Real hurthling! posted:

do you mean as a victim?

Just grab some plastic empire troopers with a lot of freedom in how you pose the arms, turn one into a corpse laying at the base of the altar, maybe carve out his chest so it looks list he was vivisected or whatever, and then have another human being led by the point of a blackguard's halberd with his arms behind his back and a length of jewelers chain serving as handcuffs. extra points if you use one of the heads with a gaping mouth so he looks like he's screaming.

lockdar posted:

This would seem to be what you are looking for:
http://www.saints-tournaments.com/BOTC11%20PICS_files/IMGP2731.jpg

Tadhg posted:

The fantasy league at my FLGS just started, going to run all summer.

Starting at 1k points, escalating 500 points every two weeks until we hit 3k. One interesting restriction that a couple of people pushed for was "No Lord casters until we escalate to 2,000 points."

That means, among other things, no Lore of Life for my Wood Elves for a month of playing. I'm instead running High Elves for this thing because of that (and the multiple Steam Tank player.)

I'm curious how often you guys run into restrictions like that? I would think that the points needed to take Lord mages would be restriction enough on them. Are they really that much of a problem, or is this restriction a crutch that some of the whinier players in the league are leaning on?

Fast_Food_Knight posted:

They do, however all dark elf assassins are overcosted. A noble with a magic weapon is generally as dangerous except you can use his leadership. Shadowblade himself is roughly another 100 points over a normal assassin and not worth it at all.

spacegoat posted:

Real hurthling! posted:

just use silver helm legs.

Real hurthling! posted:

Do you already own the silverhelm horses? marauder horses might look more evil.

Tadhg posted:

^^^ Looking good.

Uberskooper posted:

Finally, a Dark Elf Lord on a dragon that doesn't look like he stepped out of the 1990's. That still doesn't make him useful, but I have to say that I'm pretty tempted.

Leperflesh posted:

I know you know this, but that's trademark infringement, not copyright.

Leperflesh posted:

Types of work subject to copyright. If it's an original work, like say a drawing of the Warhammer logo, that's possibly copyrighted. But trademark covers any reasonably-recognizable depiction of a logo, so you can't get around it by making your own original drawing of the Warhammer logo and then using that to sell stuff.

From the US Copyright office:


So, no, a generic logo lacking "sufficient authorship" is not copyrighted.

"hope that helps"

Leperflesh posted:

Not trying to "school" anyone. I responded to a post that was less than accurate, with details and links to back me up. If I was wrong in any respect, I'm open to being corrected - ideally with something more literate than "u r wrong, hth" or whatever.


I agree. The original story was unclear as to the detail involved. It was "a warhammer logo". Forgive me for not leaping to conclusions.

Deino posted:

Played my first Storm of Magic game, today! The fulcrums and the ability to have individual wizards battle each other has a very cinematic feel (though it was kind of silly to have my Engine of the Gods sitting on a whirling typhoon of magical energy). One downside I felt was the effectiveness of many of the units provided by SoM. My ally's Chaos War Mammoth was defeated in a single round of combat thanks to lack of impact hits and only resolving a total of three wounds upon the unit of Nurgle-marked Chosen it'd charged. A Dragon had also charged some of my Warriors, taken down rather efficiently thanks to a Scar-Vet with Great Weapon. It just feels like many of these huge, devastating-looking monsters should be a lot more effective than they seem to end up being. The modification to the magic phase, allowing for 4d6 dice for winds of magic rather than the normal 2d6 was a welcome change though, and the cataclysmic spells were a lot of fun to play with. Spawning a Blood Forest beneath a unit of Chaos Knights was very when combined with Awakening of the Wood.

WAR FOOT posted:

Saw Mournfang in action yesterday. 4 with Heavy Armor and Ironfists killed just under 1500 points of Lizardmen before falling victim to Pit of Shades.

WAR FOOT posted:

They have Slow to Fire. Doesn't that mean no Stand and Shoot?

