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What, no Shadow talk? I thought those were superior tacticality for operational operators. No? Or different application?
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 15:26 |
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quote:Option 1: CZ85 Combat. Option 3. Start small and grow from there. Also as the owner of 1 CZ75BD and 2 BHPs, CZ75s have better triggers. I like resets.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 15:54 |
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BadgerMan45 posted:I vote SAO, I converted my 75B to SAO, installed a comp hammer, and yoinked the FPS. The trigger is ridiculously nice now, like 1911 nice. Unfortunately, I think you have to leave the FPS in for IDPA since it came with one. As far as the FPS is concerned, it really only makes sense to pull it if you have a trigger with pretravel adjustment because then you can cut it down to pretty much nothing and have a really short reset. I think the SAO also has the ledge safety and beavertail as well. Did you do the trigger and hammer yourself? How difficult was it? If I could do either or both on my own, that would save me a couple of bucks and make my choice easier. Ive pretty much eliminated the 85 as an option - the lack of a FPB isn't worth $125 to me, unless someone chimes in otherwise. I do have another option though, I think: supposedly, late model pre-B have near total parts compatibility with B models. If so, i can buy a non-FSB gun on the cheap, and yet not have to worry about future parts availability problems or finding magazines for cheap.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 16:28 |
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Drav posted:What, no Shadow talk? I thought those were superior tacticality for operational operators. No? Or different application? Shadows are pretty much built to rock the IPSC production division iirc (and they do) Dunno if operating operators want fibre optic front sights?
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 17:30 |
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What exactly is the difference between the base SP-01, the Shadow and the Tactical?
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 17:37 |
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SP-01: Safety SP-01 Tactical: Decocker Shadow: Safety with FPB removed, fibre optic front sight, novak rear sight, weaker recoil spring probably a few other minor diffs too.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 17:44 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Did you do the trigger and hammer yourself? How difficult was it? If I could do either or both on my own, that would save me a couple of bucks and make my choice easier. The hammer was drop in for me, and not too difficult to swap. I did have to buy a new hammer strut (and if you don't go SAO you might want to pick up the disconnector as well) because they staked the poo poo out of pins holding the three parts together so it was easier just to buy new ones for a couple bucks. The only hard part about swapping the trigger was trying to get the new pin in and keep the trigger properly positioned while fighting the trigger return spring, I was able to finagle it after a while but it was frustrating for a bit there. Definitely use some sort of slave pin to get it all lined up as that makes it easier. If you decided to stay DA/SA I would still recommend the comp hammer because it is a pretty noticeable improvement over the stock hammer. If you decide to go the pre-b route, you can still buy pre-b sears and such from CZ and a lot of the other parts will work in both so keeping one running wouldn't be too difficult and you will have an awesome rounded trigger guard. I actually picked up a pre-b sear to replace my old one in order to run the gun w/out the FPB (you can also modify the spacer that actuates the FPB but I like to keep stock parts in original condition in case I want to go back to them in the future).
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 18:03 |
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DakianDelomast posted:Also as the owner of 1 CZ75BD and 2 BHPs, CZ75s have better triggers. I like resets. Yeah, the BHP *CAN* have a great trigger, but stock BHP trigger pulls are often pretty bad.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 18:04 |
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sean10mm posted:Yeah, the BHP *CAN* have a great trigger, but stock BHP trigger pulls are often pretty bad. I wasn't super impressed with the trigger on the few BHPs ive fired either.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 18:07 |
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Is the Shadow really $1200?
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 19:24 |
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Drav posted:Is the Shadow really $1200? What? No way. It can be had for $760 in Canada even.
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| # ? Jun 23, 2011 19:26 |
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I am torn if I want to get SAO done on my SP-01 or just have the trigger cleaned up. Does anyone know what exactly can be done to it and still be USPSA production legal? For some reason I shoot production much better than limited but it would be a good excuse to practice and get better to keep up with the competition in limited.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 00:50 |
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Well the Shadow on CZ's website is $1k and I don't see them for sale on any of the usual sites like Bud's. Where exactly do you buy a Shadow anyway?
