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tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Even though every other page on this site blasts liberals for smoking too much weed, the actual marijuana page isn't very damning at all. http://conservapedia.com/Marijuana I have no idea what their definition of "liberal" or "conservative" is, it's so inconsistent.

Every once in a while I'll check the front page just to see their take on whatever big news story of the week. When Bin Laden as killed they were posting conspiracy theories about it.

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tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

particle409 posted:

It's time to play fill in the blanks!


Joe McCarthy
I grew up in an extremely conservative environment and the fact that McCarthy was a horrible person was pounded into my head pretty hard. This is the point where Conservapedia just becomes self parodying.

I love how they prefix everything with liberal. Liberal Mr Liberal went to a liberal place to do some liberal stuff with a liberal liberal liberal.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Wow the list of "conservative movies" is great, especially the "debatable" section. Apparently the Passion of the Christ isn't conservative enough because it doesn't show what happened after the resurrection. High Noon was watched by Bill Clinton which automatically disqualifies it, plus its depiction of a lawless frontier might make people think that big government is good. It's a Wonderful Life may seem Christian at first, but it features an evil, greedy, antagonist, which doesn't send a pro-capitalist message. Forbidden Planet is good though because it depicts an evil professor (as professors should rightfully be depicted!).

Edit: Also, aren't American Muslims pretty conservative for the most part? Their article on Islam oddly neglects to label them as either conservative or liberal, despite constantly using them as an example of liberalism in other articles.

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 01:49 on May 16, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

G. Hosafat posted:

* Having Christianity used as a means to control the people (Medieval: Total War and it's sequel, Medieval II: Total War)
* Letting players get to be terrorists and perform terrorism (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2)
* Yiddish used as a "terrorist" language (Mercenaries II)
* Liberal bullying (Bully)
* Unnecessarily violent torture being used by American soldiers (Call of Duty: Black Ops)

Either the people who sneaked these in have a great sense of humor or have absolutely no self-awareness of ironic statements.
I like the idea that Call of Duty, the most jingoistic game series around right now, is apparently anti-American.

Sometimes I try to write a post describing just how absurd every aspect of Conservapedia is but I just can't do it. There's so much to say.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Unzip and Attack posted:

Just for shiggles, I totaled up the word count from these two articles:

Ronald Reagan: 13,668
The Sermon on the Mount: 118

That my friends pretty much sums up modern American Conservatism.
This seems pretty natural and reasonable? I'd expect a site about conservativism to have a ton of info about Reagan, and more information about biblical events is pretty much the last thing that conservapedia needs.

I keep waiting for someone as crazy as Schlafly to make a competing conservative wiki so I can watch them duke it out with each other, accusing each other side of being liberal or nazis or whatever.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Unzip and Attack posted:

I very much disagree - given that a vast majority of self-identified Conservatives base their values on Christianity and openly call for it to be integrated into government, it says a lot that Reagan has a section that is 130 times larger than the foundational text of Christianity. When you consider how much this site attacks atheism, Islam, and any other world view that isn't overtly Christian, it's doubly insane. This isn't some group that advocates a division between religious and political doctrine - they just don't like that their politics most often don't gel with the scriptures they are supposedly based upon, and it shows.
I see what you're saying but it seems to me like just the inconsistency of the site's editors rather than a problem with conservatism in general. It's not like being radically Christian is a good thing about conservatives. If it makes any difference though the Jesus article is a lot longer than Reagan's.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

HappyHippo posted:

In the same vein as the Atheism and obesity page (but even worse): Mystery: Young Hollywood Breast Cancer Victims. Particularly fun is the talk page wherein Aschlafly tries to defend his nonsense.
Just noticed this one. What exactly is he trying to say here? What's his point? I like how on the talk page Schlafly says how he just "observes facts ourselves and let the readers draw conclusions," but I have no idea what conclusion I'm supposed to draw other than "there were about ten female actors and singers who got breast cancer in their 30s." I guess I'm supposed to deduce that being a "hollywood" person, AKA a liberal, is the cause? The whole thing is just such a weird topic, I have to guess that Schlafly just opened up some gossip magazine once and noticed so-and-so got cancer and suddenly his conspiracy sense started tingling.

