running, etc. are all fine. Obviously every case is different though.
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I just want to tell you guys, I got to speak with the founders of the Blind Judo Foundation today as part of a school project and it was a seriously moving experience. Coach Cahill is a bit gruff, and doesn't like to talk about his accomplishments (quoting his bio for those who don't know "Seventy-five percent of all [American] medals won in Judo at the Olympic / Paralympic level has been won under the coaching of Willy Cahill"), and kept interrupting himself to encourage his students to get back up quickly and re-engage after they were thrown- seemed like a real class act. Ron Peck is a literal fountain of information about the injustice and inequalities in treatment between Paralympic and Olympic athletes, and speaks with great eloquence about how and why we can use Judo as a tool for teaching all people to be more open-minded and inclusive of others. He obviously cares very deeply, and you can feel it when he speaks. I'm not affiliated with these guys at all, but I want to encourage anyone who feels like doing a good deed to visit their website and consider donating http://www.blindjudofoundation.org/index.php Thanks for reading 
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origami posted:Looks like I have a tear in my meniscus. I'm not sure how serious the tear is but the injury happened a week ago and I'm walking around with no issue. eeesh. Can it heal on its own?
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I think its really incredible how the human body can have torn ligaments and other poo poo in the knee but can walk around normally without pain. I assume the leg muscles provide enough support to keep you going through most daily tasks. I think someone on TUF had some bad knee injury and was walking around fine and training somewhat fine.
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Nierbo posted:I think its really incredible how the human body can have torn ligaments and other poo poo in the knee but can walk around normally without pain. I assume the leg muscles provide enough support to keep you going through most daily tasks. I think someone on TUF had some bad knee injury and was walking around fine and training somewhat fine. I went on a ski trip a few months back and one of the guys had a nasty fall, got up skiied down the rest of the slope, rested his knee, went skiing the next day then went to the doctor where they told him he'd completely torn his MCL. They drained a ton of reddish yellow fluid out of his knee and then he walked out and caught the next flight home. Apparently it "ached a bit". It is shocking how much people can do while injured.
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Stop talking about knee injuries  I have random knee pain and stiffness in my left knee after my fight. I'm hoping it's nothing serious, possibly just caused by my quad being swollen and stiff as gently caress from eating a heap of leg kicks
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I'm so close to being healed up. Probably two weeks from being able to train. Six months without training or jogging, ridiculous. And all for carrying furniture the wrong way. In related news, it turns out that the new place I'm going to be training at isn't actually open to the public, but I know the right people, so 
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kimbo305 posted:eeesh. Can it heal on its own? I think it depends on the tear because different parts of the meniscus ligament get different amounts of bloodflow. I might not see my ortho until next week. In the meantime I'm getting fat 
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I think someone posted this clip in this thread at some point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5maknndsas It's a really neat bit of MMA history, focusing on Fred Ettish, the dude who lost in UFC 2 and spent his entire adult life being ridiculed about it, then went on to win his second fight in 2009 against a much younger opponent. I don't even remember writing to him (probably high), but I felt so bad when I heard about how mean the internet had been to him, that I apparently decided to send him something positive on facebook, and a week or so ago I got a response!  Everyone should send a nice message to Fred Ettish. He deserves it! Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 3, 2012 |
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Tonight, my coach said to stop stalling from the clinch. I usually bait knees (we spar with only knees to the body), block and return with uppercuts to the body. But depending, I'm happy to counter trip attempts and ride out the clinch. In sanshou, it's officially 3 seconds between clinch initiated and throw attempt or break. For developing my game, I should be more active and go for my own throws and knees, but sometimes, I just want to be like my hero BHop and try to drag down the output each down to single digit strikes .
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Striking people: how can I get more relaxed with my defense? My main problem is I stay in a real tight shell hitting the pads. I want to keep my defense up but i can't do that and throw well. It's not nec nervousness, more just I'm thinking really hard about where my arms are on defense. Is there anything, except just more practice,I can do to stay relaxed but maintain defense?
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My judo instructor also runs sumo training so I went to my first class last night. Great workout and fun as hell. Started with lower and upper body conditioning, striking practice (progressed up to E. Honda style!), did a technique, then sparring the rest of the time. Trying to move around my +300lbs instructor was pretty funny. I think everyone needs a bit more sumo love.
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To celebrate FRIDAY I went to the sparring class thinking "i'm taking it easy today, yo" - only to face a cavalcade of horros in the form of heavy- or super heavyweights who kick me in head and after being beaten half dead from exhaustion I think, YES THIS IS MY LUCKY MOMENT, THAT LEAN STOCKY DUDE I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE [hint: this should be a warning if lean stocky dude is smiling all the time!?!] 180LBS AT MOST HAS NO PAIR AND I HAVE HEIGHT ON HIM HAH - I'LL REST A BIT. ... actually was 10 year amateur- and pro-boxing vet who pummeled me for 4-5 rounds with motherfucking 8+ punch combinations of hooks and uppercuts that came in low, from the side, from the sky and I think sometimes from directions i previously was unsure existedsfasdgaadg??? At least my eye didn't get more hosed up and felt "ok"  I'll go chill down now have a nice weekend bye.
