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Some fun What If stuff I think belongs here. First from What If: Secret Wars, taking place in a universe where Dr. Doom kept the powers he stole from the Beyonder. He succeeds to easily conquer Earth, turns it into a utopia, goes into space, kicks a ton of alien rear end, gathers the Infinity Gems for an added power boost and sets his sights on taking out the Celestials.   I love the little parallel to Thanos' fate from Infinity Gauntlet. Next is the second story from What If: Planet Hulk, where Hulk ends up landing on the intended peaceful planet that Reed picked out. Hulk ends up taking to the planet and the creatures there, especially the lizard/cat creatures. Banner just wants to find a way to escape and the two butt heads when Banner ends up killing one of those cat things with the intent to eat it. They make a truce that they'll each stick to their sides of the island, but one day Banner wakes up to find that his radio he created to call for rescue has been smashed to pieces. He figures that all bets are off and he's going to kill one of those lizard cats. Then he ends up being chased by giant dragons and this happens...      Finally, we have What If: Annihilation. The Annihilation Wave had come to Earth and while all of Earth's heroes and villains had been able to fight off the first wave, a second, bigger one was on the horizon. Then they used a device that would suck the entire Wave into a vortex... which unfortunately took out the moon as well. The story is shown not to be narrated by our Watcher, but by the Watcher of that world. He's been telling the story to every single person on Earth because he feels like he has to.      
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From the Hellboy Christmas Special. This girl had been seduced away by underground creatures and they manipulated her to return to the surface to kill her loved ones one by one. The last one is her mother who is dying from the blood loss. Hellboy goes to visit her and she doesn't seem to bat an eye at his appearance. 
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May 13, 2011 05:13
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From Blue Beetle #7. After the events of Infinite Crisis, Jaime had been missing for a year and came back to a horrified family that thought he was dead. When he turned into Blue Beetle to show that he was telling the truth, his little sister freaked and became deathly afraid of him from then on, even when he's in his regular human form. With his friends and family, he went back to the crater where he landed and tried to retrace his steps, remembering what happened to him back during Infinite Crisis.  
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Jun 1, 2011 09:27
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From What If #28 where the super soldier serum was mass-produced and the US soldiers absolutely tore through World War II like the Germans were wet toilet paper. 
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Jun 25, 2011 04:51
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From Starman #78. The story of Starman is that the original hero had two sons, Daniel and Jack. Jack thought the whole superhero concept was stupid and looked down on his father for it. Daniel, while kind of an rear end, looked up to his father and took up the mantle ASAP. The very first issue begins with him being shot and killed. Jack spends the rest of the series as the new Starman, at first reluctantly, but grows to respect what his father's done. During that time, he'd randomly be visited by Daniel's ghost and the two dysfunctional brothers would get closer each time. After his final meeting with Daniel, Jack is brought back to the 50's for some yet-unknown reason. During this time there was another Starman who nobody ever knew the identity of. Turns out it was Daniel. Jack is able to figure out that Daniel was pulled into the past an instant before being shot and will later find himself back to that spot. In other words, Daniel is going to die very soon and doesn't know it. Jack knows how time travel is and how he can't do or say anything to change stuff, so he tries to keep his mouth shut and lie to his brother. Soon the burden is too much for him and time and space be damned, he just can't take lying to Daniel anymore.   
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Jun 25, 2011 05:35
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Jun 25, 2011 17:29
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From Planetary/Batman: Night on Earth. A man named John Black was tortured and experimented on by the main villains of Planetary (an evil version of the Fantastic Four) along with his parents. His parents were murdered, he escaped and is now mentally messed up. He keeps freaking out, which has caused him to murder a couple people and each time it sets off a power where reality shifts around him. The Planetary guys track him down to their world's Gotham City, which has no Batman whatsoever. Black's powers cause them to end up in various other Gothams of the multiverse and they end up contending against Batman, who keeps changing incarnations (ie. Frank Miller Batman, Adam West Batman, Neal Adams Batman, etc). Batman wants Black to pay for his crimes while the Planetary guys feel that Black isn't responsible for his actions. The first half of the book is Ellis taking the piss out of Batman. Elijah and the rest believe Batman to be some kind of weirdo cop with a fetish and treat him like a joke. Elijah Snow tries to get through to Batman and even brings up that Black's parents were killed for sympathy, but it doesn't do much to stop him. He turns into the original Bob Kane Purple Kitchen Gloves Batman and puts a gun to Black's head, claiming that crime must never, ever pay. Then Drummer, whose powers involve understanding information, says that there's information surrounding them that's connected to Batman. Something major happened in this alley involving him. He makes everyone see.       I always saw this as the Batman counterpart to Superman and the suicide jumper.