Stalingrad posted:

I mean he removed the section of "he who is without sin" and "forgive them father, for they know not what they do", because Jesus was pro capital punishment or something.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Conservative_Bible_Project#Why_the_first_instance.3F
Here's another case where I'm just completely baffled at what the hell he's talking about. :psyduck: Isn't Schlafly Catholic? Has he talked to his local pastor or anyone about his reasoning for rewriting the bible, especially extremely critical lines like this?

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 17, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Wow you weren't kidding about half of these making no sense. I like the one demonstrating that anti-whaling advocates are idiots... as told from the whales' perspective?

Edit: Also the one that just shows a hippie with the sign "hippies smell." I think Conservapedia is the only place in a long time that I've seen demonize, much less even care about, hippies. It's weird how that caricature seems to be one of their half a dozen stand-ins for liberals in general.

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 19, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

JohnClark posted:

These seem to suffer from the problem of a lot of conservative humor, namely that there's no punchline. It's almost as if each of these is missing a second panel where the joke is actually finished, as it is it's basically just conservative talking points with poor illustrations.
Regular editorial cartoons are aimed to ignite thought or discussion. But cartoons like this which are aimed at a completely homogenous audience are just masturbatory material. It's almost like internet memes, if you're part of the community that likes seeing pictures of hippies covered in dirt or Obama smoking weed, or pictures with "TAXPAYER MONEY" and "SOCIALISM" stamped on them, then you'll think they're hilarious and awesome, but if you're anyone else you just won't get it.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

mew force shoelace posted:

For some reason this makes me laugh: http://www.conservapedia.com/The_Legend_of_Zelda_%28game%29

Why is that even there? The fact it's not even crazy makes it seem more funny. Why even mention it?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Donut I guess in their quest to make the site a complete replacement to Wikipedia they added a few random articles.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

jojoinnit posted:

Have you guys seen their article on the Confederate States of America?

It's surprisingly balanced and doesn't try to avoid the slave issue.
I was just thinking about this and I was wondering, is Shlafly from the South or identifies with the South?

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 00:07 on May 21, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

So Shalfly endorses IQ tests? I thought I remember him complaining about how they're liberally biased or something. (Not that IQ tests aren't an ineffective measure of intelligence that no one uses anymore anyway.)

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

How the hell do you assess a question like "Write about anything in the lecture?"

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

My IP's been blocked from editing (or at least registering an account to edit) since before I even discovered Conservapedia, but I've never had a problem viewing it.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Scratch that last post, I was just able to create an account and just opened a page to edit with no problem. I'm 99% sure I tried this a few months ago and it was blocked though. They must have loosened up a bit.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Dr Christmas posted:

I wonder if they are going to start downplaying this, seing as jow Michelle Obama is trying to implement diabolical food communism under the guise of an anti-obesity campaign.
I decided to look this up http://conservapedia.com/Liberal_hypocrisy#The_Obamas_and_obesity :psyduck:

quote:

This focus on obesity, however, didn't stop the Obama family from going to a Mount Desert[26] ice cream parlor in North Carolina[27] (where a typical vanilla is very high in saturated fat and calories,[28] alongside any other premium ice cream)[29] ; nor did it stop Michelle Obama from enjoying cheeseburgers and fries on the campaign trail in Milwaukee[30]; nor did it prevent Barack Obama from loading up on two Philly cheesesteak sandwiches, washed down with a mint chocolate chip ice cream cone while in Pennsylvania[31] In addition, Barack Obama appointed Regina Benjamin, an obese woman, to be the US Surgeon General.[32] Regina Benjamin and the Obamas have yet to publicly discuss the significant obesity problem within the lesbian community.

