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Pompous Rhombus posted:Mosquitoes are poor fliers, if you have a fan going they'll generally leave you alone. My standard MO in Southeast Asia was fan all the way up, sleep under a sheet. Yeah, just get used to sleeping with a fan blowing on you. Once I figured this out I got very few bites
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The Radix posted:The mosquitoes here are mostly the silent type. I'd take a couple bites over ZZZAP MOTHERFUCKING BANG all night. And this is generally the thing that keeps me in high-rises. It's tempting to just sell and snatch up a lower place that comes with a terrace, or move out a bit further and trade for a half-decent villa (and dump more money into property in the process), but the trade-off for parking ease and fewer annoying neighbors is that you get mosquitoes out the rear end. Once you hit 10th floor and above if a mosquito somehow actually manages to get in, you just have to respect the lengths it went to get there.
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Also, if you have AC, mosquitos wont bother you if you set the temperature to 20C or lower.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:And this is generally the thing that keeps me in high-rises. Doesn't always help though, I had one place in GZ where I was on the 35th and the mozzies were still brutal somehow.
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I go balls to the wall with the mosquitos. I have the spray poo poo that I use on myself that keeps them away, I then plug in one of those things that supposedly emits something that keeps them away, and then I sleep with a fan blowing on me. A few times last summer they buzzed by my ear at 3 in the morning, I'd wake up and not be able to find the little poo poo, keeping me awake for an hour or so. NEVER AGAIN. Also, great OP, sb. Thanks for doing it.
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goldboilermark posted:I go balls to the wall with the mosquitos. I have the spray poo poo that I use on myself that keeps them away, I then plug in one of those things that supposedly emits something that keeps them away, and then I sleep with a fan blowing on me. A few times last summer they buzzed by my ear at 3 in the morning, I'd wake up and not be able to find the little poo poo, keeping me awake for an hour or so. NEVER AGAIN. Yeah I agree with you, gently caress getting bitten by a mosquito here. I go nuts and have two or three of those liquid things plugged in 24/7 and have fly screens EVERYWHERE. I have only gotten bitten once and that was outside. Turned into a massive red lump the size of which I have never seen. Avoid those bastards. Anywho, this thread is awesome. For the record I am in Fuzhou, Fujian
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I use one of those plug-in things that attaches to a small bottle of mosquito repellant in my bedroom. You can't smell it, and mosquitos don't come into my bedroom when I turn it on. Maybe it's some sort of horrible chemical poo poo, though. Don't use those mosquito repellant incense coils - somebody did a study a few years ago and they are apparently seriously carcinogenic.
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A few things to add to the OP. Totally forgot about socks in the packing list. You know those nice Hanes or whatever bag-o-socks that you pick up in the US for a few bucks (which are made in China)? Ya, they don't exist here. Bring some, your feet will thank you first, your wallet second because while your socks will find a way of existing here, it ain't gonna be cheap. Shoes have gotten pretty easy now at least in Beijing and I'm willing to bet Guangzhou even more so. If you like those toe shoes, the legit stuff is hard to get and Euro-priced, the fake stuff is everywhere and you'll regret it quickly, so buy ahead of time. The universal power outlet, I have only really seen that in Shanghai. Shamelessly stolen from wiki, but here's the standard in China:  A,C,I plugs work on 220/50, the universals are more commonly seen on power strips. And now for 2 random items that you'll love having on hand just because. 1) Sourdough bread starter. You will NOT find it here anywhere, it'll last you forever unless you manage to kill it and it's basically the only way you will get sourdough anything in China. 