ActionZero posted:

It's promotional material for some new thing that's apparently getting announced on saturday (the manager at the store I was in a couple of days ago said they've been told it's quite a big announcement). It seems to involve an Empire captain who is hunting a VC pirate, I'm guessing it's either a boxed game or something like a set of rules for naval battles in the FB world.

ImJasonH posted:

Oh please oh please oh please GW this would be awesome.

Perestroika posted:

I'm currently trying to get a proper grip on the rules (coming from 40k) and have a question about moving skirmishers. When doing the free reform during movements can I just turn the models around on the spot to get a new facing without it costing any movement?
For example, is a maneuver like this possible?


Every model turns right by 90°, turning the formation from 4x2 to 2x4.

Move to get clear of their forward arc.

Reform back to the original state and move up next to the enemy.

Reform to look southwards, then do a wheel to threaten their flank. Or just a reform on the spot to look in the same direction.


The way I understand it I would only have to "pay" movement for the actual walking east and northwards plus the wheeling, but not the 90° "turns". Is that correct?

Edit: And what happens if the unit has a command section, do they always need to be at the front even while marching?

Radish posted:

Is your idea to bog down the enemy in a huge bunch of skeletons then just try and raise tons of them with your necros? I think you'd be better off knocking the dogs down to either a unit of ten or two fives and using the excess to make a zombie unit then putting both your necromancers in there. Heroes on mounts are really fragile, especially when they don't have any ward saves and you can still fit the corpse cart into your special. You might want to think about spears on the skeletons but that's kinda personal preference.

I haven't personally tried the Hexwraiths out but I think you need something with more combat potential. S5 with no armor saves is nice but they are still only WS3 with 1 attack. I think either a unit of Vargheists might be better since they can always march their 20" and will have 25 attacks instead of 10. They aren't ethereal but the first magic missile you face will probably do 50% or more casualties to the wraiths. Otherwise the monster ghouls if you are worried about frenzy (your general's leadersip isn't great for controlling that) and they are pretty tough and a lot easier to raise back. Like I said I haven't tried Hexwraiths but they seem really gimmicky. Either they will be unstoppable and your opponent will be pissed or they won't last the first turn.

I'd try to get a dispel scroll on your hero necro to stop that one super spell that will end the game before you get across the board. I'm not sure why the skeletons have the Gleaming Pennant. That lets you reroll a failed leadership test, not force a reroll on someone that passed it.

Radish posted:

I think the problem (at least from a theory hammer point of view) is that the Hexwraiths can't march outside of general range and might have some trouble moving through units unless they move real close. I don't think the mount attacks are going to add up to much (probably an extra wound or two). You might want to proxy them before buying since I'm not sure how they actually work on the table.

I'm not sure if I would take a unit of three Vargheists unless they were there to be warmachine/fast cav hunters. With only T4 and no saves of any kind they are surprisingly fragile and since they are Vampires, they are much harder to raise than other units.

To me I think the list is lacking a little bit of punch. You have your tarpit unit and warmachine hunters, but nothing to really deal with a big unit of elite troops. If you end up against Wood Elves, Demons, anything else with magic attacks or magic heavy armies like High Elves, Dark Elves, or even Dwarves with magic artillery the Wraiths are going to be wasted so filling up 1/3 of your list with them is really risky. I don't know a lot of armies that can't get enough magic attacks together to get through T3 with no armor at least once or twice. I think the way to run ethereal is to spam a lot of smaller units so there are lots of multiple threats that can't be dealt with fast enough rather than a big unit that can be focus fired. That might be hard at 1000 points. I used to run a large unit of wraiths at 2000 back in 7th edition where you could hide in forests and they still ran into issues where sometimes they just never had a chance of getting to combat.

I might be way off the mark though so give them a shot, but I think I wouldn't buy and build them before giving them a go. I REALLY would try to work in the dispel scroll though, especially if you want to use the wraiths.

Devlan Mud posted: