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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Cocks Cable posted:

I have to buy a new phone today. What is the consensus on the top android phones currently out? I was looking at the RAZR Maxx but didn't want to pass up other considerations.
The Galaxy Nexus is the best Android phone out right now. The only phone that runs Android 4.0, will always have the latest updates, and pretty much matches the Razr Maxx in hardware except the camera.

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Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
I wish it would hurry up and get 4.0.5 or whatever though. :negative:

stormrider
Sep 18, 2003

Absolut Awful
I haven't seen a Nexus in person yet. How does its screen compare to the droid x? Am I going to miss the extra real estate?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

stormrider posted:

I haven't seen a Nexus in person yet. How does its screen compare to the droid x? Am I going to miss the extra real estate?

The nexus has a bigger display and higher resolution than the droid X.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

stormrider posted:

I haven't seen a Nexus in person yet. How does its screen compare to the droid x? Am I going to miss the extra real estate?

Considering your getting more screen probably not. I think when you include the on screen buttons it comes out to about 4.3 inches, 4.65 inch screen size though. Also the Gnex screen will make your DX screen look like babby's first smartphone screen.

stormrider
Sep 18, 2003

Absolut Awful

Codiusprime posted:

Considering your getting more screen probably not. I think when you include the on screen buttons it comes out to about 4.3 inches, 4.65 inch screen size though. Also the Gnex screen will make your DX screen look like babby's first smartphone screen.

Awesome, I thought it was slightly smaller for some reason

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
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stormrider posted:

I haven't seen a Nexus in person yet. How does its screen compare to the droid x? Am I going to miss the extra real estate?

I made the same switch you're about to. The Nexus is a lot bigger. I've got large hands and it's the upper limit in terms of size for what I would use. The screen is nicer, but coming from the X you will probably notice the PenTile display. It took me a bit before I could ignore it, and I can still see it sometimes.

I keep my X around the house for doing whatever and I think that 4.3" is pretty much the perfect screen size. The hardware button placement on the Nexus mess you up for a while. I still find myself feeling around for a power button at the top of the device. Due to the lack of hardware buttons, I'll occasionally find myself holding it upside-down and wondering why the display isn't moving from landscape.

Go try one in the store.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Go try one in the store.

This is really the best advice though, you might find that another phone suits your needs better.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Auron posted:

The Galaxy Nexus is the best Android phone out right now. The only phone that runs Android 4.0, will always have the latest updates, and pretty much matches the Razr Maxx in hardware except the camera.

And battery life.

That's probably a very key thing. He called Verizon ranting about bad battery life so they offered him a MAXX. If he says "you know, I would rather have a galaxy nexus instead," they may think he was just fishing for a new phone.

Edit: Looks like this response was to a different person. Whoops.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 15, 2012

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

I made the same switch you're about to. The Nexus is a lot bigger. I've got large hands and it's the upper limit in terms of size for what I would use. The screen is nicer, but coming from the X you will probably notice the PenTile display. It took me a bit before I could ignore it, and I can still see it sometimes.

On the opposite side of this, if you have small hands then you may hate it. I had a Bionic for a week until I couldn't stand having to constantly adjust my hand position on the phone just to reach all corners of the screen. Loved the phone but I think anything over 4" is too big for my thumb to reach.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

There's been a lot of discussion in the Android thread about how the Droid 4 has a really terrible screen. Go check one out at a store before you buy one.

I guess my eyes just suck, because I don't see it. :smith:

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

Kyrosiris posted:

I guess my eyes just suck, because I don't see it. :smith:

Don't worry about your eyes bro you've just been blinded by that sexy sexy keyboard.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
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Kyrosiris posted:

I guess my eyes just suck, because I don't see it. :smith:

My vision isn't that great. It's most apparent when looking at solid white or gray.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Codiusprime posted:

Don't worry about your eyes bro you've just been blinded by that sexy sexy keyboard.

Oh gods, it's such a good keyboard, too. :swoon:

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

My vision isn't that great. It's most apparent when looking at solid white or gray.

Yeah, I can see the sorta hatched effect on pure solid white, but that's it.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Codiusprime posted:

Unless you absolutely have to have a feature that is specific to the Razr you should get the GNex.

I'm pretty sure he wanted good battery life out of an android smartphone, which would be one of the Razr MAXX's features.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

I'm pretty sure he wanted good battery life out of an android smartphone, which would be one of the Razr MAXX's features.

Yea I didn't realize that was him, if battery life is a requirement then you can't really beat the Maxx. Good phone with pretty stellar battery life.

iceyman
Jul 11, 2001

Isn't RAZR suppose to get ice cream sandwhich soon anyways? Why is having ICS right now on the Nexus so much more important?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Cocks Cable posted:

Isn't RAZR suppose to get ice cream sandwhich soon anyways? Why is having ICS right now on the Nexus so much more important?