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Jun 26, 2011 03:47
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From Superman #221. After fighting some OMACs, Bizarro overheard Jimmy Olsen badmouthing Clark Kent. Bizarro then kind of led Jimmy around through an issue of wacky misadventures, ending with Bizarro setting off a nuclear bomb. Instead, a bunch of fireworks went off. Next is from Action Comics #857. Bizarro had created Bizarro World, but his creations hate and fear him. He's treated like a monster and he doesn't know how to deal with it, so he kidnaps Jonathan Kent and brings him to the planet. Superman goes to rescue him.  Superman goes to the citizens of Bizarro World and freaks them out by cleaning up the city and putting all the buildings into perfect shape. They're all horrified. Then Bizarro appears to beat the crap out of Superman and redamage the lanscape.    
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Jul 14, 2011 18:17
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I can't remember the issue of Starman that this is from, but here's the basics. Ted Knight, the original Starman, is the world's foremost genius in cosmic energy. Almost like if Reed Richards wasn't an ace in every single form of science. Jack, the current Starman, is off on some kind of space adventure. Orion gave him a Motherbox, which took the form of Ted Knight. It has the memories of Ted Knight, but the coldness that comes with being AI. As part of their adventure, they come across Star Boy from the Legion. He's a bit starstruck at meeting "Ted". 
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Aug 19, 2011 07:09
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Kingdom Come had a lot of cool subtle touches in it, but this is my favorite. One of the characters is Ibn al Xu'ffasch, who is identified as the inheritor of Ra's Al Ghul's empire. He is Damian Wayne years before Morrison would coin the name. While the translation of his name ("Son of the Bat"), the comic's sequel and all the supplements of the story spell out who he is, I don't believe it's ever stated in Kingdom Come itself that he's Bruce's kid. There's even speculation due to his background appearances in some panels that he's Bruce's mole into Luthor's group of villains. Anyway, Kingdom Come #4 ends with Batman turning Wayne Manor into a hospital to care for those affected by a nuclear bomb. All those in Luthor's group are forced to work for him and have to wear special collars to keep them in check (except Damian, supporting the mole argument). I cropped out the page to show a really subtle moment between Bruce and Damian.  Awww... Speaking of Batman and Damian, this is from Batman and Robin #16. Bruce has just come back from being "dead" and sees that Damian -- who could have gone either way -- is Robin. After the two of them and Dick fight some bad guys, we get this.  The line, "You made the right choices. I'm proud of you," is nice on its own, but it's the two panels before that sell it. Bruce realizes that while Damian was in his shoes in losing his father and becoming inspired to become something better for it, he also recognizes that Damian is living Bruce's dream of having his father come back to him. He doesn't just tell him this because he means it, but because it's also exactly what he would want to hear from his own father in the same situation.
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Aug 23, 2011 21:59
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From Universe X: Spidey. In the Earth X world, Peter Parker is long retired and he doesn't get along too well with his daughter May. Formerly Spider-Girl, she's tamed the Venom symbiote and goes by the moniker Venom, which only increases the rift. The two work together to track down an illusion-powered guy named Spiders Man and he ends up putting Peter in a dream state. The dream is so powerful that Spiders Man is brought into it and May ends up using the symbiote to mind-link into it as well. In sequences drawn by John Romita Sr., we have a fantasy world of Peter. He's married to Gwen while Harry is married to MJ. May tries to snap him out of it, but he believes that this is some kind of Mysterio trick and runs away. Eventually, May gets in a fight with Spider-Man, which she figures to be Peter lashing out at her.    She wakes up and goes completely apeshit on Spiders Man. His illusion powers don't work on her too well because of the symbiote and it only proceeds to make her angrier. She mercilessly beats the poo poo out of him.    