2) 13 gallon tall kitchen trash bags with that drawstring. You can quite easily (on taobao) get the can to go with it for dirt cheap. Bags generally come in 2 sizes here, tiny and useless or massive. All of them are flimsy as gently caress and love to leak the instant they get the opportunity to do so. Other food stuff: Another thing to consider dragging along is bullion cubes. You can get the little pellets here all day long for mushroom and chicken, beef is a little harder to find, but it's here. But a stash of Wyler's is a godsend when that's all you really want. Vanilla is also on that list. You can get it, but it's not cheap here, spend the cash, get a big bottle of the pure extract, not the imitation crap. Real coffee and a french press are also good to bring and rather compact... seriously, spend the money, get stuff you love and bring it. Beef jerky... we have it here, but it's not the same. If you are meat shopping in general here, get your stuff from the local market and hit up the halal shop, they keep their poo poo clean and you won't be making GBS threads water from it later. Beijing Note: gently caress Jenny Lou's (for many reasons that would take too long to delve into), don't even bother to go there, this is not 2004 and there are much better options for your cravings that are fresher and cheaper (with the possible exception of pickles). If you live near the CBD, go to 东郊菜市场 for produce and 三源里菜市场 for basically everything else. Supermarkets: Metro, 欧尚, Centurymart and BHG are the places to go to. Walmart, 京客隆 and Tesco are so-so, 家乐福 will more likely than not result in you killing people given the opportunity. Meds that generally need a script in the US and other places, technically need one here as well. There are many ways around this however. Yaofang.cn lets you get most of it online in Beijing for cheap. In person, if you are around 五道口, there's a great pharmacy across from 清华科技园 that'll give you basically anything. Fake meds are an issue in China, always check the code number and investigate any website you buy from if you do it online. I guess most of this post is directed towards those coming here long-term, but pick it apart as you will 
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quote:家乐福 will more likely than not result in you killing people given the opportunity. I cannot agree with this enough. If it's between going to Carrefour or not having something to eat for breakfast tomorrow, I usually just opt to skip breakfast.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Real coffee and a french press are also good to bring and rather compact... seriously, spend the money, get stuff you love and bring it. Agreed with this, although you can find okay french presses around. But if you stick with buying Chinese coffee for any amount of time you'll start to think Starbucks store-sold beans taste good.
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What's the best way to get into Metro? I thought Chinese Metro wasn't for individuals?
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Dilber posted:What's the best way to get into Metro? I thought Chinese Metro wasn't for individuals? Anyone can go there, there is no limitation, most everything is sold in large containers and bulk though... but it's usually pretty damned cheap and you can grab up stuff that is actually quality without paying out the rear end for it. global tetrahedron posted:Agreed with this, although you can find okay french presses around. But if you stick with buying Chinese coffee for any amount of time you'll start to think Starbucks store-sold beans taste good. This is touchy for me. There's a difference between "okay" and "trouble free". To me, the whole point of good coffee is to be able to sit back for a few minutes and not have to deal with poo poo. Same reason I brought a bunch of my own kitchen tools, such as a nice simple basic can opener, nut cracker with picks, etc... things that while available here, you will hunt forever to track down and still probably end up with something that lasts a week till it inevitably fails. Save yourself the grief and agony... even better is that when chinese friends see it and how it actually works and does not shatter into a million useless pieces, they'll want one (and it's really damned cheap for useful gifts then)
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People in Beijing we've got events lined up you might be interested in attending; 27th May (Friday) - We're playing at Siif, our long standing residency, with guest DJ Harikiri from Basskake. There's no entry fee and we've negotiated good drink deals (10RMB beers / 20RMB cocktails). 10PM @ Siif 67 Beiluoguxiang (off of Gulou Dongdajie). This is always a fun and relaxed crowd with nice regulars (and a few goons) - come and say hello. In the upcoming months we have; June 18th - a one day massive event of electronic bands & DJs. Ticketed. June 25th - dirty style electronic music in a filthy basement on Jinbao Jie with Huang Weiwei guest (early local DJ with the Yellow crew). Free entry + cheap drinks. July 8th - WDK mash-up party at Global. Ticketed 50RMB but cheap drinks. July 16th - A semi-private / public multi-day beach party outside of Beijing with guest DJs. Details pending. If you guys are interested in these sorts of things I can update the thread or put you onto a mailing list or something if you drop an email in the thread. Provided I'm not overwhelmed with requests, I'm happy to comp entry for people on the ticketed events.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Anyone can go there, there is no limitation, most everything is sold in large containers and bulk though... but it's usually pretty damned cheap and you can grab up stuff that is actually quality without paying out the rear end for it. Really? The metro near me you need a membership card to get in.