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 01:59 |
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Drav posted:Well the Shadow on CZ's website is $1k and I don't see them for sale on any of the usual sites like Bud's. Where exactly do you buy a Shadow anyway? Check out CZ-Custom - iirc, they are $880 for the standard DA/SA model.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 02:02 |
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That's weird, they're fairly common in stores in Canada. $1k seems like a lot, although I guess that is msrp? I shot one at a rental range and it's my next pistol purchase for sure.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 02:03 |
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Drav posted:Well the Shadow on CZ's website is $1k and I don't see them for sale on any of the usual sites like Bud's. Where exactly do you buy a Shadow anyway? You should double czech, you probably saw the Shadow Target and not the regular shadow. The shadow Target goes for like $1300 while the shadow goes for $800. (how could you not use the pun...)
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 02:28 |
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http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-SP01-SHADOW-PolyCoat-9mm.aspx FFFFF I want one so bad it hurts. I just can't bear to think of spending all of my gun funds for the next year in one place.  edit: huh. The Shadows have a wider hammer, which makes them incompatible with Kadet kits. IuniusBrutus fucked around with this message at Jun 24, 2011 around 02:37 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-SP01-SHADOW-PolyCoat-9mm.aspx That is strange. I have a friend who has the kadet kit and uses it on the shadow he owns.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 11:20 |
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Figuring out what the Kadet kit will work with can be kinda a pain.CZ USA posted:For the use with pistols bearing designation as the CZ 75 SP-01, CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical and CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow the conversion kit requires some adaptations to be made by a competent gunsmith. Unfortunately it supposedly does not work at all with the Phantom
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 16:52 |
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Double post because I was poking around the CZ site. If you haven't, check out their engraving section:  Runs the gamut from tasteful to "uh... really?" (in my opinion, anyway) Edit: DINOSAUR GUN. 
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 16:57 |
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That dinosaur looks like it's having trouble taking a poo poo. I'm sure they could have done better. Besides, wouldn't you want a predatory dinosaur engraved on your weapon's grip rather than a little bitch herbivore?!
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 18:05 |
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Ophidian posted:I hunt with my cz550 full stock in 6.5x55. Next time there is some decent sun out I am going to take some new pictures of it... It is the only gun I own anymore since moving back to new jersey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN253RLDdM8
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 18:31 |
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Giant Isopod posted:
It's no Larry Flynt Edition, but minus the gold controls this is hot. Even better if they can do grips with petrified wood inlay.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 18:34 |
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SweetJuicyTaco posted:That dinosaur looks like it's having trouble taking a poo poo. I'm sure they could have done better. Besides, wouldn't you want a predatory dinosaur engraved on your weapon's grip rather than a little bitch herbivore?! Not only is it a little bitch herbivore, it doesn't even have the badass horns like its triceratops cousin or the completely  styracosaurus.
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| # ? Jun 24, 2011 18:37 |
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Ok, so the local store has a CZ75B in the satin nickle with three magazines in excellent condition for $425. It's on consignment too, so I think I get away with no sales tax...pull the trigger on it or no?
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| # ? Jun 25, 2011 00:51 |
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I asked earlier but I did some more research. I have a 75 Omega and I'm trying to get a Kadet kit, but allegedly they don't work with omega frames. Floating around on the internet there appears to be a Kadet/Omega adaptor, I even found a CZUSA SKU (01611) but there is no mention on the official site. Anyone seen/know about this? I'm also having trouble finding out how to modify them to work together if that is indeed my only alternative?
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| # ? Jun 25, 2011 04:33 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Ok, so the local store has a CZ75B in the satin nickle with three magazines in excellent condition for $425. It's on consignment too, so I think I get away with no sales tax...pull the trigger on it or no? I would.
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IuniusBrutus posted:Ok, so the local store has a CZ75B in the satin nickle with three magazines in excellent condition for $425. It's on consignment too, so I think I get away with no sales tax...pull the trigger on it or no? If you want one, I say go for it.
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| # ? Jun 25, 2011 11:49 |
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Only thing that concerns me is that it comes with 2 10 rounds ban mags, which means its likely at least 6 or 7 years old, and thus out of warranty. This normally wouldn't bother me, but since I'd honestly rather have the black than nickle finish, even after transfer fees, I can get a new 75 for only 70 bucks more.