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Aug 25, 2011 06:30
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The final pages of Incredible Hulks #635, the end of Greg Pak's run with the character. There was just a big storyline involving characters good and bad getting splashed with a wishing well and their wish magic clashing with each other. In the end, Hulk gives up an eternity of gleefully fighting Red She-Hulk and a world of demons so he can save Earth. Red She-Hulk still has a little bit of wish magic left on her, so she wishes that Bruce -- not Hulk -- would get what he wants. Nothing seems to happen and the villain Tyrannus points out what nobody else has realized: Banner and Hulk are not two different entities. They're just one guy who has trouble dealing with his issues and has to blame someone else. Hulk throws a hissy fit that knocks everyone away, turns back into Banner and walks off alone, saying "Yeah. You got me." Two weeks later, Amadeus tracks him down at a diner in the middle of nowhere.       The waving on the last page is adorable.
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Sep 5, 2011 20:20
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That Ignorant Sap posted:Actually... I love that Fat Colossus is there, almost definitely a jab at that one cosplayer who shows up at cons.
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Sep 7, 2011 03:17
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From Thunderbolts #46. A big block of backstory first. Thunderbolts started as a plot by Baron Zemo for he and the Masters of Evil to pose as heroes so they could gain the trust of governments and take over the world. Early on, they ended up adopting an orphaned superhuman teen girl named Jolt into their team. Jolt believed them to be the heroes they claimed to be and became like a conscience to some. By the end of the comic's first year, most of the Thunderbolts betrayed Zemo because they realized that they wanted to be good guys after all (well, everyone but Moonstone, but that's another story). After a while, the team ended up using a mountain fortress as headquarters. While at school, Jolt was killed by a mind-controlled Scourge via sniper bullet. When the team initially turned on Zemo, the one guy who stuck with him was Fixer/Techno. The Fixer was Zemo's right-hand man who wasn't so much evil as an amoral scientist who loves any excuse that gives him the ability to challenge his skills. Zemo's plots give him the ability to stretch his mind, so they get along. Early in the series, he was killed off and had his brain patterns put in a robot body, calling himself Techno from there on. He behaved mostly the same, but seemed even more robotic than his loveable dickhead Fixer personality. Thunderbolts had a new tech guy named Ogre, but he was immediately kidnapped and replaced by a shapeshifting Techno, living in their headquarters for an unexplained reason. He kept Ogre in a status tube along with an unidentified villain (for a future story arc) and Jolt. He had been doing experiments on Jolt's corpse for a while out of his morbid scientific interest. Now to this story. Techno gets his rear end kicked by Scourge and is going to die. He can survive by siphoning power off the status tubes, but that would kill those inside the tubes. Techno is, as I've established, the less-human incarnation of a selfish supervillain.   (an unrelated scene happens in-between these pages, so ignore that first piece of text)   
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I came here just to post that exact bit, actually. From New Avengers #16. The opening bit is Hawkeye doing one of his little talking heads Avengers interviews when he's discussing how people online bitch and moan about who doesn't belong on the Avengers. How even someone like Cap gets badmouthed now and then.  This leads to an issue about Daredevil fighting the Nazi mechs from Fear Itself and then helping Squirrel Girl protect Danielle Cage. Three weeks later...    Between this, the Revengers and Ultimate Spider-Man, Bendis is really starting to get his mojo back.
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Sep 18, 2011 01:43
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A couple pages from Marvel Universe vs. Wolverine #4. The story, a spinoff of Marvel Universe vs. Punisher, is about a virus of sorts that gets put in the ecosystem and turns most people into raving, primal cannibals over time. So it's a lot like Rage from 28 Days Later, only without the zombie infection rules (ie. being bitten). Reed Richards and some scientists need to be escorted out of New York City so they can work on a cure and the remaining, living, uninfected heroes need to give them cover. Deadpool had just been sent to do some recon on the infected and it's revealed to the reader that he's gradually becoming one of them. He goes back to base, gives them the info and acts like nothing's wrong.  Wolverine and Deadpool go off to keep Infected Hulk busy while Punisher and Captain America take on the rest of the savages from a rooftop. Barely noticeable, we'd see Cap with his hands on his head in the background of previous panels. As Frank fires down on the horde, Cap is seen crouched down, holding his head and yelling. 
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Sep 26, 2011 04:26
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From Emerald Night. The sun is dying and Kyle Rayner has asked Hal Jordan/Parallax for help. Hal spends the issue unsure of what to do and visits his old friends an allies.  
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Oct 13, 2011 08:42
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I'm sure they're supposed to be similar, but I can't see him as being Bruce Wayne's cosmic counterpart. If he was, he would have turned into Batman during the reality shifts.