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Dilber posted:What's the best way to get into Metro? I thought Chinese Metro wasn't for individuals? You do need a card. But I've heard it's apparently very easy to get in with your passport or even get a membership with just a foreign passport. My school just gives us an "introduction letter" which gets me a membership card. However, I disagree with Pro-PRC, Metro ain't cheap. Of course, good stuff costs money, that's inevitable, but at Metro you're buying all imported items at the full MSRP prices and then some, if you can afford that then great, have at it. On a budget I like to get the hard-to-find items at Metro and the rest at the local 人人乐 or Vanguard. global tetrahedron posted:Agreed with this, although you can find okay french presses around. But if you stick with buying Chinese coffee for any amount of time you'll start to think Starbucks store-sold beans taste good. I got a french press and coffee grinder off of Taobao and they're holding up so far. Also found some decent coffee beans from Yunnan province, actually very nice, also on Taobao. I'll see if I can't find a link to the coffee... SB35 fucked around with this message at May 25, 2011 around 16:03 |
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SB35 posted:You do need a card. But I've heard it's apparently very easy to get in with your passport or even get a membership with just a foreign passport. My school just gives us an "introduction letter" which gets me a membership card. Dilber posted:Really? The metro near me you need a membership card to get in. Years ago... yes, you had to have a card to get in, and they even still have the signs. However the reality is if you have a card, the only benefit you will ever see out of it is being able to print up 发票 at the register. That's it.
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Niiiiiiiiiiice a new thread! Awesome job with the OP! I just got back from HK on a visa run. I found a great link that describes pretty much everything you'll go through. Its a bit outdated in terms of price (its 1350 HK dollars now) but its covered in the OP. http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shang...great-visa-run/ I think the link would be a great add to the OP! Thanks SB for the new thread! Also: RIP Macho Man Randy Savage
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AfroNinja posted:Niiiiiiiiiiice a new thread! Awesome job with the OP! I just got back from HK on a visa run. I found a great link that describes pretty much everything you'll go through. Its a bit outdated in terms of price (its 1350 HK dollars now) but its covered in the OP. The sinocidal guide was better... I miss sinocidal  LaoLao posted:
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Okay goons, So I've gotten to the point where I have purchased my tickets to Beijing for July 2nd, however I still do not have a job. I've been applying, however most places lose interest as soon as they learn I am not in Beijing yet. I'm super loving worried about the Visa situation, I only have a multi entry tourist visa (L) that expires on August 25th 2011. I've heard mixed reports about being able to change a L visa to a Z visa once you are in China without having to return to your home country. The last thread said you could change an L into a Z with a trip to Hong Kong/your employer just bribes the right people and you work on an L visa for a while... but mine is expiring Aug 25th. Anyone have any advise as to how to get these companies to talk to me even though I am not in Beijing yet? Also, any advice with the visa?
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There was a period from 2008-2010 where you could only get a Z visa in your home country, but they changed the rules again and you can get them in Hong Kong now. Don't work on an L visa. That's just stupid. If your employer doesn't at least get you the right visa (and pay for everything in the process) then they are shady and you will inevitably have problems with them in the future. Just go to Beijing, look for a job, then once you've been hired and have the documents go to HK on a visa run. It will take them at least a month to put together all the documents, so make sure you have a lot of money because you're going to spend 30-60 days hanging around with nothing to do. Generally the wiser thing to do is find a job before you go to China, but that's only really possible if you're an English teacher.
