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MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

TheTatteredKing posted:

Studying Aristophanes made me wonder if people are going to have to study Colbert in two millennia and think it's as asinine as I did

I laughed pretty hard when I got the clever joke but then realized I was thinking about Apuleius. :smith:

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GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Helen Highwater posted:

The hilarious thing about this (apart from all of it) is that Conservapedia proudly displays on its front page that it was featured on Colbert. Andy didn't get the joke. Also every time he laughs, my ears try to rip out my cerebral cortex to save themselves.
I think those references have been removed. Even the article on Colbert doesn't mention Andy's appearance on the show.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Stephen_Colbert

The whole talk page is worth reading
http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Stephen_Colbert
but this old bit stands out

quote:

This article presents everything Colbert has said on his show, The Colbert Report, as his actual views.

I know you folks aren't big on seperating fact from fiction, but he's a left-leaning guy off the set. Maybe the article should be changed to reflect that. Kazumaru 20:44, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Isn't that clear that he's a liberal playing a liberal stereotype of a conservative? If you feel you want to make that clearer, then please suggest something with a citation to his real views. Thanks. In Christ--Aschlafly 20:54, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

GWBBQ posted:

I think those references have been removed. Even the article on Colbert doesn't mention Andy's appearance on the show.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Stephen_Colbert

The whole talk page is worth reading
http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Stephen_Colbert
but this old bit stands out

It's on the About page.

quote:

A conservative approach to education is powerful and helpful in many ways. It equips students and adults to overcome inevitable obstacles, such as addiction and depression, and it guides learners to lasting insights. There are few, if any, conservative schools, and Conservapedia freely provides this unique approach for the benefit you and those around you. Conservapedia was on the Colbert Report on December 8, 2009.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Is there anyone else still on Conservapedia or is it just Schiafly's blog now?

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
It's the Andy and user:Conservative show.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Lol, it reads like one of those little additional quips to extra validate. "It was on the Cobert show too"

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Suspicious posted:

It's the Andy and user:Conservative show.

Reminder, Conservative is crazy and has went on 48+ hour edit binges.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


PhazonLink posted:

Reminder, Conservative is crazy and has went on 48+ hour edit binges.

Actually, he's a shared account used by a half dozen geniuses, who all love Sun Tsu and Christian Lady Dancers.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Actually, he's a shared account used by a half dozen geniuses, who all love Sun Tsu and Christian Lady Dancers.

Who all type the same, have the same beliefs, and are all thwarted when one computer has problems.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Who all type the same, have the same beliefs, and are all thwarted when one computer has problems.
User:Conservative confirmed as Yudkowsky's insane strong AI.

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Guavanaut posted:

User:Conservative confirmed as Yudkowsky's insane strong AI.

Headmates!

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Really? Astrology?

Andy, Andy Andy...Out of all the pseudo-scientific beliefs you could have picked, you had to use astrology as the one liberals believe in?

:cripes:

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

It's also because a longing for an imagined time of past glory and a sense that the world of the modern era - whatever modern is - is somehow decrepit and degenerate is part and parcel of Conservatism. Conservatism, almost by definition, is about looking to an imagined past that never was with longing and nostalgia, rather than looking to the future with hope and ambition. Restoring lost glory, rather than forging a new one.

Like, Hell, in Aristophanes' the Clouds you literally have a huge KIDS THESE DAYS rant and him going on about how much better things were in the old days.


Replace conservativism with fascism plz.

Polybius91
Jun 4, 2012

Cobrastan is not a real country.

Sethex posted:

Replace conservativism with fascism plz.
What part of that doesn't describe conservatives, though?

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Oh my god, it's so beautiful.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Adolf_Hitler posted:


He was born a Catholic, but he never took religion seriously

(...)

using quasi-religious rhetoric in his book, Mein Kampf and in speeches in order to not lose potential religious supporters. He was far more interested in Social Darwinism

(...)

Hitler abused drugs

(...)