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FredMSloniker posted:Quick, someone find something inspiring! From Avengers Academy #25. The current story is that future versions of the team are trying to make sure their future still happens by switching the mind of present Reptil with the mind of future Reptil so he can manipulate history to his liking. That includes allowing the alien Hybrid to annihilate the school and kill most of the students. We also see that in the future, Reptil had a daughter with Finesse. Finesse, from all indications, is the daughter of Taskmaster and he once warned her of the memory problems that come with the abilities. Almost every time Finesse sees her daughter, she at first doesn't recognize her until her unique physical movements jog her memory.    
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Star Wars Tales #6. During Empire Strikes Back, one of the empire lieutenants brings the disassembled remains of C3PO to Vader, suggesting that there might be some vital information within him. Vader briefly holds C3PO's head in his hands and flashes back to being a kid and discovering pieces of him in a junkyard. He tells his lieutenant to have the droid destroyed and leaves. Sometime after, the lieutenant gets word about Chewbacca trying to get C3PO back.   
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Nahxela posted:From Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Annual #1, if I recall correctly. Where I work, a couple middle-aged women came in once asking where we had the comics. They were looking for the latest Spider-Man. Specifically, that annual. Once I helped them find it, they explained that they were friends with Leah and they knew that this story was based on her passing. Watching them flip through the issue and reacting to it was incredibly overpowering 
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The entirety of Batman and Robin #8 is something for this thread, but these pages are the gist of it. The lead-up is that they dealt with Nobody, the son of Ducard, who trained along with Bruce years ago. He betrayed Bruce and that led to the closest Bruce ever came to actually murdering someone. Nobody took in Damian as a protege to help him go all Punisher on the underworld. Bruce discovered that Damian was more mentally damaged than he thought, such as finding a sketchpad filled with drawings of all of his rogues being horribly murdered. Damian eventually turned on Nobody and got the absolute poo poo beaten out of him until Batman came in and took down Nobody. Before passing out, Damian murdered Nobody.   Batman collapsed a little bit later and Alfred put both of them under house arrest until their injuries healed. Bruce gave Damian a recording he made earlier in the story about his history with the Ducards.   
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Apr 13, 2012 06:12
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Glitterbomber posted:He really is. It's so easy to gently caress up 'man or monster' concepts but somehow Ben is constantly done as a phenomenal character. I think what makes it even better is how 99% of the time, Hulk and Thing hate each other.
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Apr 16, 2012 23:04
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The current goings on in Fantastic Four reminded me of Marvel Adventures Fantastic Four #48, the final issue of the series. It starts off with Galactus at the end of time with some monitors showing his first battles with the Fantastic Four while it regularly cuts to the team acting like a family together. Future Galactus calls to them and requests their help, which they grant. The universe is about to end and it's his job to move on to the next big bang. Unfortunately, there are some immortal cosmic beings out there to stop him. Galactus needs the Fantastic Four to take them out so he can continue on. Being that these guys are cosmic level, they ultimately overpower the team and they retreat back to Galactus' lair. The villains follow, showing that the Fantastic Four have utterly failed.    Some of the panels are too cheesy, but I always loved the idea that looking back at billions of years of existence, Galactus most fondly thinks about these four guys.
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Jerusalem posted:Similar to that, Galactus learns something new about his future and reveals something he's always dreaded in FF#16 What makes this for me is that Franklin refers to him as Galen and not just Galactus. That last panel reminds me of Fantastic Four: The End, which isn't quite worth digging the panels out for, but it's still a great moment. There's this big space armada out to attack Earth and while the Avengers are more than ready to fight, Uatu the Watcher seeks out Galactus and tells him that Earth's in trouble. Galactus asks why this concerns him, since he couldn't care less about Earth or its people. Uatu slyly brings up that these people were able to fight him off and spared him years ago. They could have killed him and yet they didn't. Later on, Galactus shows up to ward off the alien invasion. After he's gone, the heroes discuss why he did that. "Maybe... maybe he actually likes us?" "Yeah, as appetizers."