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Metro has a whole room dedicated to cheese. That's more or less why it's MY favorite supermarket. Also you definitely need a card for the one in HZ, when I went in the first time they hassled me a bunch for not having one.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:And now for 2 random items that you'll love having on hand just because. Sourdough isn't that hard to get started, but if you're looking to get some, I've got a culture that's doing just fine. I started it up a couple years ago and I'm happy to give some away. +1 on bouillon cubes, and while vanilla extract is pricey I think I've occasionally seen vanilla beans for cheap. As for the rest of the list, I've probably just been here too long but I don't think most of those things worth worrying about carrying here. I guess if you have both a large extra checked baggage capacity and a want to deal with hauling it, go for it.
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From the files of "Things I wish people told me when I got here" for Shanghai: Keep coins and small bills on hand. Not every store has change for your stack of newly exchanged 100RMB. Ripped bills are seldom accepted. Also counterfeiting is rampant, and people will try to take advantage of the F.O.B. Whitey, so feel the paper of the bill handed back to you. iTouch/pod Apps: Shanghai Taxi Guide- bought it for $10. Worth every cent! Esh- Shanghai metro/ street guide- better than the smart shanghai app. Food: You need to a barcode on everything to check out of the grocery store. They do not weigh your bananas at the register like they do in the West. In the produce area take your bag of potatoes first to one of the stations with a scale for the lady to weigh it and slap a barcode on it. Then you can check out at the main cash register. Yes, you must wait in that really long line before you wait in the other long line. Cameras in the market is a no. If you want to take pictures of dog meat, do it discreetly. I get my produce delivered from Shanghai Organics. (http://www.shorganic.com/home_en.html) Not incredibly overpriced and no humanure. Found a great French guy who does dairy deliveries in Shanghai. Just started the little business, but it looks like it's taking off He makes natural yogurt (10RMB a pop) and cream cheese that is delivered weekly. It's very good too after all the fried egg breakfasts. His website is still in its infancy but it does link to email: http://www.bebemamie.com Someone in the other thread had a good coffee hook-up. Import stores are odd. Keep visiting, because their wares change constantly.
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JimBobDole posted:From the files of "Things I wish people told me when I got here" for Shanghai: And maybe I've just been lucky but I haven't had a single fake note here, unlike previously when someone'd try it at least once a week. About that, apart from the texture and snap of the paper (which you won't have the feel for at first) what you're looking for is the silver strip and the raised bumpy patch on Mao's collar which you can find by rubbing your thumb over him. Just watch how the locals do it. Real notes also have their denomination written in UV ink--I find it handy to carry a tiny blacklight in my wallet for times when I'm too wasted to check by other means. Drunk foreigners are a favourite for taxi drivers to get rid of fake fiftys so watch out. That works both ways though so don't sweat if you do end up with fake notes, you'll eventually be able to pass them on drivers late at night. If they spot it they'll just shrug and hand it back to you and you can try again with someone else.
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Be Depressive posted:stuff about women Be Depressive is pretty spot on about the dating scene here. Marriages are more like business transactions so don't give up if the woman tells you she has a bf or husband. In my experience, fooling around isn't considered a big deal. In a lot of cases its considered normal and both sides fool around but just don't tell each other about it (duuuur) During parent teacher meetings at my last school, I would have some small talk to warm things up. The moms would always tell me that their husbands go out all night and come home at odd hours in the morning because of “business meetings.” Really? 6 times a week? Comes home piss drunk? He has two phones and you're not allowed to know anything about the second one? You guys have sex a couple times a month? That doesn't raise any red flags? Idk maybe its because I'm an abc and I ask hard hitting questions like “So how's everything at home?” but these women feel like they can tell me everything about their marriage...and they often do... By no means am I saying that you're doing the woman a favor by sleeping with her when her husband is away. Just don't expect the wife to divorce her husband for you! Arakan posted:So last time I went to China it was on a student visa, this time I need a work visa. Apparently I need to get a physical here and send the results to my employer, even though I'm going to have to do the same thing once I get to China for my residency permit. Does this sound right? Also, do any of you actually waste your doctor's time with it or should I just fill it out myself? You're gonna need to get a health check because its one of the requirements to get a Z visa. You're employer should be helping you set all of this up (and pay for it). Certain hospitals handle these kinds of examinations so its not like you can go to any hospital and do it. Its gonna be about 700rmb and the process will take about an hour. You'll get the results in a week. Also you need to bring a few documents with you: 4 passport size photos...and a few other things that escape me at the moment. Again your employer should be handling all of this for you, making the appointments, paying for it, and providing you with the necessary documents.