Hitler in his youth was an financially-irresponsible Bohemian (a German word of the time roughly the same as Hippy)

(...)

misguided conservative Protestants who were not aware of Luther's mental state when he became anti-Semitic. Hitler being rebellious to his Catholic father took up a brief interest in Lutheranism and may have been influenced by Luther's anti-Semitic remarks

(...)

left-wing historians exaggerate by calling Hitler "far right"

(...)

Hermann Goring who was a morphine addict and an animal rights activist

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Parahexavoctal posted:

left-wing historians exaggerate by calling Hitler "far right"

So they are trying to tell us he was actually moderate right ?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Fathis Munk posted:

So they are trying to tell us he was actually moderate right ?

No, they're just telling us that Hitler was right.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Tesseraction posted:

No, they're just telling us that Hitler was right.

:master:

Punching myself right now for missing that one.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.
Man, it's almost like an ideology from another country from about 70 years ago doesn't neatly fit into the modern-day American division of liberal and conservative. Of course, if Andy admitted that, Conservapedia would pretty much fall apart.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
You say that, but then one of the parties chose Trump as their presidential candidate.

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Guilty Spork posted:

Man, it's almost like an ideology from another country from about 70 years ago doesn't neatly fit into the modern-day American division of liberal and conservative. Of course, if Andy admitted that, Conservapedia would pretty much fall apart.

Categories:
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Evolutionists
Totalitarianism
Anti-Semitism
Bigotry
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War criminals
Socialists
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Police State
Anti Second Amendment
Liberal Authors



did Hitler ever comment on the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Parahexavoctal posted:

did Hitler ever comment on the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution?
No, but he did remove a bunch of the Wiemar-era anti-gun laws. He just kept the bit that banned felons and malefactors from owning any guns and expanded that category to include Jews and communists and people he didn't like.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
It's worth noting that those removals constitute the single largest loosening of gun laws in the 20th century.

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 17, 2016

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Pff, look at you idiots, everyone knows that Hitler took all the guns so no one could raise up against him, just like what OBAMA and FEMA are trying. :bahgawd:

Also I still can't get over the National Socialist = Socialist = Liberal mindleap. I've seen it so many times by now, I just can't get used to it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

How do people get from socialism to liberalism anyway? They're just about polar opposites of each other.

American politics really confuses me because you have social conservatives fighting social liberals and the social conservatives call the social liberals liberals despite both of them being extremely economically liberal but the social liberals being slightly less so. And this makes the liberals socialists. And there are libertarians off to the side who think the liberals are actually fascists because they support things like taxes.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jul 18, 2016

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Well, both are not conservative capitalism, therefore they are the same.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm more just confused how people's brains don't melt after being in the country for too long, at least UK politics use mostly correct and non-contradictory words for their stupidity.

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


The cold war made everything bad=socialism, and that's carried on despite the cold war ending 25 years ago

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Having only 2 parties makes people see politics as a spectrum with only 2 ends.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

A linear political spectrum would be less confusing if not for the apparent lack of consistency in what the two ends of it are supposed to be.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Its a lot simpler if you put it in the terms of how a Conservapedia or Freep user thinks: in extreme white/black or good/bad. Words like socialism and communism don't actually mean anything anymore to these people, it's just "bad".

Oh yeah and "cultural Marxism" = "very bad", if you've ever seen that one.

Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jul 18, 2016

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

Fathis Munk posted:

So they are trying to tell us he was actually moderate right ?

My supposedly very intelligent uncle who taught surgical medicine at a fancy school in New York insisted that because the NSDAP had the word "socialist" in their name, that they were a far-left group and in fact all leftism is associated with fascism and communism (i.e. Everyhing Bad) by default. Modern conservative/right-wing idiots absolutely like to pretend that all the terrible regimes of the 20th century were left-wing beyond a doubt.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

OwlFancier posted:

American politics really confuses me because you have social conservatives fighting social liberals and the social conservatives call the social liberals liberals despite both of them being extremely economically liberal but the social liberals being slightly less so. And this makes the liberals socialists. And there are libertarians off to the side who think the liberals are actually fascists because they support things like taxes.