Its the only one guaranteed to have Ice Cream Sandwich because it already has it.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Also it will almost certainly get whatever the next big version of Android is. There's no promises a Droid RAZR Maxx will.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

Cocks Cable posted:

Isn't RAZR suppose to get ice cream sandwhich soon anyways? Why is having ICS right now on the Nexus so much more important?

Soon is optimistic. In addition to what everyone else said.

Edit: Just went in to the Verizon store to replace my GNex and I got overnight shipping without asking or paying. I remember us having a discussion about that a while ago.

Codiusprime fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 15, 2012

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Yeah, the Moto ICS timeline lists the international RAZR as due for ICS in Q2, while the Verizon RAZR is still "in evaluation and planning." The good news is that the Verizon RAZR and MAXX apparently run identical software, so if/when Moto decides to grace the LTE versions with ICS, it should be available for both at the same time. Whenever that ends up being.

Anyway, uh, I hear Samsung sucks at updating their phones.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Penguissimo posted:

Yeah, the Moto ICS timeline lists the international RAZR as due for ICS in Q2, while the Verizon RAZR is still "in evaluation and planning." The good news is that the Verizon RAZR and MAXX apparently run identical software, so if/when Moto decides to grace the LTE versions with ICS, it should be available for both at the same time. Whenever that ends up being.

Anyway, uh, I hear Samsung sucks at updating their phones.

Unless they are using the same chipset then I wouldn't count on that at all.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Don Lapre posted:

Unless they are using the same chipset then I wouldn't count on that at all.
The reports I've read say that it's literally the exact same phone with a bigger battery and back case.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Penguissimo posted:

The reports I've read say that it's literally the exact same phone with a bigger battery and back case.

The International razr is a GSM/UMTS product. So its going to have a completely different chipset than the verizon razr/maxx. Dont count on Ice Cream Sandwich to come out at the same time or have anything to do with each other.

edit: ohh i see what you meant, yea the Verizon razr and maxx are both the same device pretty much. But Q2 for the international means nothing to the Verizon version.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Don Lapre posted:

The International razr is a GSM/UMTS product. So its going to have a completely different chipset than the verizon razr/maxx. Dont count on Ice Cream Sandwich to come out at the same time or have anything to do with each other.

edit: ohh i see what you meant, yea the Verizon razr and maxx are both the same device pretty much. But Q2 for the international means nothing to the Verizon version.

The Razr uses the MDM6600 CDMA/GSM chipset like the iPhone so it's very likely the international version is exactly the same radio chipset as the Verizon one. The only difference in the Verizon one is the LTE addition grafted on.

Droid3/Bionic/Razr/Razr MAXX/Droid4 are all essentially the same handset. Droid3 is the only odd one out with half the amount of ram and no LTE.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Mar 15, 2012

DeceasedHorse
Nov 11, 2005
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beejay
Apr 7, 2002

I was all set to pull the trigger on an iPhone 4S today because it's the first day I'm eligible for an upgrade and my Incredible has been generally making GBS threads itself for a couple months now. However, the reps at the Verizon store said my area will have 4G service by the end of the year. How much would I be kicking myself if I went ahead and got the 4S? How much better is 4G than 3G I guess would be the question. I'd like to know from real people rather than the salesperson.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Don Lapre posted:

The International razr is a GSM/UMTS product. So its going to have a completely different chipset than the verizon razr/maxx. Dont count on Ice Cream Sandwich to come out at the same time or have anything to do with each other.

edit: ohh i see what you meant, yea the Verizon razr and maxx are both the same device pretty much. But Q2 for the international means nothing to the Verizon version.

Yeah, my point was that the GSM version was scheduled for an update, while the LTE was still pending evaluation, but once that evaluation is over, there won't be a dichotomy between the RAZR and the MAXX.

edit: To clarify, we can treat the VZW RAZR and MAXX as one device for update-watching purposes. And we have no idea when that'll be, since the GSM RAZR has a tentative timeline while the LTE phones do not.

Penguissimo fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 16, 2012

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS

beejay posted:

I was all set to pull the trigger on an iPhone 4S today because it's the first day I'm eligible for an upgrade and my Incredible has been generally making GBS threads itself for a couple months now. However, the reps at the Verizon store said my area will have 4G service by the end of the year. How much would I be kicking myself if I went ahead and got the 4S? How much better is 4G than 3G I guess would be the question. I'd like to know from real people rather than the salesperson.