This is like a conservative helldump.

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 02:42 on May 23, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Pesky Splinter posted:

Does he say what his definition of humour is? Or does he evade it completely like what is the difference between the "Best of the Public" and an expert, or what criteria he uses for his "Best New Conservative Words?
No, not really. The best I can do at rewording his argument into something remotely sane is that humor as seen in western culture for the past 1000 years is different than the humor before that, and that modern humor is the real humor and older humor doesn't count and is something different. Christianity was obviously the cause of humor as we know it.

He does an absolutely horrible job at debating this, not to mention how ridiculous the entire argument is to begin with.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

I like how he files the humor issue under "mysteries or unresolved issues about World History" but defends his idea tooth and nail, constantly redefining the problem in order to suit his desired answer.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

I was just wondering, are there any living scientists that conservapedia admires? I'm genuinely curious. It seems there would be at least one scientist nutty enough to be approved by them. My quick 30 second search though didn't reveal anything.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

I remember checking their article on Kent Hovind once, even they don't like him. :psyduck: Their Michael Behe article seems pretty positive, but in a dry factual way. The whole thing is about how he's done a lot of anti-evolution work but it doesn't exactly shower him in praise.

I found this though http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolutionists_who_have_had_problems_with_being_overweight_and/or_obese I love how these articles always just start with a really small list of examples, in this case six whole people, and in their picture they use of PZ Meyers he doesn't even look that fat. But this is enough evidence to directly link athiesm to obesity.

Then there's also this longer article http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mental_and_Physical_Health I only skimmed it but the beginning section about suicide is pretty disgusting. Yeah so people who are depressed and suicidal tend to have lost their faith, that's common sense/knowledge and is really sad. Shlafly, however, doesn't feel bad for them and sees their suffering as an opportunity to discuss why people like that are evil.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Listerine posted:

I don't know, this looks like a pretty prestigious place.

My favorite from the section on Hovind:

Haha I love the pictures in that article. It's like a mug shot.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

I think Conservapedia is the only site that I've been tempted to troll/vandalize. Just find any article and insert the word "liberal" into every other sentence. It's too easy. I never bothered actually do it though.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Have the folks at rationalwiki or wherever compiled a chart showing the ratio of pro-conservative articles vs anti-liberal articles?

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Choronzons son posted:

This is from their Cartoon page:



It's either the dumbest or the most genius thing ever. Or both. I can't tell.
I mentioned this before, but it continues to boggle me that they demonize hippies so much. When was the last time anyone ever cared about hippies?

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Stalingrad posted:

All this...and he's a Catholic.
Seriously can someone make a list of all the Things Andy thinks that go against Catholic dogma, because I'm pretty sure he's committed a few heresy's.

This is craziest thing for me. I was raised Catholic and the stuff he says definitely wouldn't fly in the Catholic church. I have to wonder, is his local pastor cool with him rewriting the Bible?

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 13, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Stalingrad posted:

Remember Andy teaches children, and he teaches them things like this:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Rules_of_Chivalry_for_Students


The most :psyduck: bit has to be the god drat cookies thing...

This is actually kind of cute, in a "PSA from the 40s" kind of way.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Checking their news list sometimes brings up some weird stuff.

quote:

A faint but irritating noise is disrupting a small town, as it did in the 1970s elsewhere: "Tiny village is latest victim of the 'The hum.'" [14]Add this to the enormous list of things atheism cannot explain.
It links here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8566281/Tiny-village-is-latest-victim-of-the-The-hum.html So what are they saying, that Christianity can explain it? Is God humming to these people?