One more detail not mentioned by the others - the reason you see "socialism" used as a pejorative by conservatives in the US is purely due to media. It's a codeword for "they want to raise your taxes and use it for government goods and services redistribute your wealth to someone else." They oversaturated the word trying to oppose Obama, and a whole bunch of Americans don't actually know what socialism looks like as a result.

The US has a whole bunch of socialist policies, but that doesn't make the US socialist. Nazi Germany had a whole bunch of socialist policies, but that doesn't make Nazis socialists.

The closest mainstream America comes to accepting socialism is the kind of stuff Bernie Sanders was campaigning for. The Overton Window has shifted so much to the right that Bernie's campaign was viewed by many as being extreme, while it's actually pretty boring moderate-left stuff in the rest of the western world.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

McGlockenshire posted:

One more detail not mentioned by the others - the reason you see "socialism" used as a pejorative by conservatives in the US is purely due to media. It's a codeword for "they want to raise your taxes and use it for government goods and services redistribute your wealth to someone else." They oversaturated the word trying to oppose Obama, and a whole bunch of Americans don't actually know what socialism looks like as a result.

What? The pinko menace has been a boogeyman in American politics since the dawn of the Cold War, if not longer. Pink is just a shade of red, after all.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Parahexavoctal posted:

left-wing historians exaggerate by calling Hitler "far right"

Let's see,

exterminate undesireables
jail dissenters
dictatorship
violent warmonger
increasingly deluded
power built on and sustained on lies
racist
believed his country should be the only world power


hmm...
Current republican stances,

exterminate undesireables (muslims, mexicans)
jail dissenters (jail liberals)
dictatorship (get rid of all the not true conservative politicians and dissenting opinions)
violent warmonger (invade whatever country says bad things about us)
increasingly deluded (Trump, Free Republic, conservapedia)
power built and sustained on lies (fox news, lol recent national enquirer, birthers, etc)
racist (niggers need to bootstrap, the bunch of thugs)
Believed their country should be the only world power (see every republican ever)

Yeah, can't see why he'd be far right, it's not like any of his politics or beliefs aligned with the right....

quote:

No, but he did remove a bunch of the Wiemar-era anti-gun laws. He just kept the bit that banned felons and malefactors from owning any guns and expanded that category to include Jews and communists and people he didn't like.

Hmm, sounds like the recent republican cries to ban certain people from owning firearms...why no, hitler was nothing like republicans

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jul 18, 2016

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Abyssal Squid posted:

What? The pinko menace has been a boogeyman in American politics since the dawn of the Cold War, if not longer. Pink is just a shade of red, after all.

9/11 allowed them to replace communism with Islam as the big bad external boogeyman. Socialism as a slur is directly tied to "wealth redistribution" and widespread misuse of the term started only with opposition to Obama. Not even freepers, those currently most seeped in cold war propaganda, intermix communism and socialism, they're used as separate insults when talking about Obama and the left.

Mr. Belpit
Nov 11, 2008

McGlockenshire posted:

Socialism as a slur is directly tied to "wealth redistribution" and widespread misuse of the term started only with opposition to Obama.

Did you grow up in one of those super-super-super-blue states?

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*


Yeah those things have meant "bad" for a long time I guess.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Mr. Belpit posted:

Did you grow up in one of those super-super-super-blue states?

Left coast best coast, so yes.

But seriously though, look at that spike back during the 2008 presidential race and how the interest graph is notably higher during the Obama administration than during the Bush administration.

I'm not saying that it was never used as a pejorative before, only that the people you see throwing around "socialist" every other insult now often has an explicit media-driven context.

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hawaiian_robot
Dec 5, 2006

And I'm happy just to sit here,
At a table with old friends.
And see which one of us can tell the biggest lies

Mercury_Storm posted:

Oh yeah and "cultural Marxism" = "very bad", if you've ever seen that one.

Isn't that just a dogwhistle for "The Jewwwwwwwwwwwwwww"?

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