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I hate to say it, because of the vitriol with which it's discussed on various expat blogs/forums, but most mainland Chinese guys do not seem to be very good husbands/boyfriends. The standards are very low, however there's a certain amount of financial support involved which really doesn't happen in the west, so maybe the standards are just different. Also there are probably conflicting priorities - my impression is that men are pretty much required to drink and whore it up on a regular basis if they want to succeed in business/climb the corporate ladder. One of the more surreal things I've ever seen here was going to the bathroom in a really expensive restaurant to find it filled with Chinese businessmen sticking their fingers down their throats to induce vomiting so they can go back to the table and drink more bai jiu. Be Depressive fucked around with this message at May 26, 2011 around 04:32 |
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My girlfriend says it's totally ok if I cheat on her as long as she doesn't find out. I never had a girlfriend in the US that would have said something like that
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Mine says the same thing. I have mixed feelings about that.
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AfroNinja posted:You're gonna need to get a health check because its one of the requirements to get a Z visa. You're employer should be helping you set all of this up (and pay for it). Certain hospitals handle these kinds of examinations so its not like you can go to any hospital and do it. Its gonna be about 700rmb and the process will take about an hour. You'll get the results in a week. Also you need to bring a few documents with you: 4 passport size photos...and a few other things that escape me at the moment. Again your employer should be handling all of this for you, making the appointments, paying for it, and providing you with the necessary documents. I guess I should have been more clear. What I meant was I need to get a health check here in the USA, where I am now, and send it to my employer before they send me the paperwork I need to go to the consulate and apply for my Z visa. I'm familiar with doing the residency permit physical once I get to China since I've had to go through it before, it just seems weird that they want me to get a doctor to fill out a physical form in America just so I can get my 30 day Z visa or whatever that needs to be turned into a residency permit anyways. Unless doing this avoids me having to do the physical in China, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
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Anyone play in any home poker games in Shanghai? I'm interested in meeting people and playing cards. However I am not interested in underground casinos with shady people.
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Be Depressive posted:Also there are probably conflicting priorities - my impression is that men are pretty much required to drink and whore it up on a regular basis if they want to succeed in business/climb the corporate ladder. Note: I had to deal with this poo poo for 3 years as an underling in a very lovely Chinese company way back when. This was more than a "regular basis", typically 2-3 times per week. This is generally how I dealt with it all without losing face or having to give in to the whole thing. If you want to escape the whoring there are ways to do it.. yes, been there done that. When you get dragged to the KTV, pick the girl(s) who obviously don't want to be picked. They are newer and less whorey, they won't make eye contact in the line and they will usually stand slightly back in regards to the line... it's subtle but they do it. If no one is fitting that description, get the mamasan to swap the line for more girls... sting 2 will have newer recruits than string 1. If you want to make a show of it, pick 2 girls instead of 1. Proceed to drink absolutely everything in sight.. yes you will throw up, but oh well. Now fall asleep. Be sure to put a password on your cell phone because yes they will try and get your number and spy on you. As the girls are new, you can make it very clear to them that you don't want to do anything to them, they will get their money if they play along. It's rather win-win. Furthermore, remember that in all drinking games they play at the dinner table, there is only really one game and it's called "get the foreigner shitfaced". The deck is stacked going in and it aint in your favor. Target specific people who obviously can't handle their booze and knock them out early to avoid having to deal with them in the "around the world" situations. Absolutely refuse to match baijiu with the sprite drinkers... you will lose. When you start getting close to your limit, feel free to act. Wobbly glass, booze spilling down your face etc