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IuniusBrutus posted:Only thing that concerns me is that it comes with 2 10 rounds ban mags, which means its likely at least 6 or 7 years old, and thus out of warranty. I think you answered your own question. The CZ warranty is pretty limited anyways and I don't know if it covers used guns.
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| # ? Jun 25, 2011 15:25 |
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I decided to pass on the 75. I was settling for a gun, simply because I could find it in a store. I went to a different gun shop, however, and fondled some other things. Shot a Beretta 92FS, which I actually really liked, and will probably pick one up some day. This shop has a goodly selection of CZs, so I played with some of them. Decided I need to get an alloy RAMI soon, and also discovered that although the extended beaver tail of the SP-series CZs are nice, its not a huge difference for me. The guy also made me fondle a FNP-9, which was neat, and a Sig P226 Elite which was absolutely amazing (which surprised me, since I don't normally like 226s), but a bit out of my price range. It was all for naught though, since I just spent too much money on this:  It was only a bit cheaper than I could get a new 85 for at the shop or from CZ-Custom, but already has new sights installed, resprung, and the CZ-Custom comp hammer, which essentially made it exactly what I wanted. Fairly low round count <1000 and supposedly has a fantastic trigger. This is my first GB gun purchase, here's to hoping it turns out well!
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 03:05 |
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Sweet lookin CZ85! Two tones are cool. I handled a couple SP-01s on the weekend and it's just redoubled my desire to get one, although now I have to decide between the SP-01 Tactical or the Shadow.. Probably the Shadow but I kinda like decockers for some weird reason. Plus night sights are neat. Also checked out the Tactical Sport but that's a bit too spendy, really nice though. Going for the "poor man's X5" market segment. priznat fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2011 around 03:33 |
| # ? Jun 27, 2011 03:30 |
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Is it just me, or does CZ not make any left-handed 550s except for that .375H&H?
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 04:26 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Only thing that concerns me is that it comes with 2 10 rounds ban mags, which means its likely at least 6 or 7 years old, and thus out of warranty. Not that it matters anymore, but I picked up mine with ban mags and it was 2010 production so that may not mean anything. Congrats on the nice new pistola.
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 15:11 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:I decided to pass on the 75. I was settling for a gun, simply because I could find it in a store. I went to a different gun shop, however, and fondled some other things. Shot a Beretta 92FS, which I actually really liked, and will probably pick one up some day. This shop has a goodly selection of CZs, so I played with some of them. Decided I need to get an alloy RAMI soon, and also discovered that although the extended beaver tail of the SP-series CZs are nice, its not a huge difference for me. Aside from your 85 being a two tone we have identical guns 
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 16:04 |
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This is the picture that started it all. I think it belongs to Scope. Shortly afterwards I bought a CZ-75.  I got a great deal on a new kadet kit for $230 and sent it to Scope to thread. The KN Nill wood grips aren't cheap but they feel and look great. It stayed in this configuration for a number of years until I finally got around to seriously looking into getting a suppressor.  While I waited for my stamp from the ATF I sent my CZ to CZ Custom Shop to convert it to SAO (along with target hammer and trigger) and to clean up the action. 
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 22:58 |
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Jager posted:This is the picture that started it all. I think it belongs to Scope. Tell me more about your CZ-Custom experience. Namely, how does the SAO conversion feel for you? Also, where did you get your grips from?
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 23:00 |
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Shadow 4 Lyfe! Get one and you'll never regret it. Eats recoil like crazy. http://youtu.be/H0e0p-qUr-s?hd=1 Northwest Challenge level 2 match this weekend. Looking forward to it!
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| # ? Jul 14, 2011 04:26 |
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I've tried a friend's Shadow and it is fantastic. Watching that video, is it common to rest your thumb on the safety like that? I found that if I didn't, I would accidentally tap the safety and the gun wouldn't fire, but if I rested my thumb on it, I had no problems.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2011 11:11 |
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DAVE!!!(c)(tm) posted:
So, did Gunsmith Cats motivate you to buy a CZ-75 or did the gun make you interested in the comic? 
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