My first day on 4G I saw a download speed of 25 and up of 10. So, basically, if you like internet, DO NOT stay on 3G.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

beejay posted:

I was all set to pull the trigger on an iPhone 4S today because it's the first day I'm eligible for an upgrade and my Incredible has been generally making GBS threads itself for a couple months now. However, the reps at the Verizon store said my area will have 4G service by the end of the year. How much would I be kicking myself if I went ahead and got the 4S? How much better is 4G than 3G I guess would be the question. I'd like to know from real people rather than the salesperson.

I really like how fast 4G is but I really don't like how bad it wears on batteries. Chances are the next iPhone will be 4G.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

beejay posted:

I was all set to pull the trigger on an iPhone 4S today because it's the first day I'm eligible for an upgrade and my Incredible has been generally making GBS threads itself for a couple months now. However, the reps at the Verizon store said my area will have 4G service by the end of the year. How much would I be kicking myself if I went ahead and got the 4S? How much better is 4G than 3G I guess would be the question. I'd like to know from real people rather than the salesperson.

Its better than wifi.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)

beejay posted:

I was all set to pull the trigger on an iPhone 4S today because it's the first day I'm eligible for an upgrade and my Incredible has been generally making GBS threads itself for a couple months now. However, the reps at the Verizon store said my area will have 4G service by the end of the year. How much would I be kicking myself if I went ahead and got the 4S? How much better is 4G than 3G I guess would be the question. I'd like to know from real people rather than the salesperson.

Get a 4S and case, sell it for 80% of msrp a week before the next iPhone is out and buy it unsubsidized. Or a 4G phone if you really want went 3G hits your area.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

Get a 4S and case, sell it for 80% of msrp a week before the next iPhone is out and buy it unsubsidized.

I thought about this when buying a 4S but I couldn't help but think the resale value of a Verizon 4S would drop a fair bit when an LTE model comes out.

An AT&T model wouldn't really have this problem because the HSPA+ is still decently fast. But assuming they can hit it out of the park with regard to battery life in an LTE iPhone the way they have with the LTE iPad, I dunno why you'd spend $480 on a used EVDO 4S when $120 more would get you something that would smoke it.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

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kitten smoothie posted:

I thought about this when buying a 4S but I couldn't help but think the resale value of a Verizon 4S would drop a fair bit when an LTE model comes out.

An AT&T model wouldn't really have this problem because the HSPA+ is still decently fast. But assuming they can hit it out of the park with regard to battery life in an LTE iPhone the way they have with the LTE iPad, I dunno why you'd spend $480 on a used EVDO 4S when $120 more would get you something that would smoke it.

Sell on Amazon, people are stunningly uninformed.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

kitten smoothie posted:

I thought about this when buying a 4S but I couldn't help but think the resale value of a Verizon 4S would drop a fair bit when an LTE model comes out.

An AT&T model wouldn't really have this problem because the HSPA+ is still decently fast. But assuming they can hit it out of the park with regard to battery life in an LTE iPhone the way they have with the LTE iPad, I dunno why you'd spend $480 on a used EVDO 4S when $120 more would get you something that would smoke it.

Apple didn't do anything amazing to get the same battery life on the LTE iPad, they just made the battery a shitload bigger.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...
^^ If that was the case, the Wifi version should've had a drastic increase in battery life. Sadly, I think 4G doesn't draw as much power as a 2048x1536 screen and a quad-core graphics chip.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Mark Larson posted:

^^ If that was the case, the Wifi version should've had a drastic increase in battery life. Sadly, I think 4G doesn't draw as much power as a 2048x1536 screen and a quad-core graphics chip.

They really did make it a shitload bigger.

It went from a 25Wh to 42Wh.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Mighty Horse posted:

Apple didn't do anything amazing to get the same battery life on the LTE iPad, they just made the battery a shitload bigger.

To be fair, they about doubled the size of the iPad's battery while only making the new model only an rear end hair thicker than the previous model, so I wouldn't put it past them to find better ways to cram a huge battery into the next phone.

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

kitten smoothie posted:

To be fair, they about doubled the size of the iPad's battery while only making the new model only an rear end hair thicker than the previous model, so I wouldn't put it past them to find better ways to cram a huge battery into the next phone.

In looking at the tiny logic board of the new iPad (iFixit teardown) the logic board of the LTE iPhone may just be the size of a nickel...the rest a battery.

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Optiquest
Feb 8, 2004

About to pull the trigger on 2 Verizon Galaxy Nexuses on amazonwireless. Any thoughts? Looking for texting/goodies of a smartphone; amazon has cheaper initial phone cost ($99 compared to $300); and looking at coverage maps Verizon seems to have the best overall in Texas?

Also, was planning on the "Verizon Wireless Nationwide Voice and Messaging Family Share 700" plan with "Total Equipment Coverage for Feature and Advanced Devices" x2. AND 4GB Smartphone Web Browsing and Email (2GB Free) x2

Optiquest fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Mar 16, 2012

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