And this sentence just doesn't make any sense whatsoever

quote:

When it comes to Sarah Palin, the majority of liberals are guilty of being Anti-American.
What is this supposed to mean? I don't even know what they're trying to communicate, other than that they hate liberals. I feel like they must have left a word out somewhere.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Stalingrad posted:

Does Andy even know what global warming is, like, at all? :psyduck:

Haha this is amazing. As far as he knows global warming is just a catchphrase and unless what he's reading explicitly uses that term the he has no idea what it's talking about.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Slyph posted:

loving Liberals calling the Wounded Knee Massacre a Massacre
They go into detail explaining how just a handful of soldiers killed a 150 women and children, and then they get mad at anyone who says it's a massacre. That's even more bizarre than if they had just decided to rewrite the history to make the US look like the good guys in the first place.

Add this to my list of "things I didn't know liberals did until Conservapedia told me."

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Roger Ebert's semi-review is also really good http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/12/win_ben_steins_mind.html

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Perestroika posted:

I love their premise that if evolution can't explain x, the whole theory would suddenly become void. And then they don't see that you can turn that reasoning on its head and claim that the bible is disproven because you can find at least one contradiction in it.
You've forgotten one critical detail, there are no Counterexamples to the Bible.

(Edit: does "counterexamples to the bible" sound weird to anyone else? It's almost like saying "counterexamples to the US constitution." I know what they're trying to say, but I think they picked the wrong word.)

tankadillo fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jun 25, 2011

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

ShadowCatboy posted:

Yeah this is what I notice about Schlafly's rebuttals as well. When his rebuttals happen to contain facts, the facts given usually have nothing to do with the core of the original objection. Either he doesn't recognize he's just tossing out red herrings, or he's only in it to win arguments, not determine truth.
Is it just me or does he never admit he was wrong, ever? Even about things that don't matter? He's obsessed with being right about everything. I wonder if his confrontational personality carries over when people talk to him in person.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Of course the Founders were anti-evolution, just like Jesus was anti-obamacare. It's all written clearly in the Constitution/Bible! :pseudo:

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

DemeaninDemon posted:

On their 2012 presidential election page, they have a table of potential candidates.

The republican candidates have pros, cons, and recent media trends with them. For the democrats, the media trends column is replaced by their MSNBC standing. It wouldn't be as bad if the GOP section had a Fox-tracker but no it doesn't. Also still counts Donald Trump as one with "He said he wasn't going to run" as one of his cons.
I just looked at it and scrolled down to Sarah Palin. The first con is "It's difficult to take seriously someone who relies so heavily on Facebook; even liberal Hollywood preferred The King's Speech at the Oscars." What? Was the second half of this sentence copied and pasted from a different article? The only way I can possibly explain what it's saying is by guessing they're referring to The Social Network, but even then the thought just doesn't make any sense at all. This is how I feel whenever I read half the stuff on this site, just random words that don't add up to any complete thought.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Binowru posted:

http://conservapedia.com/Worst_College_Majors

Conservapedia's list of the "Worst College Majors." My own major, Journalism, comes in at 18. Surprisingly, evolutionary biology is 15, not even cracking the top ten. Try to guess what Number 1 is.
I'm pretty surprised that the degree I'm pursuing, teaching, isn't on the list, considering how much Schlafly hates public schools and all.

I'd like to see their list of "best" or "most conservative" college majors, or is Schlafly just anti-college in general on the basis that they're all liberal?

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

Dreamlogic posted:

I love the talk pages because fairly often you find someone who sees through Schlafly's bullying, and then you get to watch him flail around for a bit. From the "worst college majors" talk page:


One point for Irene.
I wonder how many normal level-headed conservative people have stumbled into the site, thought that a conservative encylopedia might be a good idea, looked around and saw the obvious insanity, tried to help, and got run out.

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tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

RagnarokAngel posted:

Pretty sure it couldn't. Selection process specifically forbids asking political ideologies and religion to stop that kind of biases doesnt it?
But you're forgetting that conservatives are always attractive blonde males who wear white and always do the right thing and liberals are minorities with angry eyebrows who wear black. It's extremely easy to identify either one at a glance!

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