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Apr 18, 2012 20:03
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From Avengers Academy #32. One of the students is Juston, the kid from the Sentinel comic from years back. He's basically the kid from Iron Giant with a pet Sentinel that acts as his friend and protector. It's still glitchy and talks up mutants in ways that make the others wary. X-23 goes up to them and insists that the Sentinel should be destroyed. Although Juston has been able to add directives that make it good, he's been unable to remove "APPREHEND OR DESTROY ALL MUTANTS" from its directive vocabulary. The only way to do it would wipe its memory clean. X-23 says he should do just that, but he refuses.   Stuff from AvX is talked about and Sentinel starts freaking out because a Phoenix-powered Emma Frost shows up. She's melted down all the world's Sentinels and now she's going to finish them off with Juston's. Pym tries to talk her down and she figures she'll let it slide if they erase its memory, let Pym give it a new personality and redesign it so it no longer resembles a Sentinel. Juston pleads with her not to do it and gets locked in a fire bubble. Sentinel sees this as an attack and fights Emma with everything it has while commanding Juston to run.     It's also pretty awesome that Striker is standing up for the Sentinel when you look at that Korvac story from a while ago.
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Jun 21, 2012 06:55
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Since I brought it up in another thread, here's my favorite moment from Secret Invasion (can't remember the issue #). Months earlier, Captain Mar-Vell came back and everyone figured it was him existing through time travel. He started regaining memories of being experimented on by Skrulls, only to later realize that he himself is a Skrull meant to believe himself to be Mar-Vell and that it was up to him to help overthrow the humans. At first, he opposed the Skrulls, but then he broke down and joined their ranks. His big mission is to eliminate the Thunderbolts and although he's able to thrash the team, he has a hard time actually killing any of them. Osborn steps in and talks him down. 
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Jerusalem posted:Okay, now I know why Jax couldn't bring himself to kill him Oh. For a second I thought you were talking about the MK cartoon where Perlman played Kurtis Stryker.
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I wasn't sure whether to put this in this thread or the Make Mine Romance one. It's from Hulk #55. Since Jeff Parker took over, Hulk has included a supporting character in Annie, a life model decoy assigned to work with him. There were other LMDs, but they got killed off over the series. Annie, like the others, is very human and seems to find the whole being a robot thing to be secondary. Like she'd roll her eyes and go, "Yeah, yeah, I'm an android. Beep bop boop, kill all humans. So anyway, here's the mission." In the beginning, Ross was taken aback by her and always asked questions about her mechanicalness, like why she eats food and stuff like that. Over time, we'd see her always at his side, helping him out in adventures and personal issues. There was even a panel of Ross waking up next to her, suggesting that they're closer than just a general and his AI assistant. During this situation with these Mayan gods, Hulk finds out that Annie's snooping around their pyramid and confronts her. 
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TwoPair posted:Wait... "A war machine like Aaron"? Is Machine Man in Hulk? He is, but Parker writes him with his old robot personality instead of Nextwave/Bender. By this point, he's a borderline sidekick to Red Hulk. Colon V posted:...somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Where's a good place to start with him/it? Is there a miniseries or a good, completed arc of reasonable size, or anything of that sort? What Lurdiak, said, pretty much. It's worth noting that Hulk gets over his Loeb-written "MY SUPERPOWER IS BEATING UP EVERYONE drat I'M BADASS!" self in the very first issue of the run. Steve Rogers holds him in a cell with no gravity for a couple days and Red Hulk isn't able to smash at anything, so he has no choice but to reflect on what a colossal douche he's been for the previous 24 issues. He works for Rogers because he's a soldier and this is all he knows what to do, plus it plays into the idea that he's an old past-his-prime soldier put out to pasture and this is his big chance to relive his glory days. For a little while, he has the problem of crossing paths with a bunch of heavy hitter heroes who would like nothing more than to punch him into the distance for all the poo poo he's been responsible for. The whole run has been incredibly solid.
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Last month in Avengers Academy: Nearly every page of Avengers Academy #33 could be in this thread, but here's the meat of it:      He's okay, though! Once Emma leaves, we find out that Quicksilver switched that piece of machinery with another from a training robot and Emma never noticed. Quicksilver then puts him back together and Sentinel repeats his prime directive.
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How has it taken two days for anyone to post anything from Spider-Men #4 here? The lead-up: Peter Parker has ended up in the Ultimate Universe. After briefly teaming up with Miles and dealing with Nick Fury, he swings off because he's not sure if this is real or just Mysterio messing with him. He finds out that Ultimate Peter died and goes to his home to confront Aunt May and Gwen. He unmasks and they attack him, thinking he's just some heartless rear end in a top hat until Miles shows up to calm them down. Peter beats himself up because he realizes it was unfair for him to even show up like this and much of the issue is based on the four of them talking to each other and comparing notes on their worlds. Also, Gwen calls up MJ to tell her what's going on. Finally, Nick Fury arrives and they're off to finish the plot.     I think one of the best things about this sequence is that by the end of it, even Fury is smiling. He feels like Peter's death is one of his greatest failures and even he is into the closure of this situation.