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Xguard86 posted:Striking people: how can I get more relaxed with my defense? My main problem is I stay in a real tight shell hitting the pads. I want to keep my defense up but i can't do that and throw well. It's not nec nervousness, more just I'm thinking really hard about where my arms are on defense. It takes some time to efficiently throw the jab well from a high, elbow-in guard. So yeah, some practice is due. Keeping your guard up is important, but you have to learn to blend a tight guard with slipping and defensive head movement in general. To throw a good combo, you have to open up your defense and expose yourself to some risk. By working on reading your opponent's tactics and having good combo execution, you'll learn to attack and stay out of the way at the same time. Once you have this timing down, you can stay looser with the guard when you don't need it (aka right before your attack or counter). I personally meter out how much exertion I spend on defense. I'll keep distance and shake my arms loose occasionally or hold them a bit lower. Once you've fine tuned your sense of range, you can have your guard up/tight only when you need it. SBGi affiliate Rodney King spends a lot of time on this -- he's a proponent of the crazy monkey guard and makes sure to point out that you're not supposed to use that all the time, but only when you need it at punching range.
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Xguard86 posted:Striking people: how can I get more relaxed with my defense? My main problem is I stay in a real tight shell hitting the pads. I want to keep my defense up but i can't do that and throw well. It's not nec nervousness, more just I'm thinking really hard about where my arms are on defense. You have to realize that the moment you throw a strike you are opening yourself up as well... So with that in mind, relax, it is only natural because you are opening up. it is ok.
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loving jiu-jitsu. Getting pinned by all this teenagers within minutes is frustrating as gently caress.
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Christoff posted:loving jiu-jitsu. Getting pinned by all this teenagers within minutes is frustrating as gently caress.  Just wait until you're doing it to the new teenagers in the club.
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Illumination posted:Anybody use Le Roy hand wraps? I'm trying to find some videos on how to wrap them using the method where you use 2 rolls each hand. This is the only video I can find that specifically talks about Le Roy wraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPyHWvW_ThI and its helpful but it's a little different than how they do it at my gym. I've never heard of those wraps but that wrapping looks really loving good. I might have to hunt down a pair that looks comparable to getting your hands wrapped for a fight.
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Paul Pot posted:It does look good, but I don't really see the point unless you're a cornerman/coach. I have lovely hands. Even with Winning gel guards, 180 inch wrap focused on the knuckles, and 18oz Winning I come home with bruised knuckles.
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KidDynamite posted:I have lovely hands. Even with Winning gel guards, 180 inch wrap focused on the knuckles, and 18oz Winning I come home with bruised knuckles. Is it the shape of your gloves? I was getting really sore knuckles because my fist was cushioned unevenly and the shape of the glove was kind of pushing them backwards whenever I punched instead of cushioning them. I was sliding in the glove. I changed the wrapping style which helped slightly but didn't fix the problem. I changed glove and now it's fine and I use the old ones for sparring only.
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KidDynamite posted:I've never heard of those wraps but that wrapping looks really loving good. I might have to hunt down a pair that looks comparable to getting your hands wrapped for a fight. Yeah his way of doing it is really cool and it looks like it would feel great, but I'm just beginning to learn how to wrap my hands so its a little above my abilities.
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It appears a 53 year old guy from nowhere jumped in to sub for a missing fighter in MMA event. Click link to watch the fight.
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I'll go out on a limb and say the old geezer is physically pretty active. I don't mean, like, lifting or taking tour de France (as you can see), but he's out there gardening, playing in the senior hockey league, mowing the lawn or fixing his carage door or something. The kid is trained and makes all the moves (not going into if he's a good fighter or not or exactly how trained) but there's this moment when the old guy figures out that goddamn, the kid can't really hurt me. You see it? Also scrappy older dude. He understands what I think is the most important thing in a fight. When he hits ME, I hit him BACK. Preferably at the same time, goddamnit.
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Ligur posted:I'll go out on a limb and say the old geezer is physically pretty active. I don't mean, like, lifting or taking tour de France (as you can see), but he's out there gardening, playing in the senior hockey league, mowing the lawn or fixing his carage door or something. The punch output he was showing wasn't insane, but I think very few non-fighting disciplines would give you the arm endurance and general stamina he showed in there e: in the domain of combat sports. Obviously those other disciplines would give you plenty of stamina when you do those things. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 08:03 on May 6, 2012 |
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kimbo305 posted:The punch output he was showing wasn't insane, but I think very few non-fighting disciplines would give you the arm endurance and general stamina he showed in there. Probably not. Would be fun to know what he's been up to! Anyway there was just no quit, I love it and Stephan Bonnar loved it too. A guy I know this big dude, 220lbs and a lot of muscle, does BJJ, wrestled his uncle who is a plate cutter who fixes roofs and has been at it for 30 years. Never grappled or fought (as a sport). Didn't go well for the young lad. Just thought about that when you mentioned arm endurance and stamina.