etc, also if you have a glass of water feel free to grab a straw and with some slight of hand you can slowly replace some of that booze with water and cheat (DONT GET CAUGHT). Lots of dice and card games as well that go with the drinking, learn them, by god learn them and learn strategy, your liver will thank you. All that being said, you really need to understand where you are in terms of level of intoxication at any given moment and how much more you can handle comfortably. End of the night. If you played your cards right, you are drunk off your rear end, but in far better shape than the rest of the crew. If the company is paying for your whoring, grab your girl(s) and hop into a taxi, drop them off wherever they want (remember they are happy to be getting paid a bit and not having to do anything... they are in on it). Go home, drink your water, go to sleep... fake whatever hangover everyone else has in the morning. If your overall strategy is working in your favor, it becomes apparent as you are being grouped in with bigger big shots at places that exclude the underlings and include friends of friends who you normally wouldn't expect to ever meet (ie. mob bosses, judges, high ranking cops, etc.). If on the off chance you work for a foreign company, you fortunately won't have to deal with any of this poo poo more likely than not. If you are getting together with the gf's family, you are gonna get drunk as well. Fortunately there is no whoring involved and the only thing they will do is judge you every single second. Get drunk enough to bullshit with relatives, not so drunk as to make an rear end out of yourself. Again, just my experiences, take from them what you will. I managed to climb the ladder without actually whoring or doing anything I would regret later. huhu posted:Anyone play in any home poker games in Shanghai? I'm interested in meeting people and playing cards. However I am not interested in underground casinos with shady people. Pro-PRC Laowai fucked around with this message at May 26, 2011 around 06:18 |
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Arakan posted:I guess I should have been more clear. What I meant was I need to get a health check here in the USA, where I am now, and send it to my employer before they send me the paperwork I need to go to the consulate and apply for my Z visa. I'm familiar with doing the residency permit physical once I get to China since I've had to go through it before, it just seems weird that they want me to get a doctor to fill out a physical form in America just so I can get my 30 day Z visa or whatever that needs to be turned into a residency permit anyways. Some employers want you do get one before you come over for insurance or something. If you come over and fail the health check (read: extremely hard to do. As long as you don't have polio or HIV or something...) they lose a ton of time and money they spent getting you over here. If your employer has already sent you the paperwork and letter of invitation you can just go ahead and get the z-visa, if not talk to them about it.
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Magna Kaser posted:Some employers want you do get one before you come over for insurance or something. If you come over and fail the health check (read: extremely hard to do. As long as you don't have polio or HIV or something...) they lose a ton of time and money they spent getting you over here. That makes sense I guess. And yea they are requiring me to do this before they send me the necessary documents to get the Z visa.
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MeramJert posted:My girlfriend says it's totally ok if I cheat on her as long as she doesn't find out. I never had a girlfriend in the US that would have said something like that Yeah I hear this a lot too. What you don't know can't hurt you, right? Also to add to the App section of the FAQ: http://www.whatsapp.com/ This works for both iPhones and Androids. Its a great instant messenger that I use to chat with my parents in the US and other family members around the world. You can have group chats, send pictures, send short videos, and exchange contacts. Its free for the first year but by the time the trial runs out, I'm sure something else will come along. As long as you have 3G to connect to the internet, you can use it. I also use it to chat to my friends here in Shanghai. Texts are extremely cheap but a penny saved is a penny earned! AfroNinja fucked around with this message at May 26, 2011 around 09:59 |
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I have a pretty specific question: I'm moving to Beijing in august and I'd like to have a housekeeper/Aiyi to clean up and make meals a few times a week. What is the going rate, usually? Do Beijing goons have any recommendations? What is the protocol for giving her a key so she can do her thing while I'm at work? Worth the chance?