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RandallODim posted:I just loved this because it's so great to see Loki and Thor have a real moment as brothers. I honestly started tearing up a bit while reading it. The ending of this issue is great for similar reasons, and I'm excited for the rest of this series. Completely agree. A lot of it has to do with Loki's tragic attempts to be a better person and do good, but knowing that he'll never be trusted no matter what he does, especially because he's done some shady stuff for the greater good. The only person who trusts him (other than Volstagg to a degree) is his brother and it must be torture for Loki to come clean and be judged by him. Thor's heartfelt reaction to seeing this vulnerability is one of those moments that makes him him. I'm wondering if pre-Siege Loki mostly kamikaze'd for the sake of going back to the era in his life when he was truly happy and doing it right this time.
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TwoPair posted:I thought this was kinda sweet, y'know, in a weird way. The Thunderbolts are stranded in the far flung future of I was meaning to post this. What makes it great is that it vindicates Mr. Hyde being in the series. Thunderbolts is about redeeming the villains in various ways, although there are exceptions, like in Crossbones' case. Mr. Hyde's been in the comic for a decent while and although he doesn't appear to have much reason to turn on the team, he definitely isn't going to turn good any time soon. He's one of the bottom-of-the-barrel villains in the Marvel universe in the company of Crossbones, Bullseye and Carnage. Just a vile monster. Yet in the series, there's been a subtle sense of there being more to him. He's stood up for Satana on occasion and more importantly, he has a bit of a relationship with Troll. He's amused by the feral kid and gets along with her to the point that he's become something of a big brother figure. The fact that he'd save her soul to stop it from being tainted like his is his one redeeming moment. He claims he's nothing but a killer and in that instance proves himself wrong. Also, I'm wondering if Hyde's role in the series was meant to be Juggernaut before Parker found out that he was going to be taken off the board for a while.
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From Starman, though I can't remember the issue number. Solomon Grundy joined the cast and was strangely a lovable lug instead of a maliciously and violent monster. He gets along with the cast, but when in a hospital bed, he overhears Ted Knight discuss the time years ago Grundy killed his good friend. Horrified by these past actions, Grundy runs away and later reappears to save Jack Knight from a crumbling building.
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"Surprise hug" is one of those tropes that gets me every time. Whether it's Despicable Me, Metalocalypse or that last scene in Batman's Face the Face. Does anyone have that one? The story is that coming off Tim's biggest "gently caress you, Batman" sentiment ever, the two made up, went off and trained together with Dick for a year. Now things seem smoothed over, though slightly tense. At the end of the first story back in Gotham, Bruce tells Tim that he'd rather have him living in the mansion, but he can't legally make him his ward. He'd have to adopt him and he's not sure how Tim would feel about that. Surprise hug.
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McCloud posted:Is it this one? That's the one, thanks. For more context, this is right after we went a few years of Batman being his most insufferable and unlikable to the point that even DC editorial realized that he was broken and needed to be fixed.
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Zerilan posted:Didn't he get so bad to the point that part of the reason Tim wanted be Robin was because he could tell how broken Batman was getting? I don't recall, but that sounds plausible. Here's something from the latest couple issues of Aquaman. In the latest arc, they revealed that Aquaman used to lead a team called the Others. He never told Mera this and now the team has to get back together. One of the members is Prisoner of War. From what we can tell, he's a US soldier who survived some attack that killed his entire platoon and now he's both powered by and haunted by their ghosts. He spends his life in a military hospital, seemingly due to mental issues. He keeps calling up the soldiers' families and then hanging up on them while it's apparent that he's suicidal (Black Manta notes that he hides a gun with one bullet under his pillow). During the big reunion, Prisoner lashes out at Aquaman. (Aquaman #11)  Over the story, we discover that Aquaman cut ties with the group and never mentioned them because he was a raging murderous rear end in a top hat back then and he's ashamed of who he was during that time in his life. In the end, they defeat Black Manta and go their separate ways. (Aquaman #13)   
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Nov 5, 2012 06:35
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