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Yeah, man. You don't gently caress with old man strength. I see this in some of my older (but fit) training partners, they're just so much stronger than they look- or at least what you expect. I don't really konw if it's a real thing, but googling found me this; http://www.fitforcombatsystem.com/maximum-strength-aka-old-man-strength/
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KidDynamite posted:I have lovely hands. Even with Winning gel guards, 180 inch wrap focused on the knuckles, and 18oz Winning I come home with bruised knuckles. Well, you might find Le Roy wraps at your local pharmacy. I do have a "bar room fracture" on my right hand after hitting someone's skull with the wrong knuckles on accident like a year ago. It doesn't hurt or impede me in any way, but is there a way to get that fixed? It just looks weird that my ring finger knuckle is pushed in on one of my hands.
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Paul Pot posted:I do have a "bar room fracture" on my right hand after hitting someone's skull with the wrong knuckles on accident like a year ago. It doesn't hurt or impede me in any way, but is there a way to get that fixed? It just looks weird that my ring finger knuckle is pushed in on one of my hands. Which funnily enough is the exact same advice i got when i went to have my deviated septum checked out.  edit: jesus haven't posted in this thread in ages. That's what getting a social life does for you. George Rouncewell fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 6, 2012 |
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Bohemian Nights posted:Yeah, man. You don't gently caress with old man strength. I see this in some of my older (but fit) training partners, they're just so much stronger than they look- or at least what you expect. That's a pretty interesting link, I always felt as though there was something more to the idea of 'old man' strength. It also may have a lot to do with the ability to be calmer: being old you're not as shaken by what life or a young buck wearing gloves is throwing at you. Relaxation does wonders for applicable strength and cardio. Or it may just be a totally mental thing: younger guys on some level may submit to the older men without even realizing it, and the older guy just capitalizes on it. It could be an innate response, a subconscious fear of toppling someone who ranks higher than you, like "you beat the leader now you are the leader." Not that they would be aware of it nor is it rational. I imagine it would liken to the fear of public speaking. There is a lot to be said about sheer confidence and willfulness as well. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cieY16Ad80 This guy does a little 'mind game' with these boxers so they can't lift this broad...(there is more to it, if you watch closely, when they are unable to lift her they tend to be standing further away, thus increasing the difficultly of picking her up) Besides that, there is something interesting about the way he cues them to not be able to use all their strength, with gentle "shushing" sounds and an air of total confidence. Notice the large, intimidating man at the end is pretty much unfazed by it...he's probably the 'alpha' of the boxing gym and/or sees what the magician is doing to them. That's just my spergnalysis.
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I have no scientific proof one way or the other but I believe that unlike speed most people can keep improving their strength well into their 30s. Especially for those older guys who do manual labor, by the time they are in their 30s/40s they can be deceptively strong. When I was an undergraduate in college my max bench was 245 at about 220 lbs bodyweight. By the time I left graduate school my max bench was 315 at 231 pounds bodyweight. I eventually hit my most recent max a few years ago at 38 years old with a bench of 395 at 190 lbs bodyweight. I stopped lifting after my serious cervical injury in BJJ but I did not feel like I was at my genetic potential for lifting yet even at 38. Because I'm still regaining full use of my left tricep from the injury, I'm down to a 195 pound bench but I'd like to get back to the mid-300s at least and even at 40+ I think I can do it. Another friend of mine who is also 40+ and is a much more serious lifter than I am is close to hitting his max bench goal of 500 pounds. So strength seems to keep increasing into the 30s at least for many people but speed seems to drop off precipitously. Yuns fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 7, 2012 |
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Omglosser posted:Or it may just be a totally mental thing: younger guys on some level may submit to the older men without even realizing it, and the older guy just capitalizes on it. This is why the older guy is usually the top.  In all seriousness, I do believe there is some "sensei worship" that goes on even in BJJ. When I roll with an older guy with a higher belt I tend not be as explosive in scrambles and tap a little easier. I think some of it is not wanting to embarrass him or make him angry and some of it may subconsciously allowing myself to lose easier because I believe hes more skilled than me and that is what I'm supposed to do. And I too believe in old man strength, I think strength is the last physical attribute to go with age.
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Really? I go harder against the higher belts because I want to show them I'm getting better and also there is less chance I'll hurt them compared to if I'm grinding it out with a fellow novice.
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Higher belts are going to shut you down regardless, dial it back a notch and you might figure out a thing or two about how they're doing it. I'm not saying you should never go hard or hesitate in going for subs but if you focus less on proving yourself and more on understanding the positions/transitions you'll see your game come along much more quickly.
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Are there any goons here who have any experience at the Capitao MMA gym in Fort Walton Beach, Fl? I've pretty much never been in a fight in my life, but picking up either BJJ or Judo as an athletic hobby is something I'd be interested in. Curious how legitimate the classes are and how newbie-friendly the instructors are.
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