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:
This is excellent advice, I've definitely been in similar situations. My problem is that I absolutely hate drinking games, so I am usually drinking concurrently and end up getting shitfaced. I guess when you are drinking without being forced to it doesn't really give you any face. Also, when a foreigner buys 20 bottles of Moet at a club, or some jumbo bottle of Cognac that needs its own pouring stand- they don't really get face from it like a Chinese man would. I find it such an incredible waste of money, even if you can afford it. Most of the wealthy foreigners I know just end up splitting a small table and a few bottles of whiskey with friends. It also seems that wealthier Chinese men participate in this sort of machismo drinking culture more. When I went drinking with my building's guards they were in no way trying to out-do each other and were generally much more enjoyable to drink with. For the most part, though, foreigners can handle their liquor better than Chinese dudes. If I had a kuai for every time a Chinese guy puts his arm around me and spits saliva in my ear about some nonsense while simultaneously trying to offer me cigarettes, I could buy an e-bike. Whenever you go to a bathroom in a KTV or Nightclub, it is always full of people vomiting in sinks, toilets and garbage cans. I know that's common in most areas of the world, but not to that extent.
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MeramJert posted:My girlfriend says it's totally ok if I cheat on her as long as she doesn't find out. I never had a girlfriend in the US that would have said something like that On the opposite end, my then-girlfriend in the US said that to me when I was going to China for a semester. I was pretty  and fairly offended, although it was more of a self-esteem thing with her (she got better) than a cultural "boys will be boys". In Thailand it's similar to what some of you describe in China; in a lot of relationships/marriages the woman assumes the man will cheat, she just doesn't want her nose rubbed in it, especially publicly. The other extreme is girls who are not cool with it and obsessed with the idea that their partner will cheat, so they go through the guy's mobile phone and interrogate them about any female acquaintance or free time outside of work that they're not at home, to "show that they care". You get both in Western countries as well, but it's far less common and nobody would describe either type of relationship as healthy or normal. Not that I'd cheat anyways, but I gotta say it was pretty easy not to be tempted in Bejing; Chinese girls mostly came off as creepily naive (if otherwise nice people) to me. Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Note: I had to deal with this poo poo for 3 years as an underling in a very lovely Chinese company way back when. This was more than a "regular basis", typically 2-3 times per week. This is generally how I dealt with it all without losing face or having to give in to the whole thing. This is  , and I guess why my Chinese friends wouldn't let me get into a drinking contest with the Chinese businessmen on the train back from Qinghai. I still should have anyways, sigh.
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"In the technology, Shanghai Trading company should improve the size of clothes. Because the measurements are different between different countries. Chinese measurement is centimeter, and the European measurement is inch. Because of the western are stronger than Chinese, the clothes version should be fatter. In the law, the quality of clothes must be high. The label should use the language of target country and contain the shell fabric, washing methods, if it can direct contact with the skin, if its formaldehyde content is standard. And according to the case, its prices are viewed as highly competitive averaging 25% below European competitors. It has a price advantage. But it could lead to price discrimination and dumping. So Shanghai Trading company should not lowered the price so much." One of my friends asked me to correct her paper and this masterpiece came out of it. My favorite part is where it says the label on a piece of clothing should indicate whether or not it can touch the skin.
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huhu posted:Anyone play in any home poker games in Shanghai? I'm interested in meeting people and playing cards. However I am not interested in underground casinos with shady people. We play at my place near Yi Shan Lu a couple times a month...in fact we're having a game tomorrow but I don't think there are any spots left. We try to limit the game to 7 people, but if someone cancels out last minute we might be able to get you in. Nothing too high stakes, usually 200RMB buy in Hold 'em. Hit me up at joshua_sbb on skype and I'll let you know when we are playing.
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Cuatal posted:chinglish I dunno, this sounds pretty good compared to the poo poo I have to read. And I work at a college that uses